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A strong argument can be said right now that daniel jones and darnold are the better quarterback lawrence
Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be "generational"
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How many years is the jury gonna be out? At this point they don’t even talk about bruh because there’s nothing good to say. His team doesn’t do him any favors, but goddamn. He’s paid too much to not even be a factor atp. He’s not trash, but again, stop paying these QBs top dollar just because they’re the next one up. If teams took the risk and let these nikkas flop on the next team with these contracts, the league as a whole would correct itself on these contracts
I think this is easier said than done especially with teams with poor QB history.
NFL changeovers can happen fast between the rosters and coaching regimes. You let the #1 pick go after 5 years and if his free agency aligns with a team turning it around or its rebuild paying off that GM is losing his job almost immediately as he not only failed to build around what should've been a franchise QB, you let him become that for someone else.
AFC South dodged a bullet
If he panned out to what he was supposed to be, we'd be possibly subject to gettin' put in a torture rack between him and Stroud.
That’s the owners fault not the GM. Patience. Trust your GM to do his job. Somebody will be the sacrificial lamb eventually and this bubble will burst, mark my words. You can’t take up this much of the cap and make no difference in the direction of your team.
Jags don’t give Lawrence generational money, and they’d be looking at what rn, a 1-5 record with no prospects? Big risk as opposed to what they’re looking at now
and what they were looking at before LawrenceMfs need to stop operating out of fear of the unknown/failure and go for it
It's not necessarily the owner's fault, every team owner doesn't move like Jerry or Woody. Eventually, somebody will, but that will be a while.That’s the owners fault not the GM. Patience. Trust your GM to do his job. Somebody will be the sacrificial lamb eventually and this bubble will burst, mark my words. You can’t take up this much of the cap and make no difference in the direction of your team.
Jags don’t give Lawrence generational money, and they’d be looking at what rn, a 1-5 record with no prospects? Big risk as opposed to what they’re looking at now
And in fairness, Lawrence currently isn't taking that much of the cap yet. If you can't build a team then the number of QBs who overcompensate well enough for you is a shortlist, and maybe even a non-existent one in Year 4 or less.
That’s my EXACT point. They don’t need that kinda money then. They only get it because it’s the status quo of the position. Very few teams have positive reasons they made their QBs the highest paid. It’s almost always “well what else were we supposed to do
Everyone else does it”Pay what they weigh and you can build the right team around them.
The way the market is now, Alex Smith could have been the highest paid QB in the league if his contract yr aligned with his last year in KC, and there was no Pat in the wings. Do you realize how fukkin stupid that is?
You can't use that in response to me acknowledging a historical one-handed list that might not even exist within Year 1-4. If that's the case no QB should be paid or ever should've been paid. We're going to struggle making that list period in the history of the game, not just today.That’s my EXACT point. They don’t need that kinda money then. They only get it because it’s the status quo of the position. Very few teams have positive reasons they made their QBs the highest paid. It’s almost always “well what else were we supposed to do
Pay what they weigh and you can build the right team around them.
Highest-paid in modern times?
Lamar was a former MVP and became one again en route to an AFCCG after getting paid
Hurts went to a Super Bowl
Burrow went to a Super Bowl
Mahomes is a bargain now but was astronomical in real time and he won 1 of 2 Super Bowls
Those are all positive reasons. And none of them were carrying trash to the playoffs on their rookie scale deals. Matter of fact now that I've listed them in wondering who's left that actually fit this "highest paid but garbage QB" archetype.
Are you thinking I think those QBs didn’t earn those contracts? Those are basically the exact QBs who should have Lawrence type money (outside of Hurts but he had a good yr at the right time). How many of those QBs are on the highest paid list rn? I’m not saying don’t pay any QB.
Where is Josh Allen on this list?
Which is why I said this
Not only do they solidify my point that young QBs aren't turning trash to treasure, the actual list of undeserving paydays is overblown and the narrative is based on emotion.
If you say so my nikka. The highest paid QBs somehow never manage to be the ones to make noise in the playoffs, or in general unless they were already like that, while the same top guys tend to make the same noise whether they’re at the top of the cycle or the middle of the cycle, until another generational guy comes in to add to it
Don’t make a difference to me my team is secured. Just funny to watch other teams make the same mistake over and over. Monkey see monkey do shyt
So in other wordsIf you say so my nikka. The highest paid QBs somehow never manage to be the ones to make noise in the playoffs, or in general while the same top guys tend to make the same noise whether they’re at the top of the cycle or the middle of the cycle, until another generational guy comes in to add to it
I'm not sure what's left to disagree on but aight
yseJ
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I think the problem right now is qb scarcity. We had one year where a lot of starters were hurt and fans/watchers complained about bad qb play and atrocious backups.That’s my EXACT point. They don’t need that kinda money then. They only get it because it’s the status quo of the position. Very few teams have positive reasons they made their QBs the highest paid. It’s almost always “well what else were we supposed to do
Pay what they weigh and you can build the right team around them.
The way the market is now, Alex Smith could have been the highest paid QB in the league if his contract yr aligned with his last year in KC, and there was no Pat in the wings. Do you realize how fukkin stupid that is?
Coupled with the eternal fear of letting go of a mediocre but at least known quantity qb and potentially having to rebuild a team, and it's very hard for GMs to just say "nah you aint worth the going rate for qbs wed rather take a chance on a rookie"