Trump IMPEACHED by the US House; US Senate Trial Allows No New Witnesses & Acquits Trump
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looking at it from just a political standpoint i'm curious as to why so many people frame this whole impeachment thing (or even just all the investigations into trump as a whole) purely through the republican lens. everything that happens segues into "it'll only help trump!" "impeachment is GOOD for him!" "it'll only energize his base!"...shyt like that.
yeah, the GOP, the right-wing voters, the republicans, they're now the trump party. no fukking shyt. they're gonna ride or die for him. it's been well established that they're all in for cheetoh, with or without the "witch-hunt". who gives a shyt? those aren't the people you're trying to reach anyways.
yeah, the GOP, the right-wing voters, the republicans, they're now the trump party. no fukking shyt. they're gonna ride or die for him. it's been well established that they're all in for cheetoh, with or without the "witch-hunt". who gives a shyt? those aren't the people you're trying to reach anyways.
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The easy counter to this is for Dems to say, "if this is about Biden corruption, then legally you should have left that to the Justice Department to handle. It is illegal to ask foreign countries to investigate political rivals at the sitting president. Thanks for the confession."
Yes I would expect his numbers to immediately dip...some at least. That is how this works. Extremely negative or positive news usually has some appreciable effect on polls immediately.
Do you see what he is getting away with right now???
None of this shyt is even moving the needle. Hasn’t dropped in the polls, turned out to be a fundraising gold mine, and hasn’t lost one Republican. bytch McConnell is already getting more emboldened talking about they’re gonna kill the impeachment if the House votes for it. He’s fundraising off it!
Over time Trump’s position will improve politically imo. He’s gonna muddy up the waters with bothsides-ism about the Ukraine thing and keep saying it wasn’t political, it was about the corruption of the Bidens and he’s fulfilling his promise to drain the swamp and dumb ass low information voters won’t be able to tell the difference.
Then impeachment will get voted down in the Senate and it will be a political W for him.
Both sidism only works if one side isn't willing to play. Dems can throw Biden to the wolves to go after Trump and say "look where all the evidence is." Basically they have to argue the case so that anyone not being willingly ignorant to the facts will understand that he has to go. They have to put the Senate in that uncomfortable position of hoping voting not to impeach in the face of clear facts will not hurt them
It easier to go after pence first with a criminal indictment.. The office of the VP doesn’t protect him..
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1st bolded: No one that doesn’t already give a fukk is gonna start giving a fukk imo. That’s an argument about about constitutional law, executive powers, and the impartiality of the Justice Department and only 25% of Americans can name the 3 branches of government.
2nd bolded: It won’t ever hurt them imo. He hasn’t lost any significant Republican support, nor will he. If they vote to impeach they’ll get primaried...and lose.
The Biden Ukraine thing is some shyt that probably falls under standard accepted Washington corruption.
A large part of the evil genius of Trump is he exists as an indictment of the system that is deeply unpopular and deeply corrupt, so any time his corruption is pointed out, he can always say the Democrats are corrupt too and it doesn’t matter even if Trump’s corruption is 100x worse. People just see corruption as corruption and no one who isn’t firmly in team D or team R will be enthusiastic about impeachment one way or the other imo.
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Trump is being fukked in real time and no one realizes it.
FYI...
Former House Speaker Paul Ryan reportedly wants to use his position on Fox's board to 'do something' about Trump
oh word? That’s good enough for you?
JMurder
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It isn't about whether people care, it's about making the counterargument that is easily understandable (doesn't take too many words to explain) to make the original argument look stupid. Yeah, there are people that will be unmoved but there are people when backed into the position of supporting corruption will have to support impeachment. That's the demographic that Dems have to make the case for so that if he doesn't get removed from office, it doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.
Your last point about corruption is why I stated that the Dems might have to throw Biden to the wolves because it makes their position stronger when it comes to impeachment. It's what they did with Al Franken when these suspected rapists were running for election, and they won some elections as the party who was against suspected predators.
We have to remember that even more than looking right that people don't like to look stupid. If Dems play this right they can back a good amount of people into supporting impeachment even if they don't want to impeach Trump
We've someone shifted from, "Look, we need to replace Pelosi with progressive leadership. She won't even impeach Trump!! 
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To
"I don't know why dems are wasting their time with impeachment. The Republicans aren't going to vote to convict.
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"To
"I don't know why dems are wasting their time with impeachment. The Republicans aren't going to vote to convict.
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2nd whistleblower comes forward after speaking with IG: Attorney
Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarmon President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and triggered an impeachment inquiry, tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.
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Zaid tells ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos that the second person -- also described as an intelligence official -- has first-hand knowledge of some of the allegations outlined in the original complaint and has been interviewed by the head of the intelligence community's internal watchdog office, Michael Atkinson.
The existence of a second whistleblower -- particularly one who can speak directly about events involving the president related to conversations involving Ukraine -- could undercut Trump's repeated insistence that the original complaint, released on Sept. 26, was "totally inaccurate."
That original seven-page complaint alleged that Trump pushed a foreign power to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and Biden's son, Hunter, and that unnamed senior White House officials then tried to "lock down" all records of the phone call.
"This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call," the first whistleblower stated, in a complaint filed Aug. 12.
Zaid says both officials have full protection of the law intended to protect whistleblowers from being fired in retaliation. While this second official has spoken with the IG -- the internal watchdog office created to handle complaints -- this person has not communicated yet with the congressional committees conducting the investigation.
The New York Times on Friday cited anonymous sources in reporting that a second intelligence official was weighing whether to file his own former complaint and testify to Congress. Zaid says he does not know if the second whistleblower he represents is the person identified in the Times report.
According to the first whistleblower, more than a half a dozen U.S. officials have information relevant to the investigation -- suggesting the probe could widen even further.
A transcript released by the White House of Trump's July 25 call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy showed Trump asking a "favor" of the foreign leader and pushing him to launch an investigation into the Biden family. Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukraine energy company while his father Vice President Biden led policy on Ukraine during the Obama administration, leading some to question whether there was a conflict of interest or impropriety.
"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son," Trump told Zelenskiy at one point, offering the assistance of his attorney general. He later adds "a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great."
Text messages later obtained by Congress showed top U.S. diplomats dangling the possibility of a summit of the two leaders in Washington on the condition that Ukraine agrees to announce an investigation. The Ukraine government never did. The text messages were provided in congressional testimony last week by one of the diplomats, Kurt Volker, who has since resigned.
It is illegal for anyone to receive something of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election, according to the Federal Election Commission. While it is not immediately clear whether Trump or other U.S. officials broke the law in its handling of Ukraine, that might not matter. The Constitution allows for Congress to decide what constitutes an impeachable offense.
Trump has denied any wrongdoing, calling the phone call "perfect."
"Like every American, I deserve to meet my accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called "Whistleblower," represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way," Trump tweeted Sept. 29.
The White House had no comment.
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2nd whistleblower comes forward after speaking with IG: Attorney
Mark Zaid, the attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarmon President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and triggered an impeachment inquiry, tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.
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Zaid tells ABC News' Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos that the second person -- also described as an intelligence official -- has first-hand knowledge of some of the allegations outlined in the original complaint and has been interviewed by the head of the intelligence community's internal watchdog office, Michael Atkinson.
The existence of a second whistleblower -- particularly one who can speak directly about events involving the president related to conversations involving Ukraine -- could undercut Trump's repeated insistence that the original complaint, released on Sept. 26, was "totally inaccurate."
That original seven-page complaint alleged that Trump pushed a foreign power to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, and Biden's son, Hunter, and that unnamed senior White House officials then tried to "lock down" all records of the phone call.
"This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call," the first whistleblower stated, in a complaint filed Aug. 12.
Zaid says both officials have full protection of the law intended to protect whistleblowers from being fired in retaliation. While this second official has spoken with the IG -- the internal watchdog office created to handle complaints -- this person has not communicated yet with the congressional committees conducting the investigation.
The New York Times on Friday cited anonymous sources in reporting that a second intelligence official was weighing whether to file his own former complaint and testify to Congress. Zaid says he does not know if the second whistleblower he represents is the person identified in the Times report.
According to the first whistleblower, more than a half a dozen U.S. officials have information relevant to the investigation -- suggesting the probe could widen even further.
A transcript released by the White House of Trump's July 25 call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy showed Trump asking a "favor" of the foreign leader and pushing him to launch an investigation into the Biden family. Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukraine energy company while his father Vice President Biden led policy on Ukraine during the Obama administration, leading some to question whether there was a conflict of interest or impropriety.
"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son," Trump told Zelenskiy at one point, offering the assistance of his attorney general. He later adds "a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great."
Text messages later obtained by Congress showed top U.S. diplomats dangling the possibility of a summit of the two leaders in Washington on the condition that Ukraine agrees to announce an investigation. The Ukraine government never did. The text messages were provided in congressional testimony last week by one of the diplomats, Kurt Volker, who has since resigned.
It is illegal for anyone to receive something of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election, according to the Federal Election Commission. While it is not immediately clear whether Trump or other U.S. officials broke the law in its handling of Ukraine, that might not matter. The Constitution allows for Congress to decide what constitutes an impeachable offense.
Trump has denied any wrongdoing, calling the phone call "perfect."
"Like every American, I deserve to meet my accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called "Whistleblower," represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way," Trump tweeted Sept. 29.
The White House had no comment.
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