Top Boy Series 3 Discussion Thread | (Netflix)

[DaRealness]

But in the end up Dushane ends up sonning him. You want your freedom back, you work for me now Real grimey move using his brothers that aren’t a part of the road but like Omar said, “It’s all in the game.”

I think Jamie got more of a code than Dushane.

 

[old pig]

LOL I was wondering WTF they were spilling the drink on the floor before the reveal.

oh wow...them pouring the beer out went straight over my head cuz it got overshadowed by the follow-up scene w/ dude bumping into them...damn dope shyt...all the clues were right there tho

 

[beenz]

Anyone know if this show will continue, or are they cancelling?

 

[BK360NATL]

True... Dushane had to snitch to the cops for him to get rid of Jamie.

Atleast in the end he got dude out of Jail

Spoiler: Morals...code... Dushane/Sully/Jermaine

It was either that, or doing something to one of his brothers in order to lure Jaime out. At least, neither of them, nor Aaron's gf, got physically hurt. Now Jamie's "freedom" is literally in Dushane's hands, or do 20 years....He didn't "rat" to the police on Jamie, per se. He made the situation so untenable that Jamie had to succumb. Family over freedom, freedom over 20 years. Checkmate.

I mean, there is no "code" where everyone plays by the same rules. Remember in Season 1 how Kimarley and Lee Green went after Dushane's brother, who definitely was never on the road, and branded him. All to get to Dushane.

Dushane does have "morals" even though they are sometimes questionable. He, like many Jamaicans, was probably raised in church by his mum and broke away as he got into his teens. So the conflict is real. Season 2, Lisa went to him to "sort out" the Asian dude, as a favor. Also, kept Sully off of Ra'Nell from trying to get him on the road, and even when Ra'Nell came to them with the weed proposal, he honored his agreement. He respected Leon. He evolved in this season where old Dushane would've taken his mother's money, and repaid it, but he came to his senses, thankfully. He knew that Jaq's sister really messed up, but he wasn't trying to have her blood on his hands. Plus, after dealing with Donovan's death and his mother's scorn over it, and his girl's pleading, he made sure to get her out of town. Jaq's forever in debt to him for that, as pissed off as she was. She'll be loyal. He would never let anything happen to Sully, even though they don't always see eye-to-eye on tactics.

Sully...been on the road so long with no guidance, mom's was a drug fiend. So what's "moral" to him? He's about getting Ps and payback. He still didn't understand that twice (Bobby Raikes, Rafe) he should be dead, if not for Dushane intervening to save him. Sully still holding a grduge over what happened to Mike, instead of realizing that he was supposed to get the same ending..... He has no clue on strategizing for the long game, rather than the right now. Yet, he tried to do the right thing for Jason, but that kid really had no luck. He tried to make amends with his daughter, but I think he now realizes that he can't bring that danger around her. Which is why I think he spared Dris. Erin has no one to take care of her, and after the Jason thing, I don't think Sully would kill Dris and leave her pretty much an orphan. So, I think his "moral compass" is evolving. Just the same, had Dushane told him about Jaq's sister being the reason that Leyton took shots at him, he would've ended her life. And I can't see how they are gonna write up Sully and Jaime being cool after all of this either. No way Dushane gonna be able to talk them down.

Jermaine is a snake who still can't muster up the courage to take out Sully himself. Dude kidnaps you...already told you he never liked you, you get the drop on him after 6 years and....you want a conversation??? When he confronts Sully, Sully continues to punk him to his face.....because they both know Jermaine ain't never been about that life. He's not Rafe. It's always a conversation and Jermaine backs down, and gets someone else to do his dirty work. He's the epitome of a halfway crook. No "morals" or "code" here. Hell Modie punked him when he broke him out of custody and didn't pay him, and made him help go after Sully in order to get paid, which....he never did..... They never addressed what happened to Jermaine after him, Lizzie and Jamie got into it. Did he get stabbed? Once they saw that news report that Modie died, everything just stopped there. Later on, Jamie made mention that they won't be seeing Jermaine anymore, but nothing was shown or referred to later.

 

[HiiiPower]

Anyone know if this show will continue, or are they cancelling?

No way they won’t follow up with the love it’s got

 

[BK360NATL]

Anyone know if this show will continue, or are they cancelling?

Actually, the next season was filmed simultaneously with this one that we're watching now. It's already done. TBD on when they release it, but probably September 2020.

EDIT: I retracted this. Misinterpreted something else. Has NOT been filmed yet. Just under contract for another season with Netflix.

My bad

 

[HiiiPower]

Actually, the next season was filmed simultaneously with this one that we're watching now. It's already done. TBD on when they release it, but probably September 2020.

Source?

 

[Sin Simma]

I think Jamie got more of a code than Dushane.

Spoiler: Morals...code... Dushane/Sully/Jermaine

It was either that, or doing something to one of his brothers in order to lure Jaime out. At least, neither of them, nor Aaron's gf, got physically hurt. Now Jamie's "freedom" is literally in Dushane's hands, or do 20 years....He didn't "rat" to the police on Jamie, per se. He made the situation so untenable that Jamie had to succumb. Family over freedom, freedom over 20 years. Checkmate.

I mean, there is no "code" where everyone plays by the same rules. Remember in Season 1 how Kimarley and Lee Green went after Dushane's brother, who definitely was never on the road, and branded him. All to get to Dushane.

Dushane does have "morals" even though they are sometimes questionable. He, like many Jamaicans, was probably raised in church by his mum and broke away as he got into his teens. So the conflict is real. Season 2, Lisa went to him to "sort out" the Asian dude, as a favor. Also, kept Sully off of Ra'Nell from trying to get him on the road, and even when Ra'Nell came to them with the weed proposal, he honored his agreement. He respected Leon. He evolved in this season where old Dushane would've taken his mother's money, and repaid it, but he came to his senses, thankfully. He knew that Jaq's sister really messed up, but he wasn't trying to have her blood on his hands. Plus, after dealing with Donovan's death and his mother's scorn over it, and his girl's pleading, he made sure to get her out of town. Jaq's forever in debt to him for that, as pissed off as she was. She'll be loyal. He would never let anything happen to Sully, even though they don't always see eye-to-eye on tactics.

Sully...been on the road so long with no guidance, mom's was a drug fiend. So what's "moral" to him? He's about getting Ps and payback. He still didn't understand that twice (Bobby Raikes, Rafe) he should be dead, if not for Dushane intervening to save him. Sully still holding a grduge over what happened to Mike, instead of realizing that he was supposed to get the same ending..... He has no clue on strategizing for the long game, rather than the right now. Yet, he tried to do the right thing for Jason, but that kid really had no luck. He tried to make amends with his daughter, but I think he now realizes that he can't bring that danger around her. Which is why I think he spared Dris. Erin has no one to take care of her, and after the Jason thing, I don't think Sully would kill Dris and leave her pretty much an orphan. So, I think his "moral compass" is evolving. Just the same, had Dushane told him about Jaq's sister being the reason that Leyton took shots at him, he would've ended her life. And I can't see how they are gonna write up Sully and Jaime being cool after all of this either. No way Dushane gonna be able to talk them down.

Jermaine is a snake who still can't muster up the courage to take out Sully himself. Dude kidnaps you...already told you he never liked you, you get the drop on him after 6 years and....you want a conversation??? When he confronts Sully, Sully continues to punk him to his face.....because they both know Jermaine ain't never been about that life. He's not Rafe. It's always a conversation and Jermaine backs down, and gets someone else to do his dirty work. He's the epitome of a halfway crook. No "morals" or "code" here. Hell Modie punked him when he broke him out of custody and didn't pay him, and made him help go after Sully in order to get paid, which....he never did..... They never addressed what happened to Jermaine after him, Lizzie and Jamie got into it. Did he get stabbed? Once they saw that news report that Modie died, everything just stopped there. Later on, Jamie made mention that they won't be seeing Jermaine anymore, but nothing was shown or referred to later.

Exactly all of this. 100% Agreed. Summerhouse and early Season 3 Dushane always had a code, why do you think he killed the shotta who was ready to clip the old woman? Allowing Jaq sister to live and go elsewhere, something old Sully would have murked her instantly. Going off on Sully for robbing Du’nell. He cut him off after that. After his cousin died the way he did, Dushane changed. Just like Jason’s death broke Sully, the roles reversed. I’ll do whatever it takes to break Jamie’s will and have him under me without killing him. Crazy move but there is still honor amongst that. Jamie wanted to flat out kill him numerous times. Why ignore this, because people like Jamie?

 

[BK360NATL]

My bad, retraction on prior statement of the next season being already filmed. I read something a while back and probably misinterpreted it. They contracted with Netflix for two seasons. This one and another.

Here's some further details.

Is there a Top Boy season 4 on Netflix?

"
When will Top Boy be back on Netflix?
While Netflix is no stranger to releasing series like clockwork on an annual basis, the two-year wait between the seasons shown on Channel 4 may foreshadow a comparable timeframe to allow for Bennett (who’s written every single episode thus far) to maintain the established level of quality expected from Top Boy.

On the other hand, the aforementioned season three is the result of a six-year wait, so season 4’s outline may already be finalised due to the revival’s wide praise. In that event, the earliest they can release it is around a year after they start shooting. The problem being we don’t know when that’s scheduled to be!

Will it be the last series?

Netflix
The only information we have is that Top Boy was resurrected by Netflix for two seasons, with the first being recently released and the second’s release date still not officially confirmed.

Given that the streaming service hasn’t explicitly said that season four will be the last, that strongly implies that a fifth season will be commissioned. The other thing to consider is that Netflix has always been hesitant to reveal viewing figures for their content, so we’re yet to know how pleased they are with the most recent outing: season three."

Top Boy season 4 - what has Netflix said and how does series 3 end?

"Will there a fourth series of Top Boy?
Top Boy's showrunner Ronan Bennett has confirmed that he’s currently in talks with Netflix regarding a second series under the streaming giant.

In an interview with Metro, he revealed: “We want to do a new season and we’re talking to Netflix about it.”


Ronan went on to discuss how working on the new season of Top Boy was an incredible experience, adding that all of the ideas and concepts turned out exceptionally well.

It's not common that ideas and concepts written on paper can translate so effortlessly well on screen, but given his own words, it seems Ronan has found his dream team, who truly understand the core message of the drama.

“We’re incredibly proud of what we’ve all achieved with the new season," he gushed.

“Sometimes you write something for screen and it just doesn’t come out as well as you’d hoped even though all the individual parts are good, but somehow when they’re all together they just don’t gel. This is different.”"

 

[MikelArteta]

they better reup and drop next season fast we need that food blud

 

[dat aint da same sandwich]

Spoiler: Morals...code... Dushane/Sully/Jermaine

It was either that, or doing something to one of his brothers in order to lure Jaime out. At least, neither of them, nor Aaron's gf, got physically hurt. Now Jamie's "freedom" is literally in Dushane's hands, or do 20 years....He didn't "rat" to the police on Jamie, per se. He made the situation so untenable that Jamie had to succumb. Family over freedom, freedom over 20 years. Checkmate.

I mean, there is no "code" where everyone plays by the same rules. Remember in Season 1 how Kimarley and Lee Green went after Dushane's brother, who definitely was never on the road, and branded him. All to get to Dushane.

Dushane does have "morals" even though they are sometimes questionable. He, like many Jamaicans, was probably raised in church by his mum and broke away as he got into his teens. So the conflict is real. Season 2, Lisa went to him to "sort out" the Asian dude, as a favor. Also, kept Sully off of Ra'Nell from trying to get him on the road, and even when Ra'Nell came to them with the weed proposal, he honored his agreement. He respected Leon. He evolved in this season where old Dushane would've taken his mother's money, and repaid it, but he came to his senses, thankfully. He knew that Jaq's sister really messed up, but he wasn't trying to have her blood on his hands. Plus, after dealing with Donovan's death and his mother's scorn over it, and his girl's pleading, he made sure to get her out of town. Jaq's forever in debt to him for that, as pissed off as she was. She'll be loyal. He would never let anything happen to Sully, even though they don't always see eye-to-eye on tactics.

Sully...been on the road so long with no guidance, mom's was a drug fiend. So what's "moral" to him? He's about getting Ps and payback. He still didn't understand that twice (Bobby Raikes, Rafe) he should be dead, if not for Dushane intervening to save him. Sully still holding a grduge over what happened to Mike, instead of realizing that he was supposed to get the same ending..... He has no clue on strategizing for the long game, rather than the right now. Yet, he tried to do the right thing for Jason, but that kid really had no luck. He tried to make amends with his daughter, but I think he now realizes that he can't bring that danger around her. Which is why I think he spared Dris. Erin has no one to take care of her, and after the Jason thing, I don't think Sully would kill Dris and leave her pretty much an orphan. So, I think his "moral compass" is evolving. Just the same, had Dushane told him about Jaq's sister being the reason that Leyton took shots at him, he would've ended her life. And I can't see how they are gonna write up Sully and Jaime being cool after all of this either. No way Dushane gonna be able to talk them down.

Jermaine is a snake who still can't muster up the courage to take out Sully himself. Dude kidnaps you...already told you he never liked you, you get the drop on him after 6 years and....you want a conversation??? When he confronts Sully, Sully continues to punk him to his face.....because they both know Jermaine ain't never been about that life. He's not Rafe. It's always a conversation and Jermaine backs down, and gets someone else to do his dirty work. He's the epitome of a halfway crook. No "morals" or "code" here. Hell Modie punked him when he broke him out of custody and didn't pay him, and made him help go after Sully in order to get paid, which....he never did..... They never addressed what happened to Jermaine after him, Lizzie and Jamie got into it. Did he get stabbed? Once they saw that news report that Modie died, everything just stopped there. Later on, Jamie made mention that they won't be seeing Jermaine anymore, but nothing was shown or referred to later.

On the streets they don't respect when you involve 5-0, bottom line. Thats why Sully was disgusted with Dushane even though they "beat" their enemy. Your soldiers know you involve police you lose respect in their eyes.

About Jermaine, he was never written to be a big time gangster like his brother Rafe. He hadn't seen Sully for five years and just happened to see him outside his daughter's school so it wasn't planned. All he wanted was for Sully to acknowledge what he did was wrong but Sully kept being an a$$hole in spite of that so Jermaine wanted revenge. They were blood so thats why Jermaine handled it that way.

Exactly all of this. 100% Agreed. Summerhouse and early Season 3 Dushane always had a code, why do you think he killed the shotta who was ready to clip the old woman? Allowing Jaq sister to live and go elsewhere, something old Sully would have murked her instantly. Going off on Sully for robbing Du’nell. He cut him off after that. After his cousin died the way he did, Dushane changed. Just like Jason’s death broke Sully, the roles reversed. I’ll do whatever it takes to break Jamie’s will and have him under me without killing him. Crazy move but there is still honor amongst that. Jamie wanted to flat out kill him numerous times. Why ignore this, because people like Jamie?

They needed Jaq. Dris wasn't any used to them any more at that point and even though Jaq was loyal, they would have eventually lost her too and risked it all if her sister got killed.

As for Jamie wanting to kill Dushane several times, that's the game. They all know that when they sign up for that life.

 

[MikelArteta]

yeah. It’s set all around East London: I noticed Poplar, Bow and Leytonstone. Hackney was the locale by name for Summerhouse though, didn’t recognise any areas

I live in and around where they were shooting.

dope
was in london up until saturday and hit up hackney and some other sports i googled store fronts from the store, was actually thinking some local could make some good money doing a top boy tour

 

[BK360NATL]

On the streets they don't respect when you involve 5-0, bottom line. Thats why Sully was disgusted with Dushane even though they "beat" their enemy. Your soldiers know you involve police you lose respect in their eyes.

Only people who know about the police are Dushane, Sully and now Jamie. Jamie ain't saying nothing right now. Jaq can't say anything. Dris? Which soldiers are you referring to? Everyone's compromised.

Jamie still didn't realize how deep in the road Dushane was in order to be able to get that CCTV drop on him. While I understand the point of not involving cops, it was a more intelligent option than shooting up the streets and having the same police lock everything down, which does no one any good. No food getting shot, no Ps being earned. Lizzie even told Dushane, Jamie's a kid or thinks like a kid.

Sully still thinks like a soldier when he should be a general by now. He still doesn't realize that Dushane got the bullet that was meant for him, fed to Mike instead. He still doesn't get that point, and it happened right next to him. True example of can't see the forest from the trees. Can't take him seriously.

About Jermaine, he was never written to be a big time gangster like his brother Rafe. He hadn't seen Sully for five years and just happened to see him outside his daughter's school so it wasn't planned. All he wanted was for Sully to acknowledge what he did was wrong but Sully kept being an a$$hole in spite of that so Jermaine wanted revenge. They were blood so thats why Jermaine handled it that way.

I agree that he wasn't written to be any kind of gangster, but in the 5-6 yrs that passed, he seemed comfortable trying to press the kids. Never did it with Modie or Sully. Why? They know he wasn't built like that. Actually, he was probably finessing dudes back then, which is why they put the hit on him that Sully and Mike took up. He finessed Leyton into trying to kill Sully at the crematory. He finessed those dudes to break Modie out. He finessed a weakened Dris into switching up on Dushane and Sully. He finessed Jamie and crew to try to kill Dushane and Sully. Ultimately, he got finessed by Modie to break him out of jail for free and then punked into having come along for the ride in the hunt for Sully.

It wasn't a coincidence that he showed up at both Sully's daughter's school and Dris's daughter's school. He knew what he was doing. Sully punked him to his face and made him realize what's really real. They're blood? Sully told him to his face 5-6 yrs ago that he never liked him. What's done was done. Part of the game, right? Dudes put a hit out on him. All Sully wanted was the money. This the dude some folks talking about morals and code? He kidnapped his own cousin for money..... Dris was just weak, from the stroke, the drugs, and hurt of being demoted. Easy prey.

They needed Jaq. Dris wasn't any used to them any more at that point and even though Jaq was loyal, they would have eventually lost her too and risked it all if her sister got killed.

Jaq is and will be a good soldier. Just too loose with the lips. Even Dushane realized that Jaq was the one who gossipped to her sister about him asking his brother for the loan AND Sully's whereabouts. That's how her sister and Leyton found out. Dris' usefulness in that role was gone. But he was their day one. Life happened and that stroke got him in a bad way. I feel bad for him, but he flipped sides. If he's alive, maybe they send him to Ramsgate to work with Gem.

As for Jamie wanting to kill Dushane several times, that's the game. They all know that when they sign up for that life.

Yeah, but he failed. Got emotional and lost focus. He had the right idea when he wanted to wait for his shot. Now he's either doing 20 yrs or working under Dushane. To be honest, Dushane didn't even want to kill Jamie like that. That was Sully thinking it was Jamie's idea to try to hit him. Dushane was hesitant, but eventually made that call to get them armed up for war.

 

[pickles]

Honestly brehs there is parts of this show that doesn't make sense to me.
Like why breh in Jamaica got killed (Deshane cousin)


It was a good season, but I don't think will get a repeat watching.


ETA: More questions, did Sully set up Modi to get caught and killed by the police? Why cause he was being reckless?

Is Sully dead? What the fukk does he do for a living? Reminds me of stringer bell.

Who was that guy that Deshaune went to the beginning to ask for $10,000? His brother.

Low key though, brehs got some really good style on this show from the street wear to the suits and the wool jackets.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Honestly brehs there is parts of this show that doesn't make sense to me.
Like why breh in Jamaica got killed (Deshane cousin)


It was a good season, but I don't think will get a repeat watching.


ETA: More questions, did Sully set up Modi to get caught and killed by the police? Why cause he was being reckless?

Is Sully dead? What the fukk does he do for a living? Reminds me of stringer bell.

Who was that guy that Deshaune went to the beginning to ask for $10,000? His brother.

Low key though, brehs got some really good style on this show from the street wear to the suits and the wool jackets.

Donovan (Dushane’s cousin) got killed because he told him to lay low at a relatives house and Sugar’s goons got him first. I forget why he wanted him to leave. I think he was about to stop fukkin with Sugar.

I don’t see how Sully set up Modi. Modi was just being reckless in general. I think the writers did a poor job there tbh. Sully isn’t dead tho, last we saw he took out Dris for turning on him. Sully is a career criminal tho.

The guy Dushane went to for money was his brother Chris. If you see the first Summerhouse series then there’s a part where some goons get at Chris because of Dushane’s shyt and that was basically the end of their relationship.

I agree with the style tho. They got that fall/winter look on lock. I’m definitely gon take some tips.