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[The Fukin Prophecy]

Saying Manny's win over Shane is bullshyt but Floyd's isn't is logic, reason and accountability?

Where did I ever say that?

I don't care about your conversation with other nikkas, stop telling me what they said...All I'm in here doing is providing facts that Pacquiao ducked Shane...A year in boxing is a big deal breh especially for a guy in his late 30s...

 

[krackdagawd]

Where did I ever say that?

I don't care about your conversation with other nikkas, stop telling me what they said...All I'm in here doing is providing facts that Pacquiao ducked Shane...A year in boxing is a big deal breh especially for a guy in his late 30s...

Beating the guy who beat him and then beating him is NOT ducking.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Beating the guy who beat him and then beating him is NOT ducking.

This is some traight up Black Jesus shyt...

Waiting a year and for him to take two L's and not be a threat anymore is the definition of ducking and i provided proof that this was indeed the strategy they took...

 

[krackdagawd]

This is some traight up Black Jesus shyt...

Waiting a year and for him to take two L's and not be a threat anymore is the definition of ducking and i provided proof that this was indeed the strategy they took...

If Mosley wasn't a threat for Pacman then he wasn't for Floyd. Ducking is not fighting a guy at ALL. Not stopping the nikka who beat him and then dropping and beating the guy you "ducked" a year earlier.

 

[Black_Jesus]

This nikka @The Fukin Prophecy crazy as fukk accusing Shane of ducking Floyd when Shane is in a whole nother weight devision and Floyd talking bout he wanna fight the best while he has Cotto and Margerito standing right in front of him ... but Shane ducking...

Pacquiao cant even make 140, but is ducking Shane by fighting the guy who beat Shane instead?
If you wanna say Pac ducked Shane cool.... Then Floyd ducked Cotto..Margarito.. and Shane as well using your own logic

 

[Newzz]

With all due respect @krackdagawd, even though I may not agree with all you say, you speak a lot of sense and help others see things clearer without trying to belittle brehs. Hopefully you rub off on that @patscorpio dude, breh needs to be humble. Shout out to @Newzz and a slew of others who make this board what it is.

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Shane first declined fighting Floyd in 1999 than in 2006 the whole toothache, family vacation shyt happened. Shane was already talking about and in fact did move back to 147 after the Vargas fights but he wanted no parts of Mayweather.
Manny was just moving up to the WW division when he avoided Mosley and fought Cotto instead and he was above the 140 mark (144) not that Id blame him Shane in 09 would have taken Manny to the woodshed

 

[Black_Jesus]

Shane first declined fighting Floyd in 1999 than in 2006 the whole toothache, family vacation shyt happened. Shane was already talking about and in fact did move back to 147 after the Vargas fights but he wanted no parts of Mayweather.
Manny was just moving up to the WW division when he avoided Mosley and fought Cotto instead and he was above the 140 mark (144) not that Id blame him Shane in 09 would have taken Manny to the woodshed

How can you duck someone who's not in your weight class... Floyd was still a barely known featherweight in 99 while Shane was at 140 getting ready to move up in weight...

The Pacquiao that Cotto fought would've beat the dog shyt out of anyone at 147 breh you are high... Its just at the time, nobody knew how great Pac would be at that division until after the fight so they were playing it smart

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

How can you duck someone who's not in your weight class... Floyd was still a barely known featherweight in 99 while Shane was at 140 getting ready to move up in weight...

The Pacquiao that Cotto fought would've beat the dog shyt out of anyone at 147 breh you are high... Its just at the time, nobody knew how great Pac would be at that division until after the fight so they were playing it smart

Yes in 1999 he was but in 2006 they could have fought but Shane aint want it. Shane wasn't afraid of Floyd hurting him so much as getting embarrassed and outclassed. Which is exactly what ended up happening when they eventually did fight. I don't think he would have beat Shane in 2009 I think Shane would eat his ass alive and Floyd would beat Manny pillar to post just like he did JMM!

Put all the bullshyt aside, you know in the ring he had no advantage physically or mentally over Floyd. Floyd would be taller, bigger, stronger, have more reach, better footwork, body movement, a better chin, higher boxing IQ, reaction times, defense, the only thing about the same is punching power, and hand speed both of which would be nullified by the aforementioned advantages Floyd possesses over Manny. At no time in Manny's life could he beat Floyd and he knows it, Bob Arum knows it, Freddie roach knows it, the Brooklyn Brawler knows it! That's why this fight has never happened and unless Manny is willing to cash out and take a 10-2 type ass whooping, the fights never gonna happen!

 

[Black_Jesus]

Yes in 1999 he was but in 2006 they could have fought but Shane aint want it. Shane wasn't afraid of Floyd hurting him so much as getting embarrassed and outclassed. Which is exactly what ended up happening when they eventually did fight. I don't think he would have beat Shane in 2009 I think Shane would eat his ass alive and Floyd would beat Manny pillar to post just like he did JMM!

Put all the bullshyt aside, you know in the ring he had no advantage physically or mentally over Floyd. Floyd would be taller, bigger, stronger, have more reach, better footwork, body movement, a better chin, higher boxing IQ, reaction times, defense, the only thing about the same is punching power, and hand speed both of which would be nullified by the aforementioned advantages Floyd possesses over Manny. At no time in Manny's life could he beat Floyd and he knows it, Bob Arum knows it, Freddie roach knows it, the Brooklyn Brawler knows it! That's why this fight has never happened and unless Manny is willing to cash out and take a 10-2 type ass whooping, the fights never gonna happen!

But Floyd didn't know it.. if Floyd had all these physical and mental advantages, Floyd would've just stepped on the ring without demanding unlimited random blood withdrawals... Floyds daddy didnt know ot either.. Remember these quotes

My concern is for my son’s life, that’s why. If my son’s fighting that little man, I’m concerned about my son’s life. That’s what I’m telling you.

Pacquiao hits him, oh my God the smallest man in boxing, when he hits when of these big guys they’re going down—I’m telling you, they’re going down. He’s the hardest hitting man, the most fastest man, he throws more punches, thousands and thousands of punches a round. This guy man, he’s incredible. He’s got the greatest footwork, and he’s greater than Muhammad Ali

Also.. how could Floyd and Shane fought in 2006.. when Floyd was fighting Zab Judah and talking about retiring during the post fight press conference after he fought Baldomir for that title all while Shane is in another division? Also.. Shane fought twice that year in 06 and said he would step in the ring any time after 06.. why did it take Floyd 4 years to finally fight the aging mosely?

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Before the Floyd fight Shane was going life and death with Mayorga nikka, Mayorga

Yet you don't hear ANYONE giving Floyd shyt for fighting a past it Shane

So Manny fights the guy that beat Shane and then fights Shane but he gets shyt for it

Floyd/Shane Manny/Shane wasn't even a year apart man

To these clowns, that one year, was apparently in dog years. But to hear them tell it, "Shane Mosley just came off of an impressive knockout of Margarito when he fought Floyd". The span between the Margarito and Floyd fights, was 16 months. The span between Floyd fighting Shane and Manny fighting Shane, was 12 months. Its as if these guys don't even think out their arguments.
Regarding your first statement, Shane was actually about to draw with Mayorga if he didn't get that last second KO. Which leads me to this. That KO, happened with less than 5 seconds on the clock. Richard Steele was right in stopping Meldrick Taylor. But thats for another thread.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Thanks for posting the vid and proving my point clown... Shane who was at 154, and who had fought twice that year said that he would fight Floyd at 147 anytime next year... Floyd annonces his retirement. Want me to post that vid??

Another thing people seem to forget is this. Oscar De La Hoya. He is the face of Golden Boy. There is no way anyone other than he was going to get first crack at Floyds undefeated streak, hence the toothache excuse.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

But Floyd didn't know it.. if Floyd had all these physical and mental advantages, Floyd would've just stepped on the ring without demanding unlimited random blood withdrawals... Floyds daddy didnt know ot either.. Remember these quotes






Also.. how could Floyd and Shane fought in 2006.. when Floyd was fighting Zab Judah and talking about retiring during the post fight press conference after he fought Baldomir for that title all while Shane is in another division? Also.. Shane fought twice that year in 06 and said he would step in the ring any time after 06.. why did it take Floyd 4 years to finally fight the aging mosely?

[Floyd]We know Shanes old now.[/Mayweather]

 

[krackdagawd]

Put all the bullshyt aside, you know in the ring he had no advantage physically or mentally over Floyd. Floyd would be taller, bigger, stronger, have more reach, better footwork, body movement, a better chin, higher boxing IQ, reaction times, defense, the only thing about the same is punching power, and hand speed both of which would be nullified by the aforementioned advantages Floyd possesses over Manny. At no time in Manny's life could he beat Floyd

I agree with this 100% but that doesn't mean I'm giving Floyd an automatic W without him earning it.

 

[patscorpio]

With all due respect @krackdagawd, even though I may not agree with all you say, you speak a lot of sense and help others see things clearer without trying to belittle brehs. Hopefully you rub off on that @patscorpio dude, breh needs to be humble. Shout out to @Newzz and a slew of others who make this board what it is.

now why would acting like krack be a plus to me? ...i know krack knows what he's talking about and vice versa..you know what youre talking about and chances are i wont say anything ..thats not going to change breh...welcome to the ring