Top 5 and we on the run - Official Offseason Raptors 2021 Season Thread

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Theres no question about Norm should be dealt during the season dont even wait til the deadline hes not useful anymore...

His team defense is very average nowadays and his ability to get buckets is so incosistent not worth keeping him around..
 

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Were going 3-7 at best in our first 10 games...im not discounting us missing the playoffs entirely.
 

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Were going 3-7 at best in our first 10 games...im not discounting us missing the playoffs entirely.

Our starters had problems with Miami's third stringers. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up 9th or 10th.
 

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Our starters had problems with Miami's third stringers. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up 9th or 10th.

I dont count pre season for anything because even ur starters are only going at 50%

But alot of things about this game makes me think theyre not far away from 9th place...Van Vleet was bad OG still cant score,Siakam still goes passive in the 2nd half and doesnt demand the rock and the defense is no longer elite....

This team was a mediocre offense and has gotten worse and the defense is no longer top 3 in the league.
 

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Tonight was the hardest I seen Siakam work on defence in two years but dude doesn’t have the fitness to play energetically on both ends. Dude ran out of gas in the second half. And he needs to SLOW DOWN. And tired or not, he needs to demand the ball when nobody else can get it going. That stretch where we went cold in the 3rd he completely disappeared. Also zero fourth quarter points. No amount of skill development and added strength will benefit him in actually becoming a number one option if he doesn’t have a number one option mentality. That playmaking shyt he was doing in the first half was great but in the second half when your team needs you bro you have to go get the fukking ball.

Lowry too old to carry us, that much is clear.

OG is a role player who sometimes has a big game. However he was awful tonight. Just really bad. His defence wasn’t even that great. Ingram killed him. The difference in the second half was SVG started running pnr to get Siakam off Ingram cuz Siakam for once was shutting down a star player cuz of his length. OG on the other hand got torched repeatedly. It was just very bad all around.

As for FVV, can we trade this motherfukker ASAP PLEASE??? He’s too small and slow to be a consistent core piece. He’s a fourth option at best.

Baynes struggles to recover when you put him in pnr. Better than Gasol but still pretty ass. Our D fell apart because we started sending help in the paint after pnr killed us first half, leading to three after three. Granted, the Pelicans got super hot in the third but our defence didn’t help.

Powell needs to be traded. Every year he plays well for a month and fools people into believing he’s something he’s not. Dude ain’t even in shape. Gtfoh.

Nurse is overrated as a coach. It’s easy to have a top defence when everyone is a great defender but now you don’t have that and our scheme had so many holes exploited tonight. And his rotations, particularly transitioning from the third to fourth quarter, continue to be (and have always been) ass.

Boucher disappeared second half. Matt Thomas was not good on D. Whole team looked disorganized. There’s a lot to be concerned about.

As for the second half, there was no need to start doubling Zion so much. Completely destroyed our D.
 

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Tonight was the hardest I seen Siakam work on defence in two years but dude doesn’t have the fitness to play energetically on both ends. Dude ran out of gas in the second half. And he needs to SLOW DOWN. And tired or not, he needs to demand the ball when nobody else can get it going. That stretch where we went cold in the 3rd he completely disappeared. Also zero fourth quarter points. No amount of skill development and added strength will benefit him in actually becoming a number one option if he doesn’t have a number one option mentality. That playmaking shyt he was doing in the first half was great but in the second half when your team needs you bro you have to go get the fukking ball.

Lowry too old to carry us, that much is clear.

OG is a role player who sometimes has a big game. However he was awful tonight. Just really bad. His defence wasn’t even that great. Ingram killed him. The difference in the second half was SVG started running pnr to get Siakam off Ingram cuz Siakam for once was shutting down a star player cuz of his length. OG on the other hand got torched repeatedly. It was just very bad all around.

As for FVV, can we trade this motherfukker ASAP PLEASE??? He’s too small and slow to be a consistent core piece. He’s a fourth option at best.

Baynes struggles to recover when you put him in pnr. Better than Gasol but still pretty ass. Our D fell apart because we started sending help in the paint after pnr killed us first half, leading to three after three. Granted, the Pelicans got super hot in the third but our defence didn’t help.

Powell needs to be traded. Every year he plays well for a month and fools people into believing he’s something he’s not. Dude ain’t even in shape. Gtfoh.

Nurse is overrated as a coach. It’s easy to have a top defence when everyone is a great defender but now you don’t have that and our scheme had so many holes exploited tonight. And his rotations, particularly transitioning from the third to fourth quarter, continue to be (and have always been) ass.

Boucher disappeared second half. Matt Thomas was not good on D. Whole team looked disorganized. There’s a lot to be concerned about.

As for the second half, there was no need to start doubling Zion so much. Completely destroyed our D.

time to blow it up
i hated the fred signing nothing great about "steady freddy"

this core is ass

im ready for harden his trade value is the lowest it will be now do it masai
 

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And do right by Lowry, gauge whether or not he wants to stick around and waste the twilight of his prime for this.

There's a few contenders (and some on the cusp) where adding Lowry puts them over the top
Yeah, if we don’t trade for Harden then you gotta move Lowry to a contender...he deserves it. Our team is going nowhere this year and moving him would open up space to see if our “core” can do something. Lowry’s personality is so strong I think it gets in the way of other guys stepping forward and developing.
 

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Lowry at 34 is still our best player smh....I see nikkas all over twitter talking about Siakam bounced back,did they not watch the 4th quarter ????

Like you said,like we both been said for a year its his mentality...nikkas ia soft doesnt have the dog in him.

When that game got to 5 points in the 4th a dog would have demanded the ball and attacked...Pascal was invisible that entire 4th QTR.
 

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Lowry at 34 is still our best player smh....I see nikkas all over twitter talking about Siakam bounced back,did they not watch the 4th quarter ????

Like you said,like we both been said for a year its his mentality...nikkas ia soft doesnt have the dog in him.

When that game got to 5 points in the 4th a dog would have demanded the ball and attacked...Pascal was invisible that entire 4th QTR.
Somebody needs to tell him that in a harsh fukking way cuz it’s not gonna just materialize if left to his own devices. Lowry needs to get in his face bro cuz Nurse himself is too soft to do it. This passive shyt is role player behaviour and the team needs him to be a man out there.
 

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I don’t think you have to do right by lowry no one was giving a 33 year old pg 30 plus mill a year

But yeah you prob can get a first round pick for Kyle
 

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I don’t think you have to do right by lowry no one was giving a 33 year old pg 30 plus mill a year

But yeah you prob can get a first round pick for Kyle

I keep hearing this talk on twitter we need to right by him and do him a solid.Thats complete malarkey we gave him a ring he didnt give us one.
We over paid him for 4 years and got him max money,no other team would have paid him 33 mil a season on the open market like we did..

We do not owe him shyt.We treated like a star when he whined and moaned about his extension and while he tried to openly sign with San Antonio 3 years ago and had 1 foot out the door...As an organization stop catering to this nikka...Thanks for the all star years but it was us getting Kawhi that got you a ring and put you in the HOF category...Without the organization doing that he'd be an after thought right now.
 

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I don’t think you have to do right by lowry no one was giving a 33 year old pg 30 plus mill a year

But yeah you prob can get a first round pick for Kyle
By do right by him I mean let him know he's going to be traded if you intend to trade him and feel out which teams he prefers.

If he's still competitive, the interest will be mutual between him and said team. Otherwise why trade him when he can just ride out the rest of the season?
 
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