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Had to wear a uniform for school and outside of it I never wore none of that off brand shyt. South Pole always seemed so corny.
Boss was hot in the late 80's early 90's because they were one of the very few brands (besides Karl Kani) in NY during that time frame that purposely made baggy clothes. I have no idea what nikkas in Chicago was wearing back then lolOnly giving you a pass for Maurice Malone wave.
Kani was done.
once Malone innovated.
Boss was commercially wack.
House ducks that wete ghetto wore that.
Not bboys or bgirls.
Gangstas, house, and ghetto were all segregated from hiphop.
all those wack ghetto goofies and ducks used to try to clown us in girbaud and polo back in the early nineties. Then in 1993. They got a clue and bit girbaud.
Then they bit. In the mid nineties. To try to rock lo.
Ghetto, house, and gangstas used to rock wack clothes with chiffon and rayon shirts, slacks and steppas. Huff ass towel coats, used, and damaged suits.
Bboys and bgirls did not wear that huff ass shyt.
Originally when Jordan's dropped and troop in the eighties. Gangstas, house, and ghetto did not rock one's. When the two's came out. Is when gear became what it is now. Where now you could get killed for your jordan two's. Which started violence or theft for your gear at gun point.
That is when it got dangerous rockin gear. You could get stripped. Or hat snatched started when the twos xame out. Plus gamgbanging ratched up because of the explosion of crack. Before that. Black americs was beautiful and totally safe. It was a dreamscspe.
when i think back to that time before crack. You could rock expensive track suits, like a two stripe. Then Adidas three striped dropped. Then later expensive track suits popped off. Like Sergio etc.
Once the jordan two's dropped. Then the jordan flight suit popped off. You could get killed for two's and a flight suit easy.
Then it became troop and task force jackets could get you killed.
Which is how the gear in hiphop. Got segregated from ghetto. Before 83. More people were receptive to hiphop. Yet once Leroy from fame became gay. Breaking got dissed in favor of crack and gangbangin. Then the new way of thought in hiphop was instituted. Where the stop the violence movement almost even'd the gang shyt out. When krs visited all the chicago high schools and some elementary schools. Walking down the hallways with the kids singing one two three...the crew is called bdp. It was glorious.
How krs stopped doing the job he asked for with puff and later the exposed bambaata. Is hiphop's death tragedy.
Before that. Hiphop protection mechanisms. In the new school way of thought worked. Bboys and bgirls were totally segregated from house, ghetto and gangstas COMPLETELY.
. Krs destroyed all cross over shyt in chicago.
like hip house serving Kool rock steady.
krs singlehandidly took out violence in hiphop all together back then.
It was the golden age and the best time for being a bboy or bgirl. Plus it created a safe haven from gangbangin and crack. As it made inroads outside to keep us safe from the nonsense.
Plus we looked different and gangstas just respected us and left us alone. While they went to go listen to house and bass music.
Back then they did not listen to hardcore rap. They listened to two step, rnb, and house.
We were completely segregated in hiphop away from the bullshyt. Till the prison industrial economy and communication ruined this.
placed the blame erroneously on hiphop.
by blaming us for house duck misappropriation of gangsta rap in the nineties.
Also it is a difference between gangstas and other places having crews.
Only chicsgo and la had gangs. Other places had crews.
Crews did not exist in chicago.
till after the large indictments. Locked up all the chiefs and heads.
Plus the destruction of all the project towers like calumet, Taylor's, etc...then The row houses and later cabrini.
Which made chicago safer in 2000's. Till vice goof ass ruined it. Glorifying violence to people. When crime was four time less than the before.
Vice made all this shyt ratchet up. By glorifying the bullshyt.
With splintered leadership, new breeds and renegades going crazy. To where we are now.
Through all that hiphop was and still segregated socially.
You not gon find no bboy from back in the day. Trying to be no hardcore ol school gangsta in an actual organization.
Only gangstas in hiphop in chicago in the nineties was:
Gun smoke
Gangstas did not listen to or fukk with hiphop at all.
Past that...you got ostracized. For turning ghetto or called a duck. if you was switchin sides.
so if you went from girbaud ro towel coats..
You was ostracized from hiphop all together.
Plus it created weird segregation. If you were a bboy.
Who had a homie. Who joined an organization.
That you had to keep it on the low. Or be looked at in a weird light.
Like example.
ibn who cut kanye hair.
Ibn homie chewie flipped to being street adjacent maybe even gangbangin. Giving ibn a weird look. Yet it allowed ibn to migrate back and forth through both worlds. Which is how kanye got to migrate both worlds. After dissing whpk and hiphop in 1996.
kanye was ostracized from hiphop. While boogs, happy, Ed, don c were still regarded as bboys.
Where boogs took to producing.
plus made gangsta rap and hiphop with no issues. As boogs and ed was from euphonics. Plus never violated and was ostracized like kanye. Euphonics had a whole tv show on public access. Before the bd twins had the gangsta rap radio station. That bboys did not listen to. We listened to hpk, wnur, loyola.
Where Don c and happy culturally connected kanye as well as boogs. After being ostracized from hiphop.
So weird dynamics like that took place back then. To see how things arise now.
Art Barr
Boss was hot in the late 80's early 90's because they were one of the very few brands (besides Karl Kani) in NY during that time frame that purposely made baggy clothes. I have no idea what nikkas in Chicago was wearing back then lol
Was it Enyce, IcebergI'm in London and people was getting flammed for southpole in my school early 00s
I think it started coz Southpole used to make them knock off looking avirex leather jackets loool
There was something similar to Southpole aswell, had a similar name and brand style. It was as shyt as Mecca USA but one level up. I just remember we used to rinse this kid for wearing this jacket broo looool. Hopefully it comes to me. Might need to look at an old source magazine or sutm
Yeah....I can't take a fat breh with a flipped back snapback, nose stud, yt wife beater, and baby christening chain/pendent in 2k24 fashion advice.
sorry not sorry
When was Marc Ecko spelled Echo?
Was it Enyce, Iceberg
Dusty Baker is right, it was Echo Unlimited when it first came out. Maybe lasted a year before the change
I had alot of Southpole and I never heard of anyone being made fun of for it at my school. And my school was like the fashion captial of the city.
Facts. The kids in school was all talking about Iceberg like it was the hottest shyt out.Enyce and iceberg were Baller level commercial ghetto and gangstas adjacent gear.
They were top flight and sonned all the brands in that era. You was getting washed. If a nikka had the original snoopy iceberg.
No gear all time ghetto, hiphop commercial. could compete with the first iceberg snoopy.
Enyce was buss'n..then it feel off for being to obsessed with velour.
Originally when rhey had tweed sweaters and other plush shyt. Enyce was cold.
Art Barr
Facts. The kids in school was all talking about Iceberg like it was the hottest shyt out.
How do you pronounce Enyce? I used to think it was EE - nice
I used to see this on display at the Norfolk NEX along with the echo shirts .bout as bad as buying the winter caps with the brim lolC.H.A.P.S.= Coulda had a Polo shirt