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dangerranger said:
I want to analyze what you said because what you’re saying is not that uncommon. So you benefited an extra thousand or two in your pocket. If you got an extra 2000 per year, that amounts to a small amount of about $83-$167 a month. So this is your example of a great economy? $167 a month. People spend that much on groceries for their families a month, heck they spend more.

This is why I didn’t understand the praise Trump got with the tax cuts. So b/c you got a extra $1000 or $2000 back in tax returns which again breaks down to $167 a month this is the greatest thing for you and the economy. How? The cost of living and gas eats away at that. But all you have to do is throw what some people seem as a large number amount and all is forgiven. Again, its only $167 a month extra which if you pay bills its not doing much.

Unemployment is at a 50 year low. Do you include how many of those jobs are part time jobs that people have to get. Do you know how many people, I know many, who have to work multiple jobs to make ends meet? This is your unemployment at a 50 year low? Numbers matters, but context matters even more. That’s what’s missing in most of these mainstream political discussions. Context.

Anyone can throw out a statistic but what it means in the grand scheme of things is more important. This is why people get led astray because they feel smart just knowing numbers. The economy is doing great for who? The lower class and middle class? Where? I’ve always been fascinated by lower income people talking about the economy is doing great but their circumstances aren’t changing.

Yeah people who own businesses and people who own stocks, that makes sense. But every day folks who worry when the price of gas goes up, stagnant wages, hell the price of everything increasing. I can’t help but ask what the hell are you talking about.
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That is for real. 2k per year is nothing.
 
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Wild self said:
That is for real. 2k per year is nothing.
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:mjlol: thats two free months of rent for me. that's not "nothing"


I mean i know im not allowed to appreciate more money in my bank from a tax cut because donald trump did it, but it's gonna be a hard argument for you to make swing state voters :yeshrug:
 
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re: tax cuts.

your take home pay may have been more, but many tax refunds were less and some people actually had to pay taxes when they never had to pay before. it's like the extra money you got during the year had to be put into savings just to give it back at tax time. people forgot about how rethugs made fun of middle incomers who were mad and didn't understand why their tax refund was smaller or why they had to pay. all while rich people were basking in their comparatively larger tax cut than anyone else got.

i can't give chump credit for the economy. he actually stifled growth and increased domestic costs with his china trade war tactics. obama had everything set up so well that the economy was able to weather chump's stupidity. now when chump leaves office another dem is going to be left with shambles to fix just like bush did obama.
 
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bzb said:
re: tax cuts.

your take home pay may have been more, but many tax refunds were less and some people actually had to pay taxes when they never had to pay before. it's like the extra money you got during the year had to be put into savings just to give it back at tax time. people forgot about how rethugs made fun of middle incomers who were mad and didn't understand why their tax refund was smaller or why they had to pay. all while rich people were basking in their comparatively larger tax cut than anyone else got.

i can't give chump credit for the economy. he actually stifled growth and increased domestic costs with his china trade war tactics. obama had everything set up so well that the economy was able to weather chump's stupidity. now when chump leaves office another dem is going to be left with shambles to fix just like bush did obama.
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Exactly. In the end somehow someway, we the people end up paying that extra money we get back but the rich don’t. The economy and the laws are skewed to their benefit but we are supposed to be happy with an extra 1-2k. The problem is most people don’t see how they are being played. I’ll never understand how democrats in Congress have been saddled with the label of being corrupt and only for the wealthy. The republicans are just as guilty but some how have managed to convince the poorest people that somehow they are their champions while robbing them in plain sight.
 
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