To Fly You Must Have Wings: The 2012 T'Wolves Offseason Thread II

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nothing has fully happened yet. That being said, if they're actually close to getting rid of Wes, vaya con dios smiley. I have no idea what we'd be getting back, but all these little deals are fine, but they have to have a reason behind them. They better make a move.

I endorse an AK47 signing for what it's worth.

And I hope Doogie's right. If it's Landry and hopefully Aminu coming back, they can have 2 picks goddammit.
 

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i pray we do.

Forget Rush. Don't give up a first rounder to go sign a guy that will get matched. Rush ain't that good. Better off keeping Wes and declining his option while keeping him pinned to a bench for a year.


Now if we go get AK47, I beg of them, trade Derrick. I don't wanna have to keep looking at him and then feel sorry for him that he's in this position.
 

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Forget Rush. Don't give up a first rounder to go sign a guy that will get matched. Rush ain't that good. Better off keeping Wes and declining his option while keeping him pinned to a bench for a year.


Now if we go get AK47, I beg of them, trade Derrick. I don't wanna have to keep looking at him and then feel sorry for him that he's in this position.

:sadbron: Ah man I just want a starting SG, I have faith in Roy Im just trying keeping my expectations to a minimum.

And I agree, as much as I love d will he would have to go.
 

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Shved conference call was today. He's gonna wear #1. That must mean Derrick Williams will move to #23 once Roy gets his #7 back

AP in New Orleans is saying the deal is done. Minny in the 3 team deal trades Memphis' first rounder for Jerome Dyson and 2 2nd rounders from New Orleans. In essence we traded Wes and moved down 10-15 spots in the '13 draft in the process

Y FUERA! Y FUERA! Y FUERA! Y FUERA!
 

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Minnesota is finalizing a two-year, $20 million contract with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league sources tell Y! Sports.
 

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how the hell are the wolves able to get brad millers contract back so quickly? please explain

we didn't get his contract back in the trade. That's not even legal.

AK47's deal has a player option for year 2.

C Pekovic /Stiemsma
PF Love /Williams /Cunningham
SF Kirilenko /Budinger
SG Shved /Roy /Lee
PG Rubio /Ridnour /Barea


I can't believe it. In one offseason, the T'wolves got rid of every crappy player on the team. This falls in line with what Kahn said at the beginning of the season. He said aside from Love and Rubio he only expected 5 or 6 players back.

Pekovic, Williams, Lee, Ridnour, Barea. That's your 5.

Blanco Boyz! Cream Team (pause)! The light at the end of the tunnel :skip:
 

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Apparently this is just about it. They might go and get another big, but this is gonna be the squad come training camp.

Dante Cunningham is not going anywhere. He's here to be here.

I'm surprised they're not moving Luke or JJ considering one of them will be third string with not many SG minutes once Ricky returns.

I'm hoping if they sign a big that we get a young shotblocker, and when I say young, I mean a guy that we can get for cheap that can be a younger Stiemsma. That could be Easley from Summer League, Othello Hunter, just someone that we can develop so that going forward, we can have a live body that can produce efficiently at a cheap rate. We have I believe 13 officially on the roster.
 

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I don't know...on paper the team looks talented but it seems too many things have to go perfect for the Wolves to compete.

Rubio needs to be able to play major minutes and stay healthy.
Pek needs to improve on last year and stay healthy.
Roy has to stay healthy.
AK-47 will need to play great perimeter D and score 12-16 a game and make open 3's.

2 of 4 happening seems realistic but still a bit hopeful. I don't trust Kahn but they have a shot.
 

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I don't know...on paper the team looks talented but it seems too many things have to go perfect for the Wolves to compete.

Rubio needs to be able to play major minutes and stay healthy.
Pek needs to improve on last year and stay healthy.
Roy has to stay healthy.
AK-47 will need to play great perimeter D and score 12-16 a game and make open 3's.

2 of 4 happening seems realistic but still a bit hopeful. I don't trust Kahn but they have a shot.

No matter what they did it was gonna come down to Ricky's health. If he's healthy, we can make the playoffs, regardless of everything else. We trotted out rosters starting Martell Webster, Wes Johnson, Wayne Ellington, Luke Ridnour, etc. and were above .500 for the first time in 5 years. All I asked was that they improve the wing situation and get a rim protector. They did that and more. Now there are more specialists on the team who need to perform specific tasks.

Budinger- run the floor and shoot that corner 3.

Stiemsma- block shots and use those 6 fouls.

Barea- instant offense

Derrick Williams- try to be a big time scorer off the bench.

AK- mask Love on D.

Roy- have a pulse. Honestly the biggest wildcard is gonna be Shved. He could either transition smoothly to the NBA like Rubio or look absolutely lost. Long term, they're banking a lot on his ability to shoot and drive to the hoop.

If there's anything worth noting, Rick is down with a lot of these moves. If you can't trust Kahn, fine, but I trust Rick and his ability to get these guys to mesh well. He didn't come here to lose and the way this team has upgraded, I'm not so sure he will lose.
 

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Wolfson: Roster likely set after Wolves paid big for Andrei Kirilenko | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers)
It's not Nic Batum, Pau Gasol or Andre Iguodala, but the Minnesota Timberwolves made the long-discussed, singular big move on Wednesday.

A high-level Wolves source confirmed on Wednesday night the team has a verbal agreement with free agent Andrei Kirilenko on a two-year, $20 million deal that includes a player option for 2013-14.

The source fully acknowledged that "it's too much money." But the best way to lure above-average unrestricted free agents is to win a bidding war, so that's what Wolves president of basketball operations David Kahn did.

The source said that back-and-forth wasn't with the Golden State Warriors or any other NBA team. It was with CSKA Moscow. Kirilenko was seriously wrestling with whether he wanted to leave the Russian team he played for last year.

Before a few days ago, the Wolves had made no contact with Kirilenko. Keep in mind the Wolves called on double-digit free agents from July 1 through July 4. Kirilenko only became an option when the Batum attempt failed.

It was Kahn who made the initial phone call to Kirilenko's agent, but coach Rick Adelman was on board. This move has equal fingerprints on it.


To create the necessary cap space, the Wolves will send wing Wesley Johnson and a future first-round pick to Phoenix in a three-team trade. The selection will likely be Memphis' pick, which the Wolves got via Houston. It has lottery protection through 2016.

As of late Wednesday night, the deal was not ready to be sent into the league office. The Wolves are expected to get two future second-round picks from New Orleans plus guard Jerome Dyson, who is just a throw-in.

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• When asked if Kirilenko, Brandon Roy, Greg Stiemsma, Alexey Shved and Dante Cunningham would complete the offseason transactions, the source said, "I think we're done" -- but was quick to add that it's fluid, because Kahn loves talking to agents and a big man could still be needed. Free agents Carl Landry and Anthony Tolliver are still on their radar.

• The source had a strong feeling that Kahn will move a point guard, likely Luke Ridnour, before the start of the 2013-14 season. The Wolves could be busy again at the February trade deadline.

• The Wolves never made a serious run at restricted free agent Brandon Rush.


• While there has been social-media chatter about the Wolves not keeping Cunningham, the source said that has not come up internally. He fills a need.

• The Wolves never made a formal offer for Courtney Lee because the price was too high. Kahn and Lee's agent, Stu Lash, spoke face-to-face in Las Vegas, so Kahn knew exactly what Lee wanted. Lee ended up in Boston on a four-year, $21.5 million deal.

• Kahn had initiated text-message contact with free agent Jodie Meeks' agent in the last two days. But a source close to Meeks said on Wednesday night that Meeks is now off the Wolves' radar. He will sign soon with an Eastern Conference team.

• There is internal fear the Blazers next summer will extend an offer sheet to restricted free agent Nikola Pekovic.

So for everyone asking why they overpaid, there's your answer.
 

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Schedule is officially out

Scores and Schedules | NBA.com

National games (ESPN, TNT)

12/20 OKC at MIN TNT
1/17 LAC at MIN TNT
2/6 SA at MIN ESPN
2/22 MIN at OKC ESPN
2/28 MIN at LAL TNT

NBA TV
11/4 MIN at TOR
11/5 MIN at BK
11/28 MIN at LAC
2/2 NO at MIN
3/2 MIN at POR
3/4 MIA at MIN
3/10 DAL at MIN
3/15 MIN at HOU

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