Top 10 NBA Player List: #3 of all-time

[Professor Emeritus]

How Lebron over magic


Lebron a wanna be magic

LeBron finishing higher than Magic AND Kareem is some prisoner of the moment shyt...

yeah lebron being voted top 3 all time is most def prisoner of the moment shyt.

Well, when that "moment" is "greatest Finals victory in NBA history" and you already have 4 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs to lay it on...

Lebron was #3 on ESPN's list even before this championship.


As for Magic....Lebron is a far better ballhandler, scorer, three-point shooter, finisher, rebounder, and defender than Magic ever was. And Magic's playoff accomplishments don't even match Lebron's when you put them in the light. Lebron definitely deserves being ahead Magic.

I have him behind Kareem for now, but I'm not sure they'll end that way. If Lebron has even close to Kareem's longevity, and especially if he adds another MVP or Finals MVP, he'll surpass him.

 

[Stack Money]

Goin from thread to thread wit that corny gif is all you can say since you can't refute my posts.

Well, when that "moment" is "greatest Finals victory in NBA history" and you already have 4 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs to lay it on...

Lebron was #3 on ESPN's list even before this championship.


As for Magic....Lebron is a far better ballhandler, scorer, three-point shooter, finisher, rebounder, and defender than Magic ever was. And Magic's playoff accomplishments don't even match Lebron's when you put them in the light. Lebron definitely deserves being ahead Magic.

I have him behind Kareem for now, but I'm not sure they'll end that way. If Lebron has even close to Kareem's longevity, and especially if he adds another MVP or Finals MVP, he'll surpass him.

:michaeljordanlaugh:Even sayin "greatest Finals victory in NBA history" is prisoner of the moment shyt, and he also has 4 Finals losses includin the worst Finals disappearance by a top 10 player all time in NBA history as well.

@ LeBron bein a better ballhandler than Magic ever was, Magic's playoff accomplishments shyt on LeBron's considerin he don't have all the Ls that ya boy has it don't matter what stan light you try to put them in. Magic >>>>> LeBron everyone knows this except yall.

LeBron won't get anywhere near Kareem's longevity cause once his athleticism goes its a wrap for dude he ain't got the refined skills to be elite like that without his freakish abilities, and he gonna be even further behind Kareem if he adds more Finals defeats which he prolly will once that Warriors superteam gets thru wit him.

 

[Supreme365]

I mean the media darling was called King before stepping foot on the court. Ofc he's going to win more MVPs in an award voted on by the media.


And being a favorite in only 2 out of 7 finals, best player on the planet

Wasn't Kobe being called the next Jordan since his second year why didn't the media give him more mvps

 

[Stack Money]

Wasn't Kobe being called the next Jordan since his second year why didn't the media give him more mvps

The media turned against him after Colorado and his beef wit Shaq.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Goin from thread to thread wit that corny gif is all you can say since you can't refute my posts.


:michaeljordanlaugh:Even sayin "greatest Finals victory in NBA history" is prisoner of the moment shyt, and he also has 4 Finals losses includin the worst Finals disappearance by a top 10 player all time in NBA history as well.

@ LeBron bein a better ballhandler than Magic ever was, Magic's playoff accomplishments shyt on LeBron's considerin he don't have all the Ls that ya boy has it don't matter what stan light you try to put them in. Magic >>>>> LeBron everyone knows this except yall.

LeBron won't get anywhere near Kareem's longevity cause once his athleticism goes its a wrap for dude he ain't got the refined skills to be elite like that without his freakish abilities, and he gonna be even further behind Kareem if he adds more Finals defeats which he prolly will once that Warriors superteam gets thru wit him.

Beat the best team in the Finals ever, while being the first to come back from a 3-1 deficit ever, while being the first player to lead both teams in ALL major stats ever, while averaging 36-12-10-3-3 over the three-game comeback, while avenging the previous year's Finals loss and taking the reigning MVPs' souls in the process (finals and regular).

Sorry, but this will remain in the discussion for "best Finals victory" forever.

As far as 4 Finals losses...you do realize that Magic/Kareem have that too, right? And they lost them TOGETHER on stacked teams, not on some outmanned team full of scrubs. Magic has two Finals sweeps AND a near-sweep on his list of L's, AND a WCF where he lost to a team with 10+ fewer wins than them, AND a first-round upset to a team with a losing record, AND the "Tragic Johnson" series where he choked away multiple games. And most of those L's involved Magic scoring in the teens.

And of course Lebron is a better ball handler than Magic. Your era-tinted goggles probably forgot that Magic could hardly even dribble with his left and was a turnover machine.

As far as Lebron's longevity...when will he be less athletic than Magic was at 31? Since he's a better shooter, ball handler, and defender than Magic ever was, even when his athleticism and therefore scoring/defence take a hit, he'll still be able to play a mid-career Magic-like role into late 30s at least, barring major injury.​

 

[Stack Money]

Beat the best team in the Finals ever, while being the first to come back from a 3-1 deficit ever, while being the first player to lead both teams in ALL major stats ever, while averaging 36-12-10-3-3 over the three-game comeback, while avenging the previous year's Finals loss and taking the reigning MVPs' souls in the process (finals and regular).

Sorry, but this will remain in the discussion for "best Finals victory" forever.

As far as 4 Finals losses...you do realize that Magic/Kareem have that too, right? And they lost them TOGETHER on stacked teams, not on some outmanned team full of scrubs. Magic has two Finals sweeps AND a near-sweep on his list of L's, AND a WCF where he lost to a team with 10+ fewer wins than them, AND a first-round upset to a team with a losing record, AND the "Tragic Johnson" series where he choked away multiple games. And most of those L's involved Magic scoring in the teens.

And of course Lebron is a better ball handler than Magic. Your era-tinted goggles probably forgot that Magic could hardly even dribble with his left and was a turnover machine.

As far as Lebron's longevity...when will he be less athletic than Magic was at 31? Since he's a better shooter, ball handler, and defender than Magic ever was, even when his athleticism and therefore scoring/defence take a hit, he'll still be able to play a mid-career Magic-like role into late 30s at least, barring major injury.​

Funny that all year you LeBron stans were sayin how overrated the Warriors were yet when LeBron beats them they suddenly the best team in the Finals evereveryone pointed out how they weren't better than the 96 Bulls 01 Lakers and Showtime Lakers to name a few but now yall gonna gas them up to make it look like LeBron accomplished some impossible feat.

Even describin it as takin Curry's soul is a narrative cause yall were tight he the back to back MVP and the first to ever win unanimous MVP, sorry but only LeBron stans think a top seed team beatin another top seed team is in the discussion of best finals victory forever (soundin just like a dumbass kid clueless on NBA history wit that hyperbole) just cause of the losin team's regular season record when we've seen countless times 60 win teams go home early which is why the sayin "It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ring" was used so much durin their run.

You do realize Magic and Kareem have 5 and 6 rings respectively right? They lost AGAINST stacked teams and BEAT stacked teams, cut the bullshyt about LeBron always bein on teams full of scrubs when he was on a superteam for 2 of his Ls. And that "outmanned" shyt is an excuse to justify his other Ls cause yall were sayin the same shyt about his team this year when they went down 3-1 in the Finals, cryin about how trash Love is and sayin Kyrie ain't much of a #2 when LeBron traded for Love and went back to the Cavs to play wit Kyrie cause he thought the Heat were finished and went chasin rings again.

Oooohh Magic lost to a team wit a whole 10 fewer wins than him thats definitely way worse than LeBron disappearin the last series of his first stint wit Cleveland cause his mom was gettin fukked by Delonte Westthe only bad series he had was the Tragic Johnson series which he was really only called for those turnovers cause he still had great numbers that were up to his standards thru that series. That wasn't nearly as bad as LeBron's disappearin act against the Celtics much less his WOAT finals performance in 2011 against the fukkin MAVS of all teams, hell all of Magic's loses you just named put together ain't worst than that cause LeBron had subpar numbers and went ghost in the 4th IN THE FINALS against a team notorious for their lack of defense.

LeBron also has first and second round Ls which of course were always excused by claimin he didn't have enough help you don't wanna go down that road of comparin Ls wit the great Magic Johnson, he was a PG he not supposed to be the primary scorer anyway the fact he even had 20+ points most of the time is a testament to his greatness. Gettin giddy when comparin numbers cause LeBron outscored him in series is pathetic considerin Magic did more and actually played all 5 positions the way you stans love to lie about LeBron bein able to do, shame on you for even havin the audacity to slander Magic to prop up LeBronit just shows you stans will go to any lengths to dikkride Bron.

Magic the goat PG who had some of the best passes you'll ever see your cum stained goggles won't let you realize that Bron ain't makin the passes that Magic was makin on the regular, he ain't even crossin nikkas over like AI to act like he got some untouchable handles you talkin as if he's Steph Curry or somebody.Magic didn't turn the ball over that much which is why they called him Tragic Johnson for those 2 turnovers in the Finals, if he was "a turnover machine" nobody would've been surprised at those turnovers to give him that nickname then he woulda had the name before that and been called that his whole career.

He's not better than Magic at ballhandlin and @ sayin he's a better defender when I just pointed out that Magic could truly play all 5 positions you lookin at Bron's trackdown and double team blocks and gettin stuck, Magic had elite highly honed skills that don't go wit age Bron relies way too much on athleticism once that goes its a wrap for your man's "goat contendin" career cause the fall off will be dramatic.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Funny that all year you LeBron stans were sayin how overrated the Warriors were yet when LeBron beats them they suddenly the best team in the Finals evereveryone pointed out how they weren't better than the 96 Bulls 01 Lakers and Showtime Lakers to name a few but now yall gonna gas them up to make it look like LeBron accomplished some impossible feat.

I never said the Warriors were overrated this season, so what the hell does your beef have to do with me?

I'm not going to say that they were better than the '96 Bulls, the '01 Lakers or the Showtime Lakers....but they are certainly the best team to be BEAT in the Finals ever. 73 wins goes a long way to that argument.

My argument was that the Cavs had the best Finals victory every. Since no one beat the '01 Lakers, '96 Bulls, or '87/'88 Lakers, who are you actually going to compare the victory to?

sorry but only LeBron stans think a top seed team beatin another top seed team is in the discussion of best finals victory forever (soundin just like a dumbass kid clueless on NBA history wit that hyperbole) just cause of the losin team's regular season record when we've seen countless times 60 win teams go home early which is why the sayin "It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ring" was used so much durin their run.

I like how a 57-win team beating a 73-win team is just "a top seed beating another top seed" in your world. The 66-win Spurs who lost earlier in the same playoffs were the best team (by wins) to have ever been sent home early. Warriors were another 7 wins above that. Beating teams with this many wins had simply never happened before.

Even describin it as takin Curry's soul is a narrative cause yall were tight he the back to back MVP and the first to ever win unanimous MVP,

I thought "taking Curry's soul" had more to do with Curry getting blocked about a dozen times during the series, giving up the ball on the quick whenever Lebron switched onto him, and Lebron working a clear intimidation angle at the basket to the point where Curry looked afraid to take it inside and played a horrific Game 7, including a complete disappearing act in the 4th quarter.

You do realize Magic and Kareem have 5 and 6 rings respectively right? They lost AGAINST stacked teams and BEAT stacked teams, cut the bullshyt about LeBron always bein on teams full of scrubs when he was on a superteam for 2 of his Ls.

The have 5/6 rings because they played together for 5 of them. Kareem only had 1 ring in 9 seasons before he joined with Magic, and Magic didn't have any rings in 3 years after Kareem left. If you really are 2 of the top 3 players in history, then once you combine forces in a weak era shouldn't you be winning the ring in EVERY season?

And did you ignore the breakdown of Magic's playoffs I provided earlier in the thread? The only "stacked" teams he beat were the 2 Celtics wins, and maybe the 1991 Blazers. All the other teams they beat were badly outmatched - teams in the 1980s outside of the Celtics/Lakers tended to be thin as hell, and the West especially was as weak as it's ever been.

In your world, were those 40-win Rockets, 51-win Rockets, and 54-win Suns that beat Magic's Lakers "stacked teams"??? Not to mention 2 years where Magic didn't have to beat a single team with more than 43 wins on the way to the Finals, 4 more years where he didn't have to beat a single team with more than 53 wins, and getting the weak pre-Moses Sixers and a not-quite-ready Pistons team in 1988 as 3 of his 5 Finals wins.

Magic didn't turn the ball over that much which is why they called him Tragic Johnson for those 2 turnovers in the Finals, if he was "a turnover machine" nobody would've been surprised at those turnovers to give him that nickname then he woulda had the name before that and been called that his whole career.

He didn't get called "Tragic Johnson" just for two turnovers.

Game 2 he just dribbled out the last FIFTEEN SECONDS OF A TIED GAME without even trying a game-winning shot. Can you point out a bigger last-second mental lapse in history than not even TRYING to score when you have a chance to win?

Game 4, he had the awful turnover to let the Celtics tie the game in regulation, then missed two free throws in the final minute that would have tied the game in overtime.

Game 7, he lost the ball on his own for another awful turnover that ruined the Lakers' last chance to win. Shot 5-14 for just 16 points (though 15 assists) and had 7 turnovers in that deciding game.

Overall, he had 31 turnovers for the series, setting a new NBA record for the Finals...beating the previous record of 30 turnovers that....Magic had also set himself in 1980. At the time he also had the 3rd-most turnovers in a Finals series with 26 in 1982, giving him a sweep of the top three slots. None of this is surprising for a guy who averaged 4 turnovers/game in an era with few ball-hawking guards, including nearly 5 turnovers/game in 1986.

THAT'S how you get called "Tragic Johnson".

the only bad series he had was the Tragic Johnson series which he was really only called for those turnovers cause he still had great numbers that were up to his standards thru that series.

I love how losing to a 1st-round opponent with a losing record isn't a "bad series" to you. Magic had plenty of wins where he didn't play well, but the Lakers were so stacked it didn't matter (I especially like the closeout game against the way overmatched Sixers where Magic shot 2-3 and was the SEVENTH leading scorer on the team, yet the Lakers still won by 10). 5-15 for 14 points in the closeout game against the Celtics in 1985, 7-21 for 16 points in the closeout game against the Celtics in 1987, and the Lakers won both games by double-digits. And then there are the losses. How about:

1996: Magic averages 15-9-7 on 39% shooting as the Lakers lose against the Rockets in the 1st-round.

1991: Magic averages 19-8-12 on 43% shooting as the Lakers lose 4 straight against the Bulls in a near-sweep in the NBA Finals. Magic couldn't guard Jordan/Pippen, and even Paxson went off (14ppg on 65% shooting for the series).

1989: Magic pulls his hamstring in Game 2 as the Lakers are swept by the Pistons in the Finals. But it had already been clear in Game 1 that Magic was completely unable to guard either Isaiah or Dumars, as they combined for an average of 50 points and 13 assists on 20-35 shooting in the two games Magic played.

1986: Magic had good stats against the no-namers playing guard for the Rockets, but when you're a 62-win team stacked from top to bottom and you lose to a 51-win team with limited talent and experience, stats aren't a good enough excuse. Yet another series where Magic couldn't be hidden on anyone.

1984: Tragic Johnson, as you mention. Magic has good stats but makes massive mental mistakes to blow the game at the end of Games 2, 4, and 7.

1983: Magic averages 19-8-12 on 40% shooting in getting swept by the Sixers in the Finals. Lakers aren't even close in any game, and Magic goes 8-21 with 9 turnovers in the deciding Game 4.

1981: Magic averages 17-14-7 on 39% shooting while losing in the 1st round to a 40-42 team. The final game is so embarrassing that I shouldn't describe it, I'll let the New York Times do it for me:

Magic Johnson reached into his bag of tricks and came up with air today - an ''air ball'' that never reached the basket with five seconds left - as his Los Angeles Lakers, the defending National Basketball Association champions, were eliminated by the Houston Rockets, 89-86.

Johnson, the charming young man who carried the Lakers in the game that clinched their championship last spring, had complained about teammates' jealousies this week. But he gave them nothing about which to be jealous today.

Johnson turned in a dreadful performance, making two of 14 field goal attempts and six of 11 foul shots, including two missed free throws with 30 seconds left that would have greatly affected the outcome. Fifteen seconds later, Mike Dunleavy hit a 15-foot jump shot that gave the Rockets the lead for good.

The Houston coach, Del Harris, opened with Billy Paultz, basically a center and an immobile one at that, in the starting lineup. Paultz took Magic inside, made a couple of early baskets and tossed several good passes as the Lakers were unable to take control.

Playing sometimes against four big men, Johnson seemed hesitant and ineffective

The Lakers called a timeout and gave the ball to Johnson, expecting that sooner or later he would perform some of the magic that has changed his name from Earvin. He drove down the middle on Tom Henderson, who is five inches shorter. Looking for the foul, Johnson hesitated before tossing up a weak jump shot that never reached the rim.

Malone hauled it down and later made two foul shots to complete the victory. Malone finished with a team-high 23 points. Reid had 16, Calvin Murphy 14 and Dunleavy 10. Abdul-Jabbar led all scorers with 32 points; Johnson was held to 10.

Go 2-14 for 10 points in the deciding game of a playoff series against a team with a losing record, lose the game when you miss two free throws with 30 seconds left and shoot an airball to end the game, and you dare to call it "not a bad series". Magic was 4th on his own team in scoring for the series and couldn't even dream of guarding the Rocket's little PG Calvin Murphy, who averaged 21ppg while Magic was mostly hidden on slower players - who, as the NYT pointed out, also burned him regularly.

That wasn't nearly as bad as LeBron's disappearin act against the Celtics much less his WOAT finals performance in 2011 against the fukkin MAVS of all teams, hell all of Magic's loses you just named put together ain't worst than that cause LeBron had subpar numbers and went ghost in the 4th IN THE FINALS against a team notorious for their lack of defense.

Dallas was notorious for their lack of defense?

They had Tyson Chandler protecting the rim, who was only the Defensive Player of the Year the next year, and Shawn Marion, one of the best defensive small forwards in the league who led the league in steals twice, plus DeShawn Stevenson who was another solid defender at small forward.

Numerous people were saying at the time that Dallas had perhaps the best 2-3 zone defense anyone had seen in the NBA to that point. That's how you take out the Kobe-Gasol-Artest-Odom-Bynum Lakers in a 4-0 sweep and the Durant-Westbrook-Harden-Ibaka Thunder in a 4-1 domination. Kobe was an embarrassing 23-3-2 on 42% shooting against that defense, and he supposedly has the jump shot you need to defeat the zone.

I'd love to see you explain again how Lebron losing to a Dallas team in 6 games in the Finals is worse than Magic losing to a Rockets team with a LOSING RECORD in the 1st round, especially when he goes 2-14 for 10 points and blows the game-winner in the process.

LeBron also has first and second round Ls which of course were always excused by claimin he didn't have enough help

Actually, no, Lebron doesn't have any 1st-round losses at all, and he's never lost to a losing team or anything even close to it. That shows how much you know about this.

His only 2nd-round losses were against the Celtics, and against the Pistons in his very first playoffs. In each of those series, the other team had 4 of the best 5 players on the court AND better coaching. Magic never even came close to facing that.

He's not better than Magic at ballhandlin and @ sayin he's a better defender when I just pointed out that Magic could truly play all 5 positions you lookin at Bron's trackdown and double team blocks and gettin stuck, Magic had elite highly honed skills that don't go wit age Bron relies way too much on athleticism once that goes its a wrap for your man's "goat contendin" career cause the fall off will be dramatic.

Magic could barely even dribble with his left hand. Outside of the open court, his ballhandling was nothing compared to today's players.

And you don't have to believe me, you can trust Isaiah Thomas if you want.

And you're trying to pretend Magic even compares to Lebron on defense.

If Magic's skills didn't go away with age, then why didn't Magic win any titles after the age of 28 when Kareem left? He had 3 full seasons before he retired and his team was still stacked with Worthy, Thompson, Green, Scott, Cooper, Divac, Perkins, etc. in an expansion era. Yet he only won 1 Finals GAME total in the next three years. I agree that Magic's skills didn't degrade much...but then you have to admit that it was the stacked team and weak competition, not just Magic's skills, that got the Lakers so many championships from 1980-1988 and none at all after that.

 

[Stack Money]

Some bullshyt slurpin LeBron

I knew you'd respond wit one of your long ass "break down each line of someone's post into sections" posts, you always get heated and rant like an emotional bytch when someone calls you out on your bullshyt. Most of you stans claimin its the greatest victory ever were sayin the Warriors were mad overrated so it can't be the best victory by that logic I don't care what YOU said specifically, and all those teams that the Warriors weren't as good as not losin themselves is my point the Cavs ain't beat the best team ever you just sayin it based on regular season record when as I said that doesn't automatically make a team one of the goats. The 01 Lakers didn't have a spectacular regular season record they didn't even have the best record in the conference or have a 60+win season but they still considered one of the GOAT teams cause of what they did in the playoffs, the Warriors ain't on that level cause they didn't get the job done so the Cavs beatin them isn't the great feat you think it is.

The Cavs beatin the Warriors is literally a top seed beatin another top seed I'm livin in the real world without all that stan hyperbole bullshyt that you talkin bout in here, you just said yourself the Spurs were the best "by wins" not actually the best team to be sent home early cause its mad great teams to go home early hell its 1 seeds to go home early so that further proves records don't mean shyt in the postseason you makin my point and don't even know it. No team has had that many wins period so obviously beatin them hasn't been done before but that don't make it as special as you think when this season was trash outside of those Warriors and Spurs teams even the West was subpar this season, and the Cavs won wit help from the league bogus suspensions phantom foul calls and refs swallowin their whistles when the Cavs committed fouls definitely played a large part in their victory.

Bron blocked Curry maybe twice 1 time that everyone remembers he even blocked a practice shot after the whistle cause he was furious over Curry gettin so much praise the last 2 years, shyt just shows how Curry took HIS soul last Finals and had him beside himself wit those MVPs especially the unanimous one. There you go wit more hyperbole makin up shyt about Curry bein afraid of LeBron claimin he gave up the ball when Bron guarded him and wouldn't attack the basket when he was drivin to the hoop all series, and Curry went up against your boy plenty of times the Cavs just took him out the games by triple teamin him and focusin their entire D on him no doubt at LeBron's request cause if they were gonna lose he didn't want Curry to have a good series and win Finals MVP against him his fragile psyche couldn't handle it.

Tryna downtalk Magic and Kareem's careers wit that "they played together LeBron never had help" bullshyt won't work either Kareem won 1 in 9 seasons cause HE didn't have help most of the time, @ you talkin bout what you should do if you top 3 all time in weak eras when LeBron playin in the historically weak East he wouldn't even make half these Finals if he had competition in the East. And he got beat by the MAVS while Magic and Kareem were playin against the great Celtics and Pistons teams you ignorin that and actin like they went against regular teams like LeBron, and Magic didn't win after Kareem cause he was past his prime at that pointbut if you top 3 all time you shouldn't lose to teams wit no defense when you on a superteam in your prime and definitely shouldn't disappear in 4th Quaters of a Finals series.

fukk your breakdown you pretendin like some of those Ls didn't come AGAINST those stacked teams and are tryna say they lost just like LeBron as if they were playin against the same caliber of competition, if they were in this era on his teams they wouldn't be 3-4 thats for damn sure. There you go hangin everythin on regular season records you think those teams were weak based on records but I already pointed out that don't mean shyt in the postseason, the Cavs this season only had 3 more wins than those Suns and 4 more than the other teams he beat wit "no more than 53 wins" you just named yet the Cavs won the championship once again provin my point so miss me wit that shyt.

Like I said PGs ain't supposed to be the scorers they supposed to run the offense and set things up, the Tragic Johnson came after game 4 you just highlightin his bad plays to back up your argument that he played worse than LeBron when his numbers still were better than those 2011 numbers. :michaeljordanlaugh:You have the audacity to talk about not takin shots when LeBron went ghost in every 4th of an entire Finals series, give it up bytch no all time great had a worse finals than LeBron did you gettin hyper like that somehow cancels out what your idol did.

Losin to a team ain't a bad series if HE didn't play bad, notice you keep bringin up scorin the reason his teammates scored more is cause he set them up dumbass he's the PG his primary role is to make sure everyone else is involved and scorin so of course they outscored him. Smarten up.

:unclecharlesdead:@ mentionin 96 his last season long after his prime after he got fukkin AIDS, shows how desperate you are to tear down his legacy in a pathetic attempt to make Lebron look better. You gross for even makin these foolish arguments, and it looks like you copyin and pastin descriptions of some of these series from other sites.You admittin he has good stats yet are tryna spin shyt to make him look bad and puttin your bullshyt narrative of him costin them the game while makin an 11 win difference in a REGULAR SEASON record seem like such a big deal, you don't wanna get into a discussion about havin good stats but actually playin like shyt since that describes half of your boy LeBon's career.

Call a series bad cause of a bad last 30 seconds of one of the games while scramblin for links to outsource help for your flimsy attempt at downtalkin a widely recognized GOAT contender in order to suck off LeBron brehs, stop the presses the goat PG was the 4th best scorer on his team in a series and averaged an entire 4 points less than the opposin team's PG (who you hypin up as playin so much better than him yet didn't have all around better numbers than him) imagine that. Their scorin couldn't possibly be because he was settin up his teammates wit behind the back passes on the historic Showtime teamnah they got those points on their own while Magic was standin around wit his thumb up his ass.

He wasn't defensive player of the year that year and he's just 1 player, Shawn Marion was past his prime and unless he led the league in steals that year there's no point in even bringin it up except to try and make your argument look better than it actually is.:mmmhmmiseeyou:You know the defense wasn't that good when you're namin defenders and the third name is a role player who you describe as just a "solid defender", everyone pointed out their defense was suspect at best they were still referred to as the allas Mavericks for a reason. The fact they made it to the Finals was a shock in large part because of their lack of defense, you actin like its absurd for me to say that is laughable and just another attempt by you to gas up LeBron's opposition to make him look better.

No surprise you try to take a shot at Kobe to deflect from LeBron's horrible play against that teamKobe didn't disappear in the 4th on a superteam and score a total of 0 points in 1 game and 2 points in 3 other games. Its easy to explain only a retard wouldn't get it Magic wasn't supposed to be the scorer he scored in addition to other things because he was that great, and what you mentioned was 1 bad game in the first round while LeBron had a bad series in the Finals and constantly choked in the 4th. You keep tryna focus on the regular season record of the opponents when I already pointed out that shyt don't matter, they played well in the playoffs against the Lakers which is why they won.

Right LeBron never even made the playoffs at all those years I was thinkin of you gettin giddy cause you remember more LeBron facts than me as if its sometin to be proud of that just shows what a cocksucker of his you are. I mean I'm a Kobe fan and I couldn't even tell you what his team did every year cause I ain't on his jock like you are wit LeBron and Magic faced that multiple times in the finals not only great teams that year but ALL TIME great teams LeBron never came close to facin what Magic faced if he did he'd have an even worse Finals record.

There you go again outsorcin opinions I don't care what Isaiah said that don't make it true, but if you wanna play that game Magic said Kobe the GOAT Laker so I guess that's true too.

Magic guarded all 5 positions and started at Center as a rookie in the NBA Finals wit Kareem out in a closeout game (which he won wit 42 15 7 as his stat line), meanwhile LeBron gets dikkridden by idiots like you who pretend he can guard that many positions when he actually can't. Magic went up against the prime Bulls when he only won 1 game in the Finals he was playin against the GOAT, no I don't have to admit shyt you talkin bout stacked teams when I just highlighted him closin out a series without Kareem he was at the end of his prime when Kareem retired and when he got back to the Finals he faced a ready Jordan who finally got past the Pistons and Jordan doesn't lose in the finals unlike your boy LeBron who stay losin.:mspaintcamumad:

 

[Juggalo Fred]

damn dudes posting books in here now. lebron turning posters into authors

 

[Stack Money]

damn dudes posting books in here now. lebron turning posters into authors

The dude who started writin novels is a LeBron stan like youmy post was long cause I was replyin to all that shyt.

 

[HoopLife]

The dude who started writin novels is a LeBron stan like youmy post was long cause I was replyin to all that shyt.

Yet you said you didn't read his post. It's pretty obvious you're an undercover fakkit

 

[Stack Money]

Yet you said you didn't read his post. It's pretty obvious you're an undercover fakkit

I never said I didn't read it I just got finished respondin to itand that ain't got nothin to do wit bein a fakkit you got gay shyt on your mind.:iversondisgusted:

 

[HoopLife]

I never said I didn't read it I just got finished respondin to itand that ain't got nothin to do wit bein a fakkit you got gay shyt on your mind.:iversondisgusted:

Self projecting fakkit

 

[Stack Money]

Self projecting fakkit

You the one that ran in here randomly sayin some gay shyt, you were tryna project your fakkitry onto me cause you got mad at my post.

 

[Greenhornet]

the list already being disjointed as fukk