Trump Border Chief threatens to jail Colorado Mayor if he doesn't let ICC round up immigrants

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Denver mayor’s resolve to go to jail for resisting deportation orders wilts

Story by Jack Birle, Washington Examiner 10 hours ago

"Denver Mayor Mike Johnston dodged a response to President-elect Donald Trump’s “border czar,” Tom Homan saying he would jail the mayor if he does not comply with federal deportation orders of illegal immigrants.

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Denver mayor’s resolve to go to jail for resisting deportation orders wilts

Johnston, a Democrat, has been one of a few officials who have picked a fight with Homan over the incoming Trump administration's plans for mass deportations. The Denver mayor was asked directly about if he would go to jail to block some deportations on CNN's Erin Burnett Outfront Tuesday, to which he instead said that he would work with the administration on deporting violent criminals."


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The bolded is false according to studies that have been given to Congress. I have posted multiple studies on this forum that prove the bolded is false.
I can't stand that dumbass argument. When I was in college I pitched boxes in a warehouse during the summer and made way more than minimum wage. That distribution center is worked by illegal immigrants now.

I went to school at a midwest rural college. White kids who didn't have a lot of money would work the wheat harvest in the summer and stack enough to pay tuition and rent for a whole year. Same thing, all those jobs are worked by illegal immigrants now getting paid under the table.

About 15-20 years go NPR had a story on how if you paid farm workers a decent wage with benefits food prices would only go up 5% becuase that's how much middle men are eating off the distribution chain.
 

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Black people never stopped doing those city or government jobs though :huh:

Half my fam work for CTA alone which is union. Do you have any numbers showcasing these jobs are not being pursued by black people? My anecdotal reality is in direct opposition to this, so if I can see some numbers Ill concede the point :manny:
i'm not looking to make you concede any points man.

all i can go by is what my own eyes see, and what i hear talking to Black people still in the trades. we're still represented in transportation, but when i was younger i remember Blacks doing construction, etc. now all you see is mexicans.
 

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i'm not looking to make you concede any points man.

all i can go by is what my own eyes see, and what i hear talking to Black people still in the trades. we're still represented in transportation, but when i was younger i remember Blacks doing construction, etc. now all you see is mexicans.

I worded that badly I aint trying to argue with you just wanted to see some studies or w/e on it
 

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Oh, so the actual congressional studies and reports of people filling in those positions when ICE removed the illegals were people out of touch with reality? How about our people complaining about it in Chicago, New York, and other areas. I guess they are also out of touch with reality?

But Wait! You feel a person who is above those class levels of low to no skill labor with-in the Black community should not care about how a political policy affects those in the lower classes? So by virtue of your position of not caring about those classes below you, because I assume you are in the middle class, would not you be the one who is really out of touch with reality as it pertains to their lives? I mean you don't care enough to even listen to them or even read the reports about the issue, so that means you are ignorant of what work they are willing to do.

“I work behind a desk”- in a nutshell
 

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I'm trying to be cordial here but you being a goofy my guy.

how many ways do I have to say "I don't support illegal immigration, but if they get here they here. If they productive and don't get caught whatever, if they get caught and sent back. whatever. it doesn't matter to me. Send them all back to Mexico tomorrow, see the country implode. it will be cinema tbh. They not my biggest enemy, racist cacs are and c00ns are."

what policy am I supporting?

up them studies too you keep bringing up. I'm trying to see where you coming from.

He’s a argue for the sake of arguing type

Do not engage outside of speaking your piece and reiterating what you previous stance is.
 
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The bolded is false according to studies that have been given to Congress. I have posted multiple studies on this forum that prove the bolded is false.
It's not false, though.


Studies and reports also show that domestic workers are generally less willing to take on the physically demanding and low-wage jobs, especially in sectors like agriculture and food processing.

Here's a survey of farmworker shortages in the US that found that there was a significant decline in the number of domestic workers willing to work in agriculture, which led to an increasing reliance on immigrant labor. Between 2002 and 2014, the U.S. lost over 146,000 farmworkers, and only about 2.7% of that gap was filled by domestic workers. The gap has only widened since:



A study by the Economic Policy Institute highlights that even when employers attempted to hire domestic workers for agricultural roles, they often found a lack of interest in such labor-intensive work:



And in some instances, domestic workers did apply for these positions, but many left shortly after due to the grueling nature of the work:



This pattern is not limited to agriculture, either. It also extends to other physically demanding industries like meat processing. These sectors rely heavily on migrant workers because native workers are often reluctant to take on jobs with long hours, poor conditions, and relatively low pay. I am not arguing for this to continue. I am only highlighting that this is the reality we live in. And that we can't ignore it, if we want to fix it. Remember the story about the chicken processing plants in the south hiring more domestic workers after a migrant crackdown? Well, it was reported soon after that most had quit, because of the grueling work, even though the pay was good.


I think to make those jobs more attractive to domestic workers, it would require a comprehensive approach that tackles several key issues. First, increasing wages is essential, but it should also be accompanied by improved working conditions, including better safety measures, tools, and regular breaks to reduce physical strain. Offering comprehensive benefits like healthcare, paid time off, and retirement plans can also help make these jobs more sustainable for long-term domestic workers. Incorporating *some* automation and assistive technology can be used to reduce the physical demands of these roles as well.

I know this might not seem serious, but fostering a positive image of this work and breaking the stigma that it's "low-class" is crucial for long-term retention too. Changing the public perception of these jobs through education and media campaigns can help combat the stigma that makes them unattractive. This might seem unimportant, but it matters, especially given how vain most Americans are. Improving infrastructure in rural areas where these jobs are located can also help attract workers from urban areas too. All these efforts together can create a more sustainable workforce and reduce reliance on migrant labor. Do Americans have the will to do all this? And accept paying a little more for things? I am.
 

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It's not false, though.


Studies and reports also show that domestic workers are generally less willing to take on the physically demanding and low-wage jobs, especially in sectors like agriculture and food processing.

Here's a survey of farmworker shortages in the US that found that there was a significant decline in the number of domestic workers willing to work in agriculture, which led to an increasing reliance on immigrant labor. Between 2002 and 2014, the U.S. lost over 146,000 farmworkers, and only about 2.7% of that gap was filled by domestic workers. The gap has only widened since:



A study by the Economic Policy Institute highlights that even when employers attempted to hire domestic workers for agricultural roles, they often found a lack of interest in such labor-intensive work:



And in some instances, domestic workers did apply for these positions, but many left shortly after due to the grueling nature of the work:



This pattern is not limited to agriculture, either. It also extends to other physically demanding industries like meat processing. These sectors rely heavily on migrant workers because native workers are often reluctant to take on jobs with long hours, poor conditions, and relatively low pay. I am not arguing for this to continue. I am only highlighting that this is the reality we live in. And that we can't ignore it, if we want to fix it. Remember the story about the chicken processing plants in the south hiring more domestic workers after a migrant crackdown? Well, it was reported soon after that most had quit, because of the grueling work, even though the pay was good.


I think to make those jobs more attractive to domestic workers, it would require a comprehensive approach that tackles several key issues. First, increasing wages is essential, but it should also be accompanied by improved working conditions, including better safety measures, tools, and regular breaks to reduce physical strain. Offering comprehensive benefits like healthcare, paid time off, and retirement plans can also help make these jobs more sustainable for long-term domestic workers. Incorporating *some* automation and assistive technology can be used to reduce the physical demands of these roles as well.

I know this might not seem serious, but fostering a positive image of this work and breaking the stigma that it's "low-class" is crucial for long-term retention too. Changing the public perception of these jobs through education and media campaigns can help combat the stigma that makes them unattractive. This might seem unimportant, but it matters, especially given how vain most Americans are. Improving infrastructure in rural areas where these jobs are located can also help attract workers from urban areas too. All these efforts together can create a more sustainable workforce and reduce reliance on migrant labor. Do Americans have the will to do all this? And accept paying a little more for things? I am.

Man. Please say it again for these doofuses. Motherfukkers talking turkey to a squirrel in this bytch.
 

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People always try to act like illegals only work in agriculture. Around here, they heavy in construction and don't let one of them in management. It's bilingual only going forward.

Call me racist but i seen whole black cities get turned Hispanic.
Imagine Going to a PTA meeting and they have to have a separate Spanish translation.
 
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