True Detective scene about Religion (No Spoilers)

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You're against a religion when you choose not to adopt it.

Get mad if you want to.

Theres a reason you've aligned yourself with one over another.

I'm not "against" anything.

None of the claims asserted by any of those paradigms have, to date, been proven.

I'm technically a philosopher. What's your point?

Some minds think SOME things...therefore...what?

That doesn't mean anything, nor does it change my argument.

Atheism = lack of belief in a deity.

That doesnt mean your next move is to kill babies and stop paying taxes :stopitslime:

lol at you saying get mad if you want to.

and at you saying you're a philosopher.

and lol @ you actually believing that you're fooling anyone by pretending to simply being absence of belief in the existence of any gods. You go well beyond that and fall into all of what I mentioned above. You've already shown us the ethical relativism, materialsm scientism, militantism , and in between the lines (based on about 10K of your post we can see that despair.

It's ok friend..
 
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Sure.

But the counterpoint is therefore diminished though.

I'm of the notion that the mind-body gap has been solved, but a lot of people are still holding out for the moment when we can view life through someone elses eyes...its the same people who marginalize ever advance in lieu of some other "hold out" they can hold over the rest of our heads.

We've had this argument over materialism before, I'm tired. The consequences of something simple can be significantly more complex.
 

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lol at you saying get mad if you want to.

and at you saying you're a philosopher.

and lol @ you actually believing that you're fooling anyone by pretending to simply being absence of belief in the existence of any gods. You go well beyond that and fall into all of what I mentioned above. You've already shown us the ethical relativism, materialsm scientism, militantism , and in between the lines (based on about 10K of your post we can see that despair.

It's ok friend..

It doesn't take much to be a "philosopher" if you haven't noticed. :pachaha:

That being, said I fail to see what your actual point is.

The notions of theism are NOT substantiated.

End of discussion.
 

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We've had this argument over materialism before, I'm tired. The consequences of something simple can be significantly more complex.
So?

Burden of proof.

We're just electrical impulses reacting to stimuli and building patterns in the form of "reality" for the sake of efficiency.
 

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It doesn't take much to be a "philosopher" if you haven't noticed. :pachaha:

That being, said I fail to see what your actual point is.

The notions of theism are NOT substantiated.

End of discussion.
Are you saying that End of discussion the way TwoChainz says it?
 
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People create their own "purpose" My problem is adhering to something thats not true.

If the chinese want to live under state regulated capitalism, thats on them. Don't tell me "god" made you do it though.



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So we circle back to my initial question......Since people create their own purpose, have you created one for yourself as of yet?
 

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So?

Burden of proof.

We're just electrical impulses reacting to stimuli and building patterns in the form of "reality" for the sake of efficiency.

Materialism hasn't been proven, either, even if you think it's the most promising view developed thus far.
 

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So we circle back to my initial question......Since people create their own purpose, have you created one for yourself as of yet?

Sure.

I have.

Are people free to LIE about what they choose to base their existence on? Sure. You're free to technically do anything.

But I don't honor that sort of existence...simply because it doesn't allow you to ultimately make measurable advancements in life if you can't validate the specifics of extraordinary claims.
 

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Materialism hasn't been proven, either, even if you think it's the most promising view developed thus far.

Define "proven"

Theres more evidence for it, than anything else.

This is the problem of induction.

You can't ever definitively and completely prove ANYTHING, but the evidence stacks on this single position. :usure:
 
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Sure.

I have.

Are people free to LIE about what they choose to base their existence on? Sure. You're free to technically do anything.

But I don't honor that sort of existence...simply because it doesn't allow you to ultimately make measurable advancements in life if you can't validate the specifics of extraordinary claims
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Define "proven"

Theres more evidence for it, than anything else.

This is the problem of induction.

You can't ever definitively and completely prove ANYTHING, but the evidence stacks on this single position. :usure:

The scientific community still look into other possibilities, so not proven to the point of being on one-tract.
 

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whats the problem?

Can religious people believe in bullshyt?

Yes.

They can and do.

HOWEVER, if you make yourself susceptible to irrational claims, then you hold yourself hostage to a frame of reference that prevents you from coming to make substantiated claims or discerning the validity of certain claims.
 
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