Trade 3 Firsts and a 3rd for a 4th Brehs - Official 2023 San Francisco 49ers Season Thread!!!

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Since y’all talking sohh, what was the name of the Mexican homie who used to make all the game/season threads? I can’t remember his screen name, but he held itdown for years on sohh

Edit: was it boog? Boogie?
 
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Yeah , I remember you then

I had another user name too waaaay back but I don't even remember what that was. I signed up on SOHH a couple times and it took them muthafukkas forever to validate my shyt. So then I had two usernames but I just stuck with saysumthinfunnymike because it had more posts to it and signed up as that name over here in 2012.
 

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There's too much cynicism in here. We could be in a bad situation like Dallas or the Eagles. Or 28 other franchises. If you're ready to get off this train then leave... we don't wanna see you in next year's thread :mjgrin:

Y'all would be much happier if y'all employed the betting strategy that I did. The Chiefs won me hundreds of dollars. Now I'm taking some of that and betting on NBA futures :mjlol:
Why wouldn't there be cynicism in here? I try to be optimistic for the most part, but there's gonna be frustration in this thread for a long time. It's not overselling it to say that we just saw arguably the most devastating loss in franchise history. That's hard to get over and even harder to look on the bright side after that L we just took

If the brehs wanna vent, let 'em vent :manny:
 
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Why wouldn't there be cynicism in here? I try to be optimistic for the most part, but there's gonna be frustration in this thread for a long time. It's not overselling it to say that we just saw arguably the most devastating loss in franchise history. That's hard to get over and even harder to look on the bright side after that L we just took

If the brehs wanna vent, let 'em vent :manny:

I understand people want to vent but there's no reason to be overdramatic either. I don't think it's the worst loss in franchise history though I was more disgusted with last season with Purdy hurt on the first series and I was way more disgusted by having to watch Elvis Grbac against the Packers in the '96 playoffs because Young only last two series. I was more disgusted with the Seahawks loss in the 2013 NFC title game. I was more disgusted by the 2011 NFC Title game where we couldn't move the ball at all and then Kyle Williams happened.

When a franchise makes the playoffs a lot in your lifetime, there's going to be losses like this. It's more important to me how they bounce back.
 

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my username was saysumthinfunnymike back then, it was based on New York Sports Radio WFAN... Mike and the Mad Dog. We used to (and still do from time to time) gimmick post about the racist ass NYC sports fans... i attended UConn at the time and we used to listen to those idiots everyday back then.

I changed my name years ago when i moved and when they announced a new Blade movie was coming out. And it's still not out. Doesn't even have a script :stopitslime:
damn I didnt realize that was you :salute:
 

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I understand people want to vent but there's no reason to be overdramatic either. I don't think it's the worst loss in franchise history though I was more disgusted with last season with Purdy hurt on the first series and I was way more disgusted by having to watch Elvis Grbac against the Packers in the '96 playoffs because Young only last two series. I was more disgusted with the Seahawks loss in the 2013 NFC title game. I was more disgusted by the 2011 NFC Title game where we couldn't move the ball at all and then Kyle Williams happened.

When a franchise makes the playoffs a lot in your lifetime, there's going to be losses like this. It's more important to me how they bounce back.
That's exactly my sentiments we lost a overtime superbowl to pat mahomes who aint losing to pat mahomes right now. In the NFC we are in a pretty good position cap wise and it looks like we found our Qb of the future it was a damn good season to be a niner fan not to may fan bases have had our success so I'll take that and i wont blame any particular unit or player but I'll give the chiefs props they are in the middle of a dynasty so purdy will or has to get that much better even after having the best season in niner history so im more optimistic then harping on a loss
 

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I fail to understand what's wrong with getting the ball first in OT :dwillhuh: you put pressure on the other team plus you get the first chance in sudden death.
A lot of people giving explanations but here's the facts, with no teams involved...

You ALWAYS kick in college style (both teams get the ball) type of OT.

If you get the ball and score a TD, the other team gets the ball next... They KNOW they have to score a TD to tie, so every series is 4 downs. They KNOW if they score a TD, they can win with a 2 point.. If you only score a FG, they now have choices whether to kick to tie, or go all in to win... If you do nothing, all they have to do is kick the fg to win.

The ONLY advantage you have by going first is if both teams match scores, you now have the ball again with only a FG to win



But if you kick... You get to let them make all those decisions and simply get the ball needing to tie or outscore them. You have no decisions to make. You going all in, all the way, and you will never even attempt to run a scheme for 3 downs.. Everything is 4. So you playing with more downs cause punting isn't an option anymore.

Your ONLY disadvantage is if they score and you score then they score, they win...



So really.... Why choose the thing where you need 2 scores to happen before your advantage kicks in? While the other option gives the advantage soon as you get the ball? That's why NOBODY in college asks for the ball first... Except Deion
 

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I hate Moody as much as anyone, and fukking up the XP was critical, but I'm not sure the chiefs don't score a TD instead of kicking a FG on their final drive of regulation. Would have been harder, but Mahomes is inevitable in those situations. We needed to win the game on offense, not defense. Settling for a FG on our last drive with enough time for Mahomes to come back was a killer.
This is flawed logic. If we up 20-16, that KC drive changes entirely. They go for it on 4th and we saw how that went in OT :francis:

fukk Moody though, as unreliable as could be :pacspit:
Here's the thing.. It changes OUR way of playing too. You can pick any play in the game and say "what if"

I'm just saying, if we don't miss that kick by him kicking off his damn ankle, the last three scores of the game play out differently for sure. I also feel that after scoring a TD, then seeing Moody return to Moody, just lets the air out of any momentum you just gained. Now the team is also looking up like "Damn now they only need a FG."
 

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my username was saysumthinfunnymike back then, it was based on New York Sports Radio WFAN... Mike and the Mad Dog. We used to (and still do from time to time) gimmick post about the racist ass NYC sports fans... i attended UConn at the time and we used to listen to those idiots everyday back then.

I changed my name years ago when i moved and when they announced a new Blade movie was coming out. And it's still not out. Doesn't even have a script :stopitslime:
Oh shyt!!! Soon as I read the name... Hell yea.. shyt I don't even remember my SOHH name. It wasn't the same as here and this one changed too after I got to the coli. But I definitely remember your long ass username lol.

It's really crazy but some of us been talking to each other for decades on these two forums. :salute:
 

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A lot of people giving explanations but here's the facts, with no teams involved...

You ALWAYS kick in college style (both teams get the ball) type of OT.

If you get the ball and score a TD, the other team gets the ball next... They KNOW they have to score a TD to tie, so every series is 4 downs. They KNOW if they score a TD, they can win with a 2 point.. If you only score a FG, they now have choices whether to kick to tie, or go all in to win... If you do nothing, all they have to do is kick the fg to win.

The ONLY advantage you have by going first is if both teams match scores, you now have the ball again with only a FG to win



But if you kick... You get to let them make all those decisions and simply get the ball needing to tie or outscore them. You have no decisions to make. You going all in, all the way, and you will never even attempt to run a scheme for 3 downs.. Everything is 4. So you playing with more downs cause punting isn't an option anymore.

Your ONLY disadvantage is if they score and you score then they score, they win...



So really.... Why choose the thing where you need 2 scores to happen before your advantage kicks in? While the other option gives the advantage soon as you get the ball? That's why NOBODY in college asks for the ball first... Except Deion
your logic is flawed because you know the outcome lets say we take your logic and the chiefs get the ball get a fg and the niners have the exact same drive and get a fg UNLIKE COLLEGE the next score WINS THE GAME and KC would only need a fg to win in college there is no sudden death they make them go for 2. I agree with kyle it was the right move just the defense couldnt keep them out the endzone
 

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your logic is flawed because you know the outcome lets say we take your logic and the chiefs get the ball get a fg and the niners have the exact same drive and get a fg UNLIKE COLLEGE the next score WINS THE GAME and KC would only need a fg to win in college there is no sudden death they make them go for 2. I agree with kyle it was the right move just the defense couldnt keep them out the endzone
My logic isn't flawed, my logic is based around WHEN your advantage kicks in. I never once denied that getting the ball first does have an advantage. I even explained what it was.. The same exact explanation you gave... Which is, after TWO scores, your advantage kicks in. In fact, there is ZERO chance you can assure the win on the first drive. No matter if you score 3, 7 or 8 on the first drive, you can't win.

While the team who gets the ball second, immediately has an advantage, if not several.. No matter if your opps score 3, 7 or 8 on the first drive, they can match it. If you score anything less than 8, they can win. If you score 0 or 3, they can win or tie with a fg. If you tie, now you are simply in the position the other team just had with you.

THEN the advantage of the receiving team kicks in. You only receive first in the old overtime rules. It makes no sense to begin off with a drive that promises you that you can't win the game with it and the other team can match
 
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