Tomahawk Choppin' in Indian Village...The OFFICIAL 2013-2014 FSU Seminole Thread

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From WC updates on recruits Official Visits

Nuggets: Late night updates on official visitsReply
I'll start off with this, all the prospects went out on town for a little taste of the night life, so the main parts of the visits are over with at this stage. I'll touch on some things that I've heard for every prospect who is officially visiting and give you a few notes on some unofficial visitors that dropped by today.

Lets kick things off with the FSU commitments. I'll begin with RB Jonathan Vickers, who at first was a little stunned by the Jeremy Pruitt news, but has since back off being that worried. I believe Vickers was hosted by Nathan Andrews from what I can tell, but I'll know more tomorrow. Vickers got a chance to bond with a lot of the players. He was also shown more details about how he would be used as a big back in the FSU offense and with James Wilder departing, that only makes him want to be at FSU even more. Of course he did get beat by Trey (Fisher) in NCAA tonight and Trey talked some good trash about that. But Vickers gave off all signs that he isn't going anywhere.

Moving onto Corey Martinez, there wasn't anything to worry about here so I won't spend a lot of time on him, but he's had a great time just being around the offensive lineman and especially Coach Trickett. I'm told he (Martinez) opens up a lot around Trickett and he's having a blast just being around the team. I know Corey has put in a lot of work pushing for the uncommitted guys like Marlon Humphrey and Malik McDowell without really selling them on much about the school like a salesman. Corey simply focused on the feeling he had about FSU and why he loved it.

As I mentioned, earlier today FSU commit LB Jacob Pugh stopped by. I know he and Coach Fisher had a very good conversation that last around 25 minutes and it relieved a lot of questions that Pugh had. I don't know the specifics of what was discussed, but I'm sure it was focused on the new defensive coordinator. Obviously other schools will try to push, but this was a very good sign to get Pugh over today and then he'll officially visit again next weekend.

Much was the same of Delvin Purifoy as it was with Jonathan Vickers. Once he got on campus, there wasn't that much concern about if he would stick with his commitment. In fact, Purifoy was already talking about what number he was going to wear and asked Charles Kelly what numbers were available. His dream school has always been FSU. The one funny part on his visit was when Fisher asked if there were any concerns and Purifoy and his mother answered the same time. "No way, he wants to be at Florida State". I don't anticipate Purifoy taking any other visits at this stage barring something surprising. At least that's the impression I got.

Now we get into the big official visitors and the most likely to possibly pull the trigger this weekend is Hokies commitment Athlete Javon Harrison. He was having a blast with the other skill players much of the day. He is very tight and close with Odell, that much is crystal clear. He's also a lot like Marlon, very loose around other people. I don't know who his host was at this stage, but I do know Scotter Haggins, who is from the same area spent a lot of time with him. Harrison was the one guy that in hanging around the players acted like he was already part of the team based on the different things talked about and little comments he would say about when he got there and how FSU could go for another title.

His parents were there with him. I wouldn't be surprised if you hear something from Harrison in regards to a decision either Sunday or maybe a couple of days after. Harrison was very impressed with how he could be used in the FSU offense and he prefers offense. He's also a deadly returner on kick offs as well. Harrison spent a lot of time with Fisher on Friday night talking about the offense of FSU this season. I do know VT is expected to drop by and see him Monday, but if this visit is any indication, it might be only a matter of time before he flips to FSU.

Onto the big fish here this weekend. Not going to lie coming into this visit, I still thought it would take a lot to get five star CB Marlon Humphrey, but I get a few new details or vibes that leads me to believe Pruitt leaving is not as big as I originally thought. In fact, I would say the track program is a very, very legit thing with Marlon and those close to him tell me it's a plus to have a coach who fits his style, but not the main deal breaker at all. I've also heard while his father did play at Alabama, there are other people close to him that prefer FSU because of the bond they've built with Jimbo Fisher. Fisher has done a very good job at not mentioning how much they have to have Marlon, but focusing on relationships and what they expect from Marlon is the same as everyone else. Fisher also spent a lot of time talking with the Humphrey family about academics, family, character and why that's the first thing Fisher looks for in a player. That really won over Mrs. Humphrey. The track program was covered extensively from what I hear.

I don't really have any information about which player hosted him. I want to say Jalen Ramsey, but I haven't confirmed that. I do know Jameis Winston was in Texas spending time with his girlfriend and supporting her in a basketball game, but I am told Winston did get to spend some time with Humphrey the first day he was there. With that said, you might have noticed the comment about Humphrey saying on Twitter "Coach Fisher is running the table". That was in reference to pool where I'm told Fisher beat Marlon a couple of times and Marlon asked "aren't you going to let me win?". Fisher joked, we don't let anyone win here. Fisher then won a few more games against some other recruits, but I don't know who they were. Those close to Marlon have told me you can really see the closeness of the relationship Humphrey has with Fisher and how loose they are with each other. It felt like the same type of bond Fisher had with Winston going through the recruiting process.

Marlon is not a big talker with the media for interviews. But we will try to catch him after his visit is over. I would not say Marlon is favoring one team, but I do get the impression that if there is any coach he favors it would be Fisher based on the vibes I got tonight. I do think FSU very much has a chance and it's not nearly as far of a blow with Pruitt as I thought at this stage. Like I said before, in the beginning there are some positives I didn't know about that are aiding FSU and I get the impression from the FSU side there is still the same confidence for getting Humphrey. How strong? Not sure right now, but there is confidence.
 

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I think the prospect who is having the best time on this visit would be five-star DT/DE Malik McDowell. I think this visit has surprised him in a lot of ways about how much he likes it. McDowell is a guy that doesn't open up and he was pretty quiet when he first got to Florida State for the visit and meeting everyone. That all changed after a few minutes with Odell Haggins. One thing was sure, McDowell laughed a lot around Haggins and Mom fell in love with what she saw out of Haggins. She liked how he was always on McDowell about something, like a father figure type. I'm told McDowell's dad is the same way, so FSU did a good amount of research about would work well on this visit.

The next thing you noticed on this visit is that McDowell seemed pretty comfortable around the players and acted like he had known some of them for a while. I don't know who was hosting McDowell, but I did get confirmation that he was very loose, relaxed, much different for when he arrived at FSU a little tense and nervous to a certain extent because he's usually a quiet kid. Before this visit, it was a very tight battle with FSU and the Michigan schools. McDowell talked about what it was like for a game and even asked the players almost acting like he planned on coming back. The FSU staff showed him tape of Jernigan, Goldman and the other defensive tackles and quizzed him on what would you do on this play differently. It seemed to fuel Malik to fire back saying on one play, I would have gotten the sack there coach. Another major conversation factor on this visit was academics and FSU spent a lot of Saturday morning and afternoon focusing on this.

McDowell got a chance to meet a lot of professors from FSU and even FAMU, which has a joint program in engineering. I'm told it's been the most extensive sell on academics that the family has seen. It was extremely detailed about what is expected out of its students. His dad, who is a big FSU fan even came away much more impressed than I believe he originally thought he would about the academics at Florida State. After talking with a few people close to the situation from the FSU side, there's a very real feeling that FSU can get McDowell and they feel this weekend was "huge". We'll see how McDowell responds after the visit and we will even check further on the feelings of the visit after a day sinks in from it to see if those vibes are consistent. I think the key for the whole visit revolves around McDowell's mother. Odell spent a lot of time talking with her.

Unfortunately, I haven't heard that much about No. 1 rated DT Trenton Thompson's visit yet. But I will tell you coming into this visit, Mrs. Thompson calls Odell a lot from what one source has told me. They feel they can trust Odell and that was something FSU was working hard on so this is a significant breakthrough if the visit went well. I'll check tomorrow on him though, but that was one note I picked up on.

Finally, I found out late this evening that Jacques Patrick visited and this is important because Patrick had a 7-on-7 in Jacksonville and Patrick went out of his way to make sure he stopped by FSU today. I'm told that meeting went very well. He spent nearly an hour with Jay Graham and probably half an hour with Fisher talking about the running backs. I get the sense Patrick is close to possibly making a decision and the 'Noles are in pretty stout shape. The key is Jay Graham. He loves him, more than any coach out there I would say. If Jay tells Jacques to improve on a certain area, he does it immediately and never asks questions. I think Patrick is their top back for the 2015 class as well. I got that impression later tonight when I asked about some of the top targets and he was mentioned the most.

Here's one more note. I can say that every recruit that was either visiting or unofficially visiting got a chance to take a lot of pictures with the national title trophy. I've also been told Fisher made a point to say when one family said, well I guess you get a chance to rest now Coach. Fisher responded, at FSU we never rest. We want another one.
 

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Schedule released:

Aug. 30: Okie St (Jerry's World)
Sep. 6: Citadel
Sep. 20: Clemson
Sep. 27: @NCST
Oct. 4: Wake Forest
Oct 11: @ Syracuse
Oct 18: Notre Dame
Oct 30: @ Louisville (fukkin Thursday nite game as I predicted)
Nov 8: UVA
Nov 15: @ The "u"
Nov 22: BC
Nov 29: UF

Technically, we could have the conference wrapped up by the time we get to Louisville)....i ain't got NO worries next season
 

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Man, I have to laugh at some of our fans still stuck in the lost decade. "Oh my god, Louisville on a Thursday night!" :damn:

:stopitslime:

We're going to kick Louisville's ass.

Our schedule sets up nicely with some marquee games to showcase what we can do. The offense is going to be absolutely sick next year.
 

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Man, I have to laugh at some of our fans still stuck in the lost decade. "Oh my god, Louisville on a Thursday night!" :damn:

:stopitslime:

We're going to kick Louisville's ass.

Our schedule sets up nicely with some marquee games to showcase what we can do. The offense is going to be absolutely sick next year.
For me at least, it's not being stuck it's just that we've had some pretty memorable losses on Thurs. nights (UVA, MD and the Ville game immediately stick out)
 

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For me at least, it's not being stuck it's just that we've had some pretty memorable losses on Thurs. nights (UVA, MD and the Ville game immediately stick out)

Them days are over, brehs. Outside of the UVA loss in '95 (which wasn't a great team by FSU standards), we sucked those years. We almost lost to Iowa State in 2002. Hell, we finished with 4 losses. People make it about Thursday games, but the reality is we weren't that good.

We're going to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the country next year right off the bat. I want to see how the DT's look in the spring game before I say we're the best. But, we're significantly better than everyone on our schedule already.
 

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Schedule released:

Aug. 30: Okie St (Jerry's World)
Sep. 6: Citadel
Sep. 20: Clemson
Sep. 27: @NCST
Oct. 4: Wake Forest
Oct 11: @ Syracuse
Oct 18: Notre Dame
Oct 30: @ Louisville (fukkin Thursday nite game as I predicted)
Nov 8: UVA
Nov 15: @ The "u"
Nov 22: BC
Nov 29: UF

Technically, we could have the conference wrapped up by the time we get to Louisville)....i ain't got NO worries next season
thats a soft azz schedule
 

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thats what they gonna say but you won this year so there gonna be even more mad
we'll probably be ranked high enough that if we run thru that schedule they can't deny us....they'll try but they can't especially if lets say we're 5th and another SEC team that's not playing in the conference title game and we win ours, can't deny us. ESPN will be positioning for it too
 
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