Too Short Talks About Drake Using His Lyrics
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Drake Fans Called A Philadelphia District Attorney "Begging Her To Arrest" Meek Mill
His fan base is sick.
Fred.
How do you not know when someone is biting 
You new nikkas are terrible.
You new nikkas are terrible.
KingsOfKings
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i wouldnt be surprised if he swagger jack some other lesser known Bay Area artist.Aubrey biting The Bay again?
I understand he appeal to certain members on here ,but keeping it a buck : dude is corny to me.
KingsOfKings
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what happen with that situation wasnt 4-tay suppose to sue?
KingsOfKings
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Nah 4-Tay was just like
and spoke on it and Drake cut him a check. Never went to court as far as I know.Fred.
He ended up cutting the check.
Drake Pays $100,000 to Rappin' 4-Tay for Ripping Off "Playaz Club" Lyrics on YG's "Who Do You Love" | Pitchfork
After he posted E-40's Sick Wid It chain and a pic of Nef The Pharaoh, I thought he would on Views.
NO, THEY HAVE NOT.
Up until the 2000s and Jay-Z's introduction of the concept of "paying homage", biting was prohibited in rap and would get you ostracized. NOBODY can dispute that biting was always frowned upon in rap, this "beginning of time" narrative is just maddeningly silly.
Please don't buy into that whole narrative change, @dora_da_destroyer . It's factually and patently false and its the ONLY narrative left for some of these Drake stans to cling to....
1) Widespread practice of an abhorrent tenet DOES NOT automatically equate with acceptance of it....and a segment of the culture supporting it doesn't mean the ENTIRE culture supports it.
2) People ASSUME that others know it's "paying homage"....half thesee young dudes think artists from last YEAR are irrelevant in this throwaway ass culture, it's wrong to assume they KNOW where a lyric originally came from, even if it's only been a FEW years....let's not forget how Missy Elliott of all people was trending on Twitter after that Super Bowl performance with Katy Perry, which had young cats saying things like "whoever this is is going to be famous tomorrow"....
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
people have been interpolating melodies, stanzas, and lyrics from other songs for forever. i'm at work so i won't list a whole bunch of shyt, but off top "industry rule #4080...", "now here's a little story i got to tell"...biting goes beyond simply borrowing lyrics. biting, the biting that gets you in trouble, is Master P - jacking people's style of music, sound, image, making the same type of song they made, etc. Nothing wrong with starting off a song with a few bars from short when the whole fukking song is built on a slowed down "blow the whistle" that's clearly paying homage. This shyt can be traced back to melodies/lyrics stolen from 70's/80's r&b/soul/pop songs where rapper repurpose the melody or words. It's not biting to use a lyric or a few bars and moving on...it's a nod to the real fans who can quote that shyt and know where it's from.
NO, THEY HAVE NOT.
Up until the 2000s and Jay-Z's introduction of the concept of "paying homage", biting was prohibited in rap and would get you ostracized. NOBODY can dispute that biting was always frowned upon in rap, this "beginning of time" narrative is just maddeningly silly.
Please don't buy into that whole narrative change, @dora_da_destroyer . It's factually and patently false and its the ONLY narrative left for some of these Drake stans to cling to....
1) Widespread practice of an abhorrent tenet DOES NOT automatically equate with acceptance of it....and a segment of the culture supporting it doesn't mean the ENTIRE culture supports it.
2) People ASSUME that others know it's "paying homage"....half thesee young dudes think artists from last YEAR are irrelevant in this throwaway ass culture, it's wrong to assume they KNOW where a lyric originally came from, even if it's only been a FEW years....let's not forget how Missy Elliott of all people was trending on Twitter after that Super Bowl performance with Katy Perry, which had young cats saying things like "whoever this is is going to be famous tomorrow"....
1) see the difference between true biting and dropping a few bars from an existing song...
2) bruh, who gives a fukk. this is not the artist's plight, it's on listeners to know the music/have broader exposure or simply learn the soure via WOM or the internet. there have been plenty of songs i didn't know used lyrics, was a remake, or sampled a beat, and somehow i found out the source material down the line. it's like, "oh" and back to the version i fukk with. there's no rule saying that person would've been a fan of the original artist, there are no rules that say you have to like the original better. knowing who said it/made it first doesn't change your reaction to the remake. i remember the tinashe thread on here and someone didn't know she basically covered "funny how time flies" by janet...a song that was pretty damn popular and is in regular rotation during any urban station's slow jam hour. nothing abhorrent about tinashe using that song, that's the fault of dumbasses who don't know shyt about music as well as it's simply part of the game, things get forgotten over time and brought back to life
KravenMoreheadโข
Barrel Brothers.ยฎ
Jay and Drake get criticized for using flows all the time
Flow and lyrics are interchangeable with my larger point
You get paid for this shyt?
goddammit nikka, shyt
Let's unpack this.....
You are repeatedly referencing "stanzas and melodies" and talmbout "biting goes beyond borrowing lyrics" to run in conjunction with your argument....but we're SPECIFICALLY talking about lyrics. Your reference to "melodies/lyrics stolen from 70's/80's r&b/soul/pop songs where rapper repurpose the melody or words" is misplaced. We're discussing rappers biting lyrics from other rappers....you're trying to incorporate melodies and R&B lyrics and such into the scope of the argument when they were never THERE to begin with (and lyrics are not synonymous with melodies; they are separate.)
Now to my point....historically speaking there have been plenty of rappers who have objected on wax to biting LYRICS from other rappers. I really don't think I need to cite the many, many examples, people can just Google them. Like seriously, if people don't know that biting another rapper's lyrics was a MAIN theme of rap songs and verses during the times like the First Golden Era, they are ignorant to the culture's factual history (only in RAP is knowing your history considered "corny"....smh at some of these smart dumb nikkas, man).
....except that the problem with that is that people aren't even able or willing to accept what the premise of "true biting" entails. There's a disingenuousness in even TRYING to contextualize what "true biting" is cause some of these rap fans don't acknowledge that it EVER existed...so your position here doesn't follow, the very audience whom your unconsciously (as in, not deliberately conscious) defending don't even believe biting EVER existed.
....except that you cannot ascribe what YOU did and what YOU know to other people's experiences, yo. Just cause you had enough intellectual discernment to do that don't mean the next young dummy would also. You can't put that responsibility on the listeners when you KNOW they don't accept or even acknowledge it, that's FAR too convenient. Hell, BECAUSE we've left it to the listeners there are dumbasses out there who thought Missy Elliott was a new artist. I mean, THIS IS FACT, you even laughed about it IN THE THREAD (pretty sure that was you) and commented on how LOST these young cats are....
You misunderstood my use of "abhorrent". I was saying that a segment of hip-hop culture still finds biting lyrics to be abhorrent, no matter how much of a minority their voices may be these days. Ain't nobody trippin off no remake....we already know nikkas ain't original anymore. At this point, nikkas biting so much - and its widespread acceptance WITHIN the emcee sub-culture/community - is just a sign that they're not creative enough (or more likely, too LAZY) to come up with their own shyt to define themselves and their generation. They'd all rather sound alike....and it's reflected in how shytty alotta the music sounds.
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The video I posted came out 2 months before The Motto was released
NORE was irrelevant af tho