Perfectson
Banned
you just pulled a white boy on me, now i look like an even bigger a$$hole. Screw all of you
*takes ball and goes home*
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you just pulled a white boy on me, now i look like an even bigger a$$hole. Screw all of you
*takes ball and goes home*
This is what concerns me. Conor will never be the same after this fight imo. Especially if it goes like people expect. U don't just bounce back from a beating. Paulie said he's going to be assaulted
I guarantee you he will fight again. Conor is one of the most mentally tough fighters in history.
I really would like to see him vs. Khabib.
Perfectson
Banned
Damn boxing fans so in their feelings it's funny as an outsider
Not saying they're wrong bout anything it's just funny how OD smug they're being as the fight gets closer.
We're always "OD smug" when it comes to comparing The Sweet Science to a primitive sport such as MMA
Yall are about to see, 1st hand, that a guy who's called an "elite stand up fighter" in MMA is nothing but a bum when it really comes to stand up fighting, and that watching so much UFC has watered down yall's vision as to what a top stand up fighter really looks like
#TheSweetScience
Not saying you wrong, just funny as an observer.We're always "OD smug" when it comes to comparing The Sweet Science to a primitive sport such as MMA
Yall are about to see, 1st hand, that a guy who's called an "elite stand up fighter" in MMA is nothing but a bum when it really comes to stand up fighting, and that watching so much UFC has watered down yall's vision as to what a top stand up fighter really looks like
There's a lot of people in their feelings over this shyt on some "how dare you let the new kid sit at the cool table"
is the geovanti davis fight off?
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
We're always "OD smug" when it comes to comparing The Sweet Science to a primitive sport such as MMA
Yall are about to see, 1st hand, that a guy who's called an "elite stand up fighter" in MMA is nothing but a bum when it really comes to stand up fighting, and that watching so much UFC has watered down yall's vision as to what a top stand up fighter really looks like
#TheSweetScience
Floyd is beyond nice with his hands, jury is still out on Conor. Even then, floyd is a cheat code. He will take care of business tonight.
If he gets dominated and embarrassed, his stock drops. His leverage reduces. My conspiracy theory is this is what the ufc wants. Him to get embarrassed and they can build him back up. Nobody will pay to see him box again if he gets KO'd or TKOd or just outclassed for 12 rnds. He has to look competent and competitive, which will be damn near impossible vs Floyd. Van Heerden toyed wit him
Nah, since this is boxing and not the UFC, Mayweather has much more to lose than McGregor going into this fight. Mayweather is 49-0, and is touted as one of the greatest in this era of boxing.McGregor is a MMA fighter bout to go into his first pro boxing match. He is a fish out of water, out of his element and the odds are stacked against him. If he loses, most people will just just shrug it off because this isn't Conor's playing ground.
It is however Mayweather's. If the best boxer in current history is defeated by a MMA guy coming in green as hell with a 0-0 record, it would make the entire sport and it's champion look like a joke.
Conor has 1 punch...a straight left. After the first 3 pull counters that Floyd lands, that will be taken off the menu for McGregor, and the all-out "there's nothing you can do about it" ass whopping commences
BlackManLiveFromLondon
New God
MoroccanBoy
Madness
Conor was an amateur boxer for years before he even started mma. He grew up competing in boxing. And his basic amateur boxing background alowed him to dominate in the standup of mma. Ever since the art jimmerson ufc 1 fight boxing has been abandoned by mma fighters for being inferior. But the minute any of them actually train in a boxing gym they dominate the stand up. 
Remember when anderson silva used basic head movement against bums like forest griffin, rich Franklin etc. people thought it was some alien never seen before shyt
Remember when anderson silva used basic head movement against bums like forest griffin, rich Franklin etc. people thought it was some alien never seen before shyt
this fool rooting for Conor because of "national pride" even though the sport of boxing which he also does would be fukked at least temporarily if McGregr would wi somehow...
smh
I don't think he thought that tweet through.
I mean if a 0-0 MMA guy can come in and defeat the top dog with no pro boxing experience, what does that say about the sport as a whole?
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor -- The Final Analysis | BoxingInsider.com
By Charles Jay
Back in December 1993, there was a one-night 16-man heavyweight tournament taking place at what was then Casino Magic in Mississippi. One of the competitors who was signed into the field was a guy named Joe Savage, who was billed as “the bare knuckle champion of Great Britain.” He had a look that was menacing enough for the occasion. Reportedly he had won 42 fights in a row on that underground circuit. Legendary stuff, right?
Well, they were on a press tour to promote this event, which was being peddled on pay-per-view, and on the tour’s stop in Los Angeles some of the tournament entrants, two of whom were former heavyweight champions, decided they wanted to find a gym so they could work out. Everybody went over there, and the ex-champs (Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tubbs) wound up in a sparring session. Savage watched this, apparently in horror. He didn’t realize it was like THAT. Shortly thereafter, the story goes, he pulled out of the tournament, claiming injury. The next time – and the last time – he was seen was in April 1994, as he went to Canada for his pro boxing debut against Bert Cooper. He came out aggressively, but about a minute later courtesy of a few Cooper lefts and rights, his professional boxing career was over, just like that.
It’ll be a fortunate turn for those plunking down upwards of a hundred bucks on pay-per-view that Conor McGregor isn’t likely to experience that kind of rude awakening in HIS pro boxing debut, but make no mistake about the fact that when he steps in with Floyd Mayweather, it’s going to be a vastly different universe for him.
At the same time, even the most severe McGregor critics shouldn’t kid themselves; he may not be a professional boxer, but he isn’t a non-fighter either. One of the more insightful things that has been said about him came from Freddie Roach, who asserted that while it would be almost impossible to get McGregor ready for a real pro fight within three or four months, he might be able to do it in three years. I don’t think that was meant as an insult; any boxer who is starting a pro career is going to take at least a few years to be legitimately competitive at the main event level.
We can’t say that McGregor would ever be ready for a guy like Mayweather, no matter what he did, but he does have some of the basic rudiments of a successful hands-only fighter. For example, he has natural power in that left hand, and that isn’t something you can teach just anybody. It can, under certain conditions, be a great “equalizer.” An if there is a remote chance for him to make some noise, that’s how he’s going to do it.
Is it enough of a chance to justify a wager at 4-1, 6-1 or even 10-1? No, he might be able to make a credible showing, relative to expectations, but there are fundamental barriers to victory that he is going to be facing; barriers that are going to be too much to overcome.
In boxing, defense really counts for a little more than it might in MMA. And Andre Berto, the last man to fight Mayweather, had a few interesting things to say about what to expect. For instance, he points out that while most boxers – including himself – think about mounting and sustaining an offense first and foremost, while Mayweather is of the “defense first” philosophy. As such, he is making himself hard to hit and exercising patience, as he waits for the opponent to make a mistake, at which time he can capitalize.
And what might a first-time pro boxer, with no competitive experience other than as a junior in the amateurs, be expected to do when he is in there with a mulitple world champion?
That’s right – make mistakes. In fact, more than usual, we’d suggest.
Also, although strikes (punches) are a legitimate part of mixed martial arts, the fighters in MMA are not necessarily conditioned to throw jabs as a principal part of their arsenal. That is not a criticism of them; it’s just not something that is really necessary to control the action. And if you’ve been around boxing, you notice that the first thing an amateur is taught is how to throw the jab, which is hailed by responsible teachers as the most important punch in boxing. If you haven’t been around the sport, just ask a trainer about it.
The jab can serve to open things up for all other punches that follow. And it takes months and months to learn how to throw effectively and consistently. Believe me, the jab is not going to be a weapon for Conor McGregor in this fight. That right hook comes across slowly. When it gets down to it, the key is landing that left hand. Gee, do you think that Floyd knows this? Frankly, McGregor’s chances are predicated on Mayweather making himself available to be hit, when you think about it. If the only thing Floyd has to worry about is the left hand, it makes McGregor, by definition, a one-dimensional fighter. In other words, it makes him rather tailor-made for a defense-first fighter who is pretty good at it. And Mayweather did a smart thing coming in at 149.5 pounds, as speed and quickness are going to be the operative factors for him.
It might be as simple as Mayweather continually moving to his left against someone with no schooling in terms of cutting off the ring. We’re not talking about Floyd running, mind you, but just exhibiting even subtle movement, which would have the effect of making McGregor lunge and miss and throw himself off-balance while he’s doing it. And of course, if Mayweather, who turns defense into offense, lands counter punches, he’ll do anything he wants from there. And we may be giving McGregor too much credit by assuming he’ll hang in long enough to allow Mayweather’s advantages to take their cumulative effect.
So what could McGregor do to stick around for a while, if we were advising him?
Well, he could be as awkward and unorthodox as he could possibly be, remembering that Mayweather had a hard time with an unconventional guy like Marcos Maidana, at least the first time they fought. That might make HIM harder to hit, and allow him to throw from angles Mayweather hasn’t, as a matter of routine, been accustomed to. From this standpoint, it is probably best that he did not bring in a conventional boxing trainer, because Floyd would most certainly enjoy seeing someone in front of him who is trying to be conventional.
He could constantly be on the move, in an attempt to make Mayweather pursue him. And then his game plan would be to pop in with the left hand, again from odd angles. OR he could try to make Mayweather work three minutes of every round, by crowding him and rough-housing him, with little concern about getting points deducted, as long as he isn’t inspired to start kicking or head-butting (for which he could incur a heavy financial penalty).
Do you know what has the potential of thwarting all of these grandiose game plans? A legitimate ring general, with twenty years of pro experience. Could that, by chance, be Floyd Maywweather?
Look – McGregor’s opponents are great athletes, but, by and large, they aren’t all that well-schooled in defending strikes, not are they jabbers or deft counter-punchers. And it goes without saying that they don’t have the shoulder roll and the check hook and all the other nuances that Conor will see, perhaps for the first time in his life.
This is a whole new world, and it promises to be a world of trouble. And it is hard to fathom that McGregor could stand up for a dozen rounds under championship boxing conditions, regardless of how “light” a puncher Floyd is perceived to be. And do you think Mayweather would want to leave anything in the hands of the judges if he doesn’t have to?
If you’re the sporting type (i.e., if you’re betting), you can lay a price of about -150 (3-to-2), or maybe a little higher, that Mayweather ends this inside the distance. And even if you lay anywhere from -500 to -600 on Mayweather (and please allow for a higher price) for a win – however it comes – you’ve got value.
Recently I was on a radio show discussing this fight, and the host had most obviously been sold on McGregor – perhaps by twenty seconds of sparring footage with a retired fighter (Paulie Malignaggi) that was carefully cherry-picked, then released. This host really couldn’t explain how McGregor could realistically win, but was quick to point out how Miguel Cotto hit Mayweather a number of times. I want to be polite in circumstances like this; I didn’t want to grill him with questions like “What makes you think McGregor, a noviec boxer, will hit him as many times as Cotto?” At the conclusion, as I was bid adieu, the host went to his commercial talking disdainfully about those of the “boxing culture” and the “arrogance” about the attitude they all seem to have toward an MMA fighter entering their arena.
And I was thinking that it might be kind of arrogant when you continue to deny what all the boxing people are trying to say to you.
Well guess what? Maybe – just maybe – those boxing folk DO know what they’re talking about.
Check back tomorrow, if you’re still out there.
well macgregor walked dude to his first professional fight so their buddies