Tony the Tyga caught cheating with tranny

[luvaznpoon]

@hypo666

 

[mortuus est]

Damn I just saw the texts

u think he was smashing mia raw? i think so breh

 

[MikelArteta]

Get hiv brehs

Someone link me to these texts.

 

[wet landscapes]

your experience doesn't change the legal definition. that guy in your example would be labeled bisexual not pansexual. nothing you are saying makes sense. lol. most transwomen still have their penis, thats where a lot of the attraction comes from. these men aren't straight

but they have female secondary sexual characteristics
biological intersexed people aren't so common that people just having a natural, lifelong attraction to hermaphrodites seems feasible
being into tranny porn doesn't make me think that they are pansexual, since being pansexual means that men women and intersexed people are attractive to you and t chasers exclude cis men sexually
not to mention that t porn is highlighing the fact that the person is trans, not caring about gender doesn't automatically mean you are attracted to transexuals

 

[mariahcooper]

I know the term, a girl I used to know from school is a pansexual. The thing is, a pansexual could be attracted to anyone, including men, so there aren't a lot of straight dudes who would take up that term as their own if they were to entertain dating a transgender woman. And if I'm being honest, I think one of the reasons why for some of those guys who otherwise would is that they don't want to be shamed by other men



I did ask some people about it who are more knowledgeable about this stuff, they said it would make me transphobic, because I don't see them as a woman . The argument was that if she was perfect and you were attracted, you'd only not date her because she has a dikk - children obviously changes the game though because transgender women cannot bear children. It's a tough one to entertain, and a tough one even admitting to discussing with others on a forum like this, where anything makes you homo .

Either way, I'm at peace with being seen as transphobic by some. It's unfortunate, but I'm just not that enlightened .

those pro trans people are dumb and are making people dislike trans people even more. im not interested in vagina and it doesn't make me a bigot for not wanting to date a trans man. people can date whoever the hell they want. genitalia does matter!!

 

[O.T.I.S.]

it's really not that popular, it's still a fetish thing.

here's the top porn searches around the world last year:

Spoiler

Damn.. Lisa Ann killing the game

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Went from a minor to a transwoman

Predictable that he'll get the homo accusations now

he did have his own porn movie a few years back

he had to get initiated somehow

 

[SouthernBelle]

I know the term, a girl I used to know from school is a pansexual. The thing is, a pansexual could be attracted to anyone, including men, so there aren't a lot of straight dudes who would take up that term as their own if they were to entertain dating a transgender woman. And if I'm being honest, I think one of the reasons why for some of those guys who otherwise would is that they don't want to be shamed by other men



I did ask some people about it who are more knowledgeable about this stuff, they said it would make me transphobic, because I don't see them as a woman . The argument was that if she was perfect and you were attracted, you'd only not date her because she has a dikk - children obviously changes the game though because transgender women cannot bear children. It's a tough one to entertain, and a tough one even admitting to discussing with others on a forum like this, where anything makes you homo .

Either way, I'm at peace with being seen as transphobic by some. It's unfortunate, but I'm just not that enlightened .

A pansexual CAN be attracted to anyone but that does not mean that they ARE attracted to everyone. Yeah, guys don't want to take on that term, but that doesn't make them heterosexual. The same way DL guys don't want to call themselves bi-sexual when in fact that they are. Just because pansexuals don't like the term doesn't mean it doesn't fit.

Well, I have actually participated on a number of transgender boards since the entire Caitlyn thing happened and that have specifically come to the consensus that it does not make you transphobic to be interested in someone who does not have the genitalia that you prefer. I will like the stickied discussion. If you are not attracted to vagina or dikk, it does not make you homophobic or transphobic. That has been dismissed a stupid.

However, if she has had SRS and you still dismiss her just because she use to have a penis, that can get you labelled as transphobic especially if the motive is not related to child bearing. I choose believe multiple communities of transgenders who openly discuss these topics online.

I will tag you with multiple links.

 

[Sccit]

THAT THING HAS A DICC?

 

[mariahcooper]

but they have female secondary sexual characteristics
biological intersexed people aren't so common that people just having a natural, lifelong attraction to hermaphrodites seems feasible
being into tranny porn doesn't make me think that they are pansexual, since being pansexual means that men women and intersexed people are attractive to you and t chasers exclude cis men sexually

most trans chasers only date the ones with penises. why would you want to date a woman with a fake vagina when you can get a real one? i've even had trans women i know personally tell me that men like the fact they have penises and to keep it. you have your opinion but to most people these men aren't straight at all.

 

[Poitier]

u think he was smashing mia raw? i think so breh

"we aren't made to follow rules of basics royalty never has"


nikka talking like he a lizard person

 

[wet landscapes]

most trans chasers only date the ones with penises. why would you want to date a woman with a fake vagina when you can get a real one? i've even had trans women i know personally tell me that men like the fact they have penises and to keep it. you have your opinion but to most people these men aren't straight at all.

Skoliosexual: attracted to genderqueer and transsexual people and expressions (people who aren’t identified as cisgender)
rather than pansexual, I think this definition fits men who seek out t porn a lot more accurately

 

[mortuus est]

"we aren't made to follow rules of basics royalty never has"


nikka talking like he a lizard person

LOL breh

 

[MewTwo]

 

[SouthernBelle]

@PlutoEighth This discussion and rules about dating and transphobia was put together after many heated discussion on an actual lgbt reddit. The trans and other LGBT people largely agreed with these rules/facts about dating and transphobia and thought this should become the stickied togo post about the topic so there wouldn't be any more arguments. It has over 500 comments from the lgbt community including transgenders and people dating transgenders.

Let's start with some basics:
Things which are not transphobic:

• Not being interested in, or not dating, a specific woman who happens to be trans.
• Not being interested in, or not dating, a specific woman who does not currently have the genitalia you prefer.
• Not being interested in, or not dating, a specific woman who just doesn't catch your eye.

Things which are transphobic:

• Not being interested in, or not dating, a specific woman because she is trans.

Trans women are women. They are often indistinguishable from cis women. They can't get pregnant, but neither can almost 10% of cis women, and fortunately in a lesbian couple there's usually a womb to spare. (With enough forethought you might not need a sperm donor!) Saying you're "not attracted to trans women" as a blanket statement cannot have a basis in empirical reality, but purely in prejudice. It's not like not being attracted to redheads or blondes or butches, it's like not being attracted to immigrants, children of blue-collar workers or survivors of cancer. "Trans" is, for the numerical majority of trans women, a history which says nothing about the person.

Other common fallacies:

• I've never been attracted to a trans woman, therefore trans women aren't attractive to me.

Besides the obvious selection bias, the idea that "Trans women look like X" is where this statement goes horribly awry. Trans women look like this, and this and thousands of other beautiful women who just don't advertise their history.

If you are attracted to women, you are attracted to (some) trans women.

• Ewwww, penis!

You aren't into penii. I get it, and for what it's worth neither am I. To be fair, many trans women who carry that particular anatomical burden are not big fans of it either, so you have that in common at least. But many trans women don't, and many of those who do won't for long. Be careful about using this biased sample to rule out all trans women.

Also, would you rule someone out because she had six toes? Whenever I hear a straight man ask how sex works in the absence of a penis, I feel sorry for his girlfriends/wife, because he clearly doesn't understand how sexytimes work; when I hear a lesbian rule out trans women because of the presence of a hidden penis I feel sorry for her partner, because how superficial is that?

It's valid to be not into penii. this is, possibly, the only context in which anyone is allowed to care about a trans woman's genitalia. But say as much and don't assert that all trans women == penis. Those who aren't packing a strapless get a little annoyed by the assertion.

• Transphobia == evil/mean/bad/poopy.

Transphobia is, in the strictest sense, an "irrational fear or dislike of transgender people". "Fear" and "dislike" are subjective terms and not something you have active control over. There's no ill-intent implied here. It is not an insult to be called transphobic, any more than it is an insult to be called trans.

I'm a bit androphobic. I accept and own that, and am trying to get over it by making male friends, challenging my own emotional responses and working through trauma. It's not something I can control, but it doesn't give me the right to say "all men are evil/rapists".

In the context of attraction: if you realize you dislike or are not attracted to trans women as a rule, trumping the holistic person, it should inspire you to do a little soul searching to understand why this is so. If you can't get over it, you should recognize that it is your problem and not anyone else's. If you are fortunate enough to have a trans person in your social circle, perhaps you could even try to overcome it.

• Trans women are all X.

Trans women are all trans. Lesbians are all women who are attracted to women. This is a tautological definition, but there is no other universal quality. The moment you say (or imply) any other commonality, you're doing it wrong.

Finally, please remember:
The trans women who come in here and start these conversations are often on the most angsty leg of a very tumultuous journey. Try not to add to their fears with pedantic or broad statements about their future courtships. If you're 100% sure that you would never date a trans/black/Jewish/butch/immigrant woman, this may be a time to keep that to yourself.

When you speak up to specifically exclude trans women from your romantic prospects in a context defined by courtship (ie: LGBT spaces), you are implicitly othering them in that community. It's hard to explain why that is so, but it's impossible to ignore.

I now live in the Boston area, after four years in NYC, and there are only a few contexts in which I'm proactively stealth (as opposed to incidentally stealth, which has become the norm). The lesbian community is one, and these conversations are why. I get a little sad about that sometimes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/15ha8u/on_dating_trans_women_and_transphobia/

Based on reading this discussion and many others on the internet (they are just as open as the coli forum), no reasonable LGBT person would call a man transphobic or homophobic for not being interested in someone with a penis.

I can link other threads, discussions, and blogs from other transgender people who have beat this topic like a dead horse and all pretty much agree with the above.