Trump about to deport 21 Savage, ICE arrest him, says he’s in the US illegally

[Atlrocafella]

They tryna set him up to either take the fall for the gun or snitch on his homeboy.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

They tryna set him up to either take the fall for the gun or snitch on his homeboy.

They targeted him for that in the 1st place. Ever since TMZ showed him with that thang out he probably been on they radar.

Edit: apparently its legal to have a loaded firearm in your position on or in your property in GA and this includes vehicles. I think he's ok on the gun thing if its registered to him and he owns that vehicle.

 

[hex]

You don't know what the fukk you're talking about.

And regardless of whether or not it's "snitching" it has never been acceptable to cooperate with police if you're a street dude. Period.

I ain't even trying to go back and forth with you because, like half the thread, you're in full blown stan mode. If 21 Savage works with police to secure his U-Visa (or for any reason) he needs to start rapping like De La Soul.

Fred.

 

[hex]

Speaking of De La Soul, one of the most bizarre spins of this situation is "21 Savage spit a couple conscious bars, they're deporting him because of that."

I ain't NEVER seen a 21 Savage fan/stan on this site praise conscious rappers, cut the bullshyt out. Dude had a couple bars about immigration and Flint and people act like he's a Native Tongues affiliate.

Fred.

 

[LunaticVillage415]

To everybody saying 21 not from Britain... consider the fact that Slick Rick came to America at the exact same age as 21. And Slick Rick was British as fukk. I'm talking about Kangols and Wallabee Clarks, bad teeth, heavy English accent and wearing suits everyday British. Slick Rick ain't wear Adidas tracksuits and shell toes like the prototypical 80's black New Yorker. Slick Rick could have been a straight up Londoner if you didn't know he came up outta NYC. How can your discount your entire fukking childhood as being nonexistent and completely not noteworthy? Hella black kids born and raised in the hood scarred for life before they hit 13. If you know anything about psychology is that your childhood has a profound effect on how you view the world. Look at Michael Jackson, he was permanently fukked up because he was denied a normal childhood before he was 13. If Michael Jackson had 21 Savage childhood, he would have been a normal well adjusted individual.

What is more disgusting is 21 stans, who mostly sound like white kids from the suburbs, acting like being a thug in ATL is something to be fukking proud of. I'm old school and don't even respect Bloods and Crips from outside of Cali being from the Bay and 30+. At least Bloods and Crips in Cali were originally formed to fight off white racist mobs and restore the community. 21 was no Robert Yummy Sandifer who was forced into the street life because his mom was on dope and he was hungry because he was staying at his grandma house with thirty other broke ass kids.

 

[Pure Water]

To everybody saying 21 not from Britain... consider the fact that Slick Rick came to America at the exact same age as 21. And Slick Rick was British as fukk. I'm talking about Kangols and Wallabee Clarks, bad teeth, heavy English accent and wearing suits everyday British. Slick Rick ain't wear Adidas tracksuits and shell toes like the prototypical 80's black New Yorker. Slick Rick could have been a straight up Londoner if you didn't know he came up outta NYC. How can your discount your entire fukking childhood as being nonexistent and completely not noteworthy? Hella black kids born and raised in the hood scarred for life before they hit 13. If you know anything about psychology is that your childhood has a profound effect on how you view the world. Look at Michael Jackson, he was permanently fukked up because he was denied a normal childhood before he was 13. If Michael Jackson had 21 Savage childhood, he would have been a normal well adjusted individual.

What is more disgusting is 21 stans, who mostly sound like white kids from the suburbs, acting like being a thug in ATL is something to be fukking proud of. I'm old school and don't even respect Bloods and Crips from outside of Cali being from the Bay and 30+. At least Bloods and Crips in Cali were originally formed to fight off white racist mobs and restore the community. 21 was no Robert Yummy Sandifer who was forced into the street life because his mom was on dope and he was hungry because he was staying at his grandma house with thirty other broke ass kids.

You working with old information. Savage came to the US at the age of 7. I'll let you reconstruct your arguments from there.

 

[3rd Ward Swangin]

This karma for 21 laughing and telling that lil big head nikka to tell the crowd how he killed that rapper.

 

[MollyGalaga]

This karma for 21 laughing and telling that lil big head nikka to tell the crowd how he killed that rapper.

link

 

[3rd Ward Swangin]

link

 

[FreedMind]

Damn they got lil baby too

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

Dwight York - Wikipedia

this was spoken about years ago on here briefly, but figured it was pretty well known at this point..



years ago, when i was still pretty heavy in media.. i remember his son ran a label for awhile, too.. cant recall the name(possibly, LandSpeed.. could be wrong.. this was years ago, but i remember it was outta Harlem..) maybe @FreshAIG remembers..

either way, Jay still throws references to Dr. York.. 21 being on that compound/whatever they call it.. is weird as fukk.. makes this entire thing even crazier.. Wesley Snipes was fukking with Dr. Yorks movement before he was investigated.. moved to Africa, and had to sit down for a bit as well..

Yeah Jacob York (Malachi's son) was a founder of Undeas Entertainment with Biggie & Lance "Un" Riveria. He was also Gucci Mane's manager when he started.

Gucci Mane's Former Manager Claims Rapper is Schizophrenic

It's funny because just last month I was looking up stuff about Malachi's influence on hip-hop, specifically in Georgia. Outkast's ATLiens is completely influenced by his teachings.

This is a real good article about it and it explains
Category: The Nuwaubians

Dwight D. York, renamed Malachi Z. York, organized the Nuwaubian Nation to reshape the narrative of White supremacy by using a wide variety of differing belief systems.[1] They argue Black people are not only divine but are otherworldly, and while on this planet they are locked in a mortal battle against other extraterrestrial beings. York began organizing the Nuwaubians in New York City in the midst of a well-established and diverse array of African American philosophies; in New York the Zulus, 5%ers, Moors, NOI and Garveyites all jostle for ears, minds and territory in already congested space.[2]

This may be the reason why York moved the headquarters of his organization to Atlanta, Georgia in 1993. However, law enforcement bodies argue that York was on the run from charges of child-molestation and statutory rape.[3] Still, another theory suggests that York went to Atlanta because he regarded the city as an archetype of the mythical Atlantis, a perfect setting to usher in the next evolutionary stages of humanity.

Regardless of the reason for the move, in Georgia York attracted many followers and was able to purchase land where he began building an ancient Egyptian themed compound for his followers.[4]

York was also involved in the music industry during the 1960s, 70s and 80s as a vocalist and a producer with groups: Jackie and the Starlights, the Students and Passion. He eventually organized his own production company called Passion Productions and used music as a vehicle to spread his spiritual influence.[10] While little is known about his artistic endeavors in music, the influence of his movement directly ties into Hip Hop culture through the Atlanta based group OutKast, specifically on their second album ATLiens.

To elaborate, the entire motif of this album was steeped in the theology of the Nuwaubians and was a clear departure in artistic and philosophic focus from their debut album Southernplayalisticcadilacfunkymusic. The creative direction unsettled many in the Hip Hop community, arguably because the overall motif and perspective of the Nuwaubians was and is largely unknown.[11] However, close examination of the lyrics and theme of the album reveal a fascinating presentation of Nuwaubian theological understandings. For example, the song Extraterrestrial features the lyrics “out of this world like ET/coming across your TV/Extraterrestrial/straight from ATL”, clearly referencing the beliefs of the Nuwaubians while simultaneously suggesting that there something otherworldly about the Atlanta based group.[12]

To expound further, “Elevators,” the featured song and video of the album, in many ways announced a clear departure from the philosophic direction of the first album by featuring imagery that was replete with Nuwaubian theological symbolic expression.[13] To explain, the motif of the group evolved to display their shift in consciousness: Andre 3000 traded his Atlanta baseball cap for a turban; and their Cadillac, which dominated the motif of the first album, was demolished, making it clear that the group was modifying its paradigm. Moreover, instead of continuing with the parking lot/club playa scenes from the first album, “Elevators” displayed the duo meditating in the forest with others who were also seeking spiritual enlightenment. Finally, all of this was set as the backdrop to a chase scene of sorts, where Andre 3000 and Big Boi are leading a group of Nuwaubian pilgrims searching for a promised-land while being pursued by government agents looking to thwart their efforts. Upon reaching this promised-land, the wayfarers are greeted by extraterrestrials occupying a land dotted with great pyramids. The Nuwaubian trek displayed in this video attempts to project an apocryphal utopia, an appendage consistent with their theological approach.

OutKast was known for altering their motif and philosophy with each album to signify their evolution as artists, however with each offering, traces of their past mindset and artistry lingered, reminding listeners of their growth process. Their Nuwaubian experience also continued on subsequent albums, bleeding through in certain phrases, artistic styles and imagery.[14] Moreover, there are other groups and individuals that have presented the beliefs of the Nuwaubians, such as Erykah Badu, the Roots and Killa Priest, but none as flamboyantly or loudly as OutKast. Again, what this suggests is that there is vibrant spiritual expression within Hip Hop culture yet to be fully explored, that pushes against accepted norms

He's a big reason why it's so many New Yorkers in Atlanta. Musiq Soulchild grew up on the compound too.

Among the indie hip hop ranks, there are Nuwaubians who perform what they call Nu-wop, such as Daddi Kuwsh, Twinity, Nefu Amun Hotep, 9thScientist, Scienz Of Life, Ntelek, Jedi Mind Tricks and The Lost Children of Babylon.[24]

Other artists influenced by York during the 1990s (while already based in Georgia) include Amun-Ra of the group Pure Energy, Da Bush Babees Roboctopus and the Reggae group Born Jamericans, Erykah Badu, both members of OutKast, and Khujo of Goodie Mob, Common, Nas, Prodigy of Mobb Deep, Lisa “Left-Eye” Lopes, India.Arie and Musiq. The latter spent his early adolescence in the Putnam County area, and pictures of York can be seen pinned to his jacket in the video of his 2002 single "Don't Change.” Underground Rap Artist and Wu Tang Clan affiliate Killah Priest has also dedicated a mixtape to York

The picture on the right of his jacket is Dr York


York was a singer himself




I wont even get into all the wild stuff alleged to have happened.



No telling what he saw.

 

[newarkhiphop]

They targeted him for that in the 1st place. Ever since TMZ showed him with that thang out he probably been on they radar.

Edit: apparently its legal to have a loaded firearm in your position on or in your property in GA and this includes vehicles. I think he's ok on the gun thing if its registered to him and he owns that vehicle.

Even with priors?

 

[Homer Simpson]

You working with old information. Savage came to the US at the age of 7. I'll let you reconstruct your arguments from there.

According to 21 Juelzage

 

[murksiderock]

You working with old information. Savage came to the US at the age of 7. I'll let you reconstruct your arguments from there.

At this point, it's up in the air. 21's side is saying he's been here continuously since 7 (of course they would, right?), and ICE is saying he didn't get here until he was 12 (of course they would, right?). So that stuff will be entered in and debated in court but ultimately is of little relevance to whether he can actually stay or not...

To any extent that it has any relevance at all, the picture at Dr. York's place hasn't been dated in confirmation yet. He coulda been younger than 12 in that picture. He coulda been 12 or 13. He ain't a big guy and I was also a small 13 year old, they exist...

Whatever age he was when he got here is irrelevant. I view him as being an Atlantan. But he skillfully and willfully omitted his British origins in interviews and wax, he is documented as having lied about even knowing his father as well as who his father was/what he did, he has lied and/or exaggerated his involvement in criminality. His overall reputation will be fine because he is well liked, but his credibility is gonna take a hit of some degree...

End of the day, if that gun wasn't registered to him, he's buried. He's probably 80% done as it is, but if he was driving with an illegal firearm as an illegal immigrant, you can kiss his defense goodbye. They are already on the losing end and need some breaks to keep him here. If this is held up in court as him in posession of an illegal gun, it's a done deal...

 

[Pure Water]

According to 21 Juelzage

Okay?