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[Tribaligenesis]

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are you trying to imply that no one in america benefited from the tax cuts and cutting regulations on small businesses?

i personally benefited he put another thousand or two in my pocket. im just some average motherfukker who works in an office.i bet a ton of people in here did too, ive only seen one poster admit it because it's not cool to do

and again, unemployment is at a 50 year low. you cant argue with shyt like that just because trump is in office

2019 deficit nears $1 trillion, highest since 2012: Treasury

Yeah that's all well and good but those tax cuts have made the deficit soar to quite frankly ridiculous levels. The inevitable downturn , might actually turn into a bonafide depression.

 

[Outlaw]

are you trying to imply that no one in america benefited from the tax cuts and cutting regulations on small businesses?

i personally benefited he put another thousand or two in my pocket. im just some average motherfukker who works in an office.i bet a ton of people in here did too, ive only seen one poster admit it because it's not cool to do

and again, unemployment is at a 50 year low. you cant argue with shyt like that just because trump is in office

its the classic do a deal with the devil. Sure the economy from certain points of view is doing good but is the couple thousand of dollars as you put it enough for America to sell its soul and dip into fascism?

 

[the cac mamba]

its the classic do a deal with the devil. Sure the economy from certain points of view is doing good but is the couple thousand of dollars as you put it enough for America to sell its soul and dip into fascism?

no, that's why im not voting for that fukkin piece of shyt

but i can already tell that you guys are deluding yourselves about how people feel about the economy. trump is gonna stand on the debate stage and say "record low unemployment, record high stock market, you dont have a plan to beat that", and the middle of the country is gonna say "you know what, he's right. im doing as well or better today than i was under the last democrat president"

 

[the cac mamba]

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2019 deficit nears $1 trillion, highest since 2012: Treasury

Yeah that's all well and good but those tax cuts have made the deficit soar to quite frankly ridiculous levels. The inevitable downturn , might actually turn into a bonafide depression.

Fiscal Year Revenue
FY 2020 $3.64 trillion
FY 2019 $3.44 trillion
FY 2018 $3.33 trillion
FY 2017 $3.32 trillion
FY 2016 $3.27 trillion
FY 2015 $3.25 trillion
FY 2014 $3.02 trillion
FY 2013 $2.77 trillion
FY 2012 $2.45 trillion
FY 2011 $2.30 trillion


this is how much revenue the government has made its not like the tax cut took it down negatively. they need to cut spending

and for the record, fukk the tax cut. i wasnt a fan of it, and they can rip it up tomorrow for all i care

 

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[3rdLetter]

Trump lambastes his critics as he moves to target perceived enemies over impeachment — The Washington Post

Trump is retaliating against Vindman now

Remember when Schiff said this would happen and Murkowski/Collins were offended?

 

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Remember when Schiff said this would happen and Murkowski/Collins were offended?

Pepperidge Farms remembers...

 

[dangerranger]

are you trying to imply that no one in america benefited from the tax cuts and cutting regulations on small businesses?

i personally benefited he put another thousand or two in my pocket. im just some average motherfukker who works in an office.i bet a ton of people in here did too, ive only seen one poster admit it because it's not cool to do

and again, unemployment is at a 50 year low. you cant argue with shyt like that just because trump is in office

I want to analyze what you said because what you’re saying is not that uncommon. So you benefited an extra thousand or two in your pocket. If you got an extra 2000 per year, that amounts to a small amount of about $83-$167 a month. So this is your example of a great economy? $167 a month. People spend that much on groceries for their families a month, heck they spend more.

This is why I didn’t understand the praise Trump got with the tax cuts. So b/c you got a extra $1000 or $2000 back in tax returns which again breaks down to $167 a month this is the greatest thing for you and the economy. How? The cost of living and gas eats away at that. But all you have to do is throw what some people seem as a large number amount and all is forgiven. Again, its only $167 a month extra which if you pay bills its not doing much.

Unemployment is at a 50 year low. Do you include how many of those jobs are part time jobs that people have to get. Do you know how many people, I know many, who have to work multiple jobs to make ends meet? This is your unemployment at a 50 year low? Numbers matters, but context matters even more. That’s what’s missing in most of these mainstream political discussions. Context.

Anyone can throw out a statistic but what it means in the grand scheme of things is more important. This is why people get led astray because they feel smart just knowing numbers. The economy is doing great for who? The lower class and middle class? Where? I’ve always been fascinated by lower income people talking about the economy is doing great but their circumstances aren’t changing.

Yeah people who own businesses and people who own stocks, that makes sense. But every day folks who worry when the price of gas goes up, stagnant wages, hell the price of everything increasing. I can’t help but ask what the hell are you talking about.

 

[the cac mamba]

I want to analyze what you said because what you’re saying is not that uncommon. So you benefited an extra thousand or two in your pocket. If you got an extra 2000 per year, that amounts to a small amount of about $83-$167 a month. So this is your example of a great economy? $167 a month. People spend that much on groceries for their families a month, heck they spend more.

This is why I didn’t understand the praise Trump got with the tax cuts. So b/c you got a extra $1000 or $2000 back in tax returns which again breaks down to $167 a month this is the greatest thing for you and the economy. How? The cost of living and gas eats away at that. But all you have to do is throw what some people seem as a large number amount and all is forgiven. Again, its only $167 a month extra which if you pay bills its not doing much.
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"vote democrat because everyone is living paycheck to paycheck" "who cares about an extra 150 a month"

sounding kinda disingenuous there, breh

 

[dangerranger]

In today's era, truth has been subverted in a way that it's mostly opinions. People believe what they want, that's why you hear people says it's my truth. No it's your opinion.
Democrats if they want to win they have to unfortunately play to this idea. They have to make what Trump does/did connect to people's truth. Their subjective truths. People don't see the big picture, so you have to make them see the little ones.

 

[dangerranger]

"vote democrat because everyone is living paycheck to paycheck" "who cares about an extra 150 a month"

sounding kinda disingenuous there, breh

No it's not disingenuous because it is only $150 a month. This is not an indication of a strong economy. It's an indication that you get a measly amount of money to placate you into not recognizing the cost of living will snatch that away in a heartbeat. It does nothing to improve your quality of life or change your circumstances for overall good. This is not to say an extra $150 a month isn't nice. But it's a nice feeling, it doesn't move the needle.

 

[the cac mamba]

No it's not disingenuous because it is only $150 a month. This is not an indication of a strong economy. It's an indication that you get a measly amount of money to placate you into not recognizing the cost of living will snatch that away in a heartbeat. It does nothing to improve your quality of life or change your circumstances for overall good. This is not to say an extra $150 a month isn't nice. But it's a nice feeling, it doesn't move the needle.

i guess to understand where you're coming from, i have to know who you're voting for and what this plan is of theirs that will create another 500 dollars a month in income for me or whatever you feel i deserve, since 150 isn't enough

 

[dangerranger]

i guess to understand where you're coming from, i have to know who you're voting for and what this plan is of theirs that will create another 500 dollars a month in income for me or whatever you feel i deserve, since 150 isn't enough

Honestly, I'm not sure who I'm voting for as of yet on the democratic side. I would not vote republican because they don't have policies that I believe benefit my people. Going beyond that my point is if the collective of society isn't benefitting from a so called great economy how can it be great. Who is determining this definition of great, Fox News? The President? People who have vested interest in convincing people it's great?

What these people are saying isn't matching up to reality and that's the fundamental problem. While you are being awarded a few extra pennies a month ($150), the guys at the top and corporations who are receiving tax cuts are receiving millions and billions of dollars (1,000,000 and 1,000, 000,000) and the hope is that that money will in turn trickle down to the masses. I wrote out the number amount so that the contrast is apparent. It suggests something is wrong with how wealth is distributed. It suggests something is wrong about those saying the economy is doing well for everyone and we should all be celebrating. It doesn't suggest, it means they are lying.

 

[Blackfyre]

@GeoffRBennett
NEWS via LTC Vindman’s atty: “Today, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman was escorted out of the White House where he has dutifully served his country and his President. He does so having spoken publicly once, and only pursuant to a subpoena from the United States Congress.”
15:48 - 7 Feb 2020

 

[the cac mamba]

Honestly, I'm not sure who I'm voting for as of yet on the democratic side. I would not vote republican because they don't have policies that I believe benefit my people. Going beyond that my point is if the collective of society isn't benefitting from a so called great economy how can it be great. Who is determining this definition of great, Fox News? The President? People who have vested interest in convincing people it's great?

What these people are saying isn't matching up to reality and that's the fundamental problem. While you are being awarded a few extra pennies a month ($150), the guys at the top and corporations who are receiving tax cuts are receiving millions and billions of dollars (1,000,000 and 1,000, 000,000) and the hope is that that money will in turn trickle down to the masses. I wrote out the number amount so that the contrast is apparent. It suggests something is wrong with how wealth is distributed. It suggests something is wrong about those saying the economy is doing well for everyone and we should all be celebrating. It doesn't suggest, it means they are lying.

the problem with what you're saying is that when you cut taxes, on the rich or whoever, they arent being "given" anything. they're keeping more of their own money we can have an argument about how much they should keep, and how much you want to redistribute, and i'd probably mostly agree with you

im not voting for trump, im voting for whoever the democrat is. all i said was that i didnt mind the tax cut, and im sure a lot of people in america didn't either. i don't think that's an incorrect statement