Today I learned that Mexican Americans fought AGAINST being called Mexican in the 1930s census and wanted to be WHITE

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They are a mutt race and they worship whiteness, always had.

Remember when the Spaniards first landed in latin america, the indigenous there supposedly worshipped them as gods. Granted thats the victors talking
Right, so they probably deserved the systematic annihilation of their culture, history and identity, huh?

In the time preceding cortez’ arrival, a number of misfortunes had befallen the empire. Their mythology did contain a legend of a white skinned god that would herald the apocalypse. Montezuma, who was the emperor and highly superstitious, first tried to assuage his fears by giving the Spaniards gold and jewels, but as history has made clear, the white man’s greed knows no boundaries…
 

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They are a mutt race and they worship whiteness, always had.

Remember when the Spaniards first landed in latin america, the indigenous there supposedly worshipped them as gods. Granted thats the victors talking

They were very much a Babylonian society before the European came and that's why the Europeans worked with them so much. They had that in common. Roman Catholicism is a Babylonian religion. It's not Christianity. They are lying to your face with that to make it acceptable to ignorant people. The indigenous around Mexico were on the same type of time. That's why you have Roman Catholic temples on top of pyramids. They mix every religion they can into Roman Catholicism to ultimately form Mystery Babylon.
 

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Right, so they probably deserved the systematic annihilation of their culture, history and identity, huh?

In the time preceding cortez’ arrival, a number of misfortunes had befallen the empire. Their mythology did contain a legend of a white skinned god that would herald the apocalypse. Montezuma, who was the emperor and highly superstitious, first tried to assuage his fears by giving the Spaniards gold and jewels, but as history has made clear, the white man’s greed knows no boundaries…

Not at all,

He should have wiped them out immediately when the Spaniards stepped foot on the coast, Just how like he would have done a fellow indigenous tribe
 

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Nap, stick to the Democrat shilling and spamming. Quit trying to agitate a race war you stupid bytch.

Yes, LULAC went the route of assimilation. This is well known. They carried out a policy of teaching migrants English in an attempt at helping them integrate into society much easier. To them, being white wasn’t so much an honor as you stupidly implied, it was a means of circumventing the discrimination american-born and undocumented laborers faced. Do I agree with that? fukk no, but in the context of the times I consider it progressive. These weren’t revolutionaries, they were trying to work within the legal framework of the country for the betterment of their people and offered healthcare, legal and educational services.

Keep in mind, this designation of white did jack shyt to ameliorate the plight of migrant workers and Mexican-Americans. In spite of a government initiative to subsidize a depleted workforce during World War Two(bracero program), the American government commenced with operation wetback and cruelly deported those same workers they welcomed in the first place.

In 1954 the Supreme Court passed judgement on Hernandez vs Texas. This case centered around Pete Hernandez, who was found guilty of murdering another man and sentenced to life imprisonment. However, it was soon revealed that he had been subject to an all-white jury, not one of his peers. Civil rights lawyers took this to the Supreme Court and per the Library of Congress:

“Despite more than 100 years of citizenship rights under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848) and post WWII integration into the local economy, Mexicans Americans in Texas endured segregation in systemic jury discrimination, which reached a climax in 1951 with the Hernandez case. Despite being 14% of Edna's population, no Mexican American had executed their citizenship rights as jury commissioners, petit jurors, or grand jurors in over 50 Texas counties with a predominant Mexican American population since 1926. The lawyers claimed that the all Anglo-Saxon jury, which indicted Hernandez, denied him his equal protection under the 14th Amendment.”

Furthermore, this is the same LULAC that fought on behalf of Mexican American veterans. In 1949, a funeral parlor in three rivers, Texas refused to hold a wake for Felix Longoria, who died in World War Two during a military operation in the Philippines. They also suggested burying him in a segregated section of the cemetery, in fear of angering the locals who had a very specific view of what constitutes as white. Things became so heated that Lyndon Johnson worked on LULACs behalf and secured a spot in Arlington national cemetery, making Felix Longoria the first Mexican American to receive such an honor.

You are offering a very myopic and revisionist history here. Stick to the bullshyt your cutouts give you and leave the racial bullshyt to the rest of these fuxktards. If you would like to know more I have no problem spotting game. Mexican history in this country is relatively obscured, which is no surprise as it has been systematically destroyed since the Spanish first touched down in mexico.
#triggered
 

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I don't understand why Indian food gets the hate it does....everytime I suggest it people hit me with the :mjtf:
that shyt hits. they invited a lot of spices it makes sense. If y'all have never tried it I suggest a lunch buffet. just sample everything thats how I got put on.


butter chicken/tika masala :noah:
 

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Right, so they probably deserved the systematic annihilation of their culture, history and identity, huh?

In the time preceding cortez’ arrival, a number of misfortunes had befallen the empire. Their mythology did contain a legend of a white skinned god that would herald the apocalypse. Montezuma, who was the emperor and highly superstitious, first tried to assuage his fears by giving the Spaniards gold and jewels, but as history has made clear, the white man’s greed knows no boundaries…
"Their" culture? They are half white. Their culture is spaniard culture. What is left of any true indengenous is probably self segregated in villages and they probably still do have a decent amount of their culture.
 

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But bu bu..

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Had to deal with this a few days ago. A ten minute trip to the Union League turned into four hours stuck in standstill traffic.

If y'all love Mexico so much why are y'all here again and still coming???


Caribbean immigrants and descendants don't even do this enmass in NYC.
 
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I can see that.

(Anecdotally) In LA, I know several Mexican girls that tell me their family would LOVE for them to marry a white dude. I was surprised to hear that.
Mejorar la Raza....improve the race.

They prefer their girls to marry a white Canelo Alvarez type Latino first....but after that, it's a white non-Spanish dude.

Notice how Asian and Latinas won't even fukk with a Greek or Italian white dude. They go for the most Anglo-Saxon white dude possible. It's not enough to be "white"....he gotta be WHITE preferably WASP.
 

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STOP FUKKING SPAMMING!!

acting like you are on the side of Native Black Americans.
 

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After leaked racist audio, this L.A. band's love song to Oaxaca lights up TikTok​


Carlos De Loera
Fri, October 14, 2022 at 6:59 PM·7 min read
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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - JANUARY 21: Las Cafeteras at Proximity Greenhouse on January 21, 2020 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Ella Hovsepian/Getty Images)

Las Cafeteras performs in January 2020 in Los Angeles. (Ella Hovsepian / Getty Images)


She called them "dark little people," adding "tan feos" ("they're ugly") and claimed she didn't know where they came from.

Former L.A. City Council President Nury Martinez's recently leaked racist remarks about Oaxacans living in Los Angeles sparked a major backlash this week that led to her resignation Wednesday.
Martinez's comments employed stereotypes that have long been used against Oaxacans in Mexico and in the United States.

The L.A. Chicano band Las Cafeteras, which formed in 2005 and fuses folk music with spoken word, was horrified by Martinez's comments and wanted to remind fans of Oaxaca's beauty with its 2021 song "Oaxaca Love Song No2."
So on Wednesday, the band shared the song in a TikTok video, which has more than 90,000 views. "While Latino politicians hate on Indigenous Oaxacans ... we wrote a love song to them," the accompanying text reads.
"En Oaxaca todo brilla y se come con tortilla," singer Hector Flores proudly belts out at the end of the video, which is a snippet of the track's music video. "Everything shines in Oaxaca and you eat using a tortilla."
Most of the comments below the video expressed love and support for Oaxaca and its people.
"As a Oaxaqueña, I love this," @yeya.25 wrote in the TikTok comments.
@millennialtrapped wrote, "love to Oaxaca from a Zacatecan," referring to people from the Mexican state of Zacatecas.
"We used to go to Juquila, Oaxaca every summer and loved driving through the hills, all natural beauty," reminisced @heathercar_16.
"Que viva Oaxaca!" @serengarr simply, yet proudly proclaimed.

"I feel like the [leaked] recordings have created, for better or for worse, a new day in Los Angeles," Flores, of Las Cafeteras, told The Times. "And it's now our responsibility, I think, as people of color, specifically Mexicans, Chicanos and Latinos to really take this as an opportunity to do better — to be better."
In the song, Flores — an East L.A. native of Mexican descent who describes himself as an organizer, activist and artist — incorporated elements of '60s psychedelic, big band, folk music and son jarocho (regional folk music from the Mexican state of Veracruz).
The track goes on to describe Flores' experience of eating "tacos de quesito" (cheese tacos) and "tlayudas" (a regional dish of Oaxaca) and the beautiful things of Oaxaca, from its people to its land.

Flores' description of Oaxacan beauty stands in direct contrast to Martinez's insidious comments, which the musician noted are not uncommon in the Latino community.
"You can't talk about Nury without talking about the elephant in the room — she's not the only one," he said, adding that Martinez and fellow L.A. City Councilmembers Kevin de León and Gil Cedillo are "examples of what will continue to happen if we do not do the work we need to do internally and externally.
A woman wearing white speaks into a microphone

Los Angeles City Council President and 6th district representative Nury Martinez resigned this week after leaked audio revealed that she and several other Latino councilmembers made racist remarks about several minority groups in the city. (Al Seib/Los Angeles Times)

The 40-year-old musician acknowledged that even though there are many great parts of Mexican culture, there are "toxic" aspects as well. White supremacy, he said, has as much of a stronghold on Mexico as it does the United States.

"Racism, colorism, homophobia, patriarchy are long-standing values of Mexicans and therefore, also become long-standing values for Mexican Americans. ... In Mexico, there's racism against Indigenous folks, the caste system of colonialism is still so intact."

Los Angeles is home to one of the largest Oaxacan communities outside of Mexico. Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, a professor at UCLA’s Department of Chicana and Chicano Studies, estimated that there are as many as 200,000 Zapotecs — the largest Indigenous group from Oaxaca — living in Los Angeles County. As early as the 1940s, Oaxacan immigrants came to the United States in search of better wages and jobs, working in agriculture through the bracero program. Oaxaca, located in southern Mexico, is one of the country's poorest states, but the people have deeply influenced U.S. culture and food and helped to shape Los Angeles.

Oaxacans in Mexico have long faced prejudice and struggle to be represented. After Yalitza Aparicio became the first Indigenous woman of Mexico to be nominated for an Oscar for lead actress in the 2018 movie “Roma,” she faced a wave of vitriol from other Mexican celebrities, calling the actor "fea" ("ugly") and an "india" ("Indian," derogatorily)..
The members of Las Cafeteras aren't the only Angelenos defending Oaxacans. There will be a march for Oaxacan justice this Saturday in Los Angeles. The procession, which begins at noon at the Los Angeles Trade Technical College, will be a celebration of Oaxacan culture and an opportunity for Angelenos to stand in solidarity with the city's sizable Oaxacan community.

"I'd be lying if I said I didn't have family members who haven't said such things like this," Flores said of Martinez's incendiary comments. "And I feel like for Latinos, we think that [confronting racism] just has to apply to all white folks ... No, we need to understand [our racism] as much as anybody else — the Mexican community, as much as anybody else."
In a Wednesday Instagram post, Las Cafeteras expanded on the message presented in "Oaxaca Love Song No2."
"Last year we wrote a Love Song ❤️ to Oaxaca called 'Oaxaca Love Song #2' — for our love of the culture, food and Indigenous resiliency of Oaxacan peoples…the culture is so strong in Cali that folks coined the term OaxaCalifornia ❤️ Check out the music video which begins with @ponchostlayudas speaking in Zapotec — one of the Indigenous languages of Oaxaca!...Que Viva #Oaxaca #ResignNow #OaxaCalifornia #tlayudas #porvida"

Flores, who was inspired to write the song while taking a trip to Oaxaca in 2018, told The Times he added the "No2" in the track's title because he knows he'll never be the one to write the best love letter to the Mexican state.
"The reason I call it number two is because I'm not Oaxacan, and there's no way a non-Oaxacan will ever write the best Oaxacan love song. So the best I can ever hope is to be number two," he said
"You ain't gotta be from a place to uplift, a place, a people, a culture," Flores said.
When constructing the track's music video, Flores and the band wanted to craft something that felt truly Oaxacan.
"So we started [the video] off with Poncho from Poncho's Tlayudas, who sells the best tlayudas in L.A. out of his backyard in South L.A. every Friday night. And we wanted him to introduce the video in Zapotec," he said. "That was a way for us to give a nod to the native languages that are still be spoken in L.A. A nod to people doing Oaxacan organizing and chefs in L.A., you know, by non-Oaxacans, such as myself."
"Silence is as much a killer than anything, right, like silence will do as much to erase a culture as words can," Flores said. "And so I feel like when we don't hear it, then we almost think it don't exist."
"Oaxacan Love Song No2" isn't the band's only foray into activist messaging. Their 2012 song "It's Movement Time" documents what Flores calls "Black and brown solidarity" in both Mexico and the United States. The group's 2017 track "If I Was President" imagines the United States run with less corruption and more empathy and solidarity.
"For this video to get some love now in a time where Oaxacan folks are being bashed, hated on, it's like, 'No, uh-uh, let's show the love,'" Flores said of the song's spike in popularity. "Because I think right now a lot of people are highlighting the divisions. But it takes one bad thing to overshadow 10 good things. You know, and that's just the reality of our world."
This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.
 
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