Time to dead the Aaliyah was a “whisper singer” non sense

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I think Miguel is more talented.

they have different strengths.. Miguel is by far the better lyricist and overall composer, Tank is more melodious (he creates better melodies) and vocal producer/arranger..Tank really understands the structure and make-up of traditional RnB music.. Miguel is more ambious in his experimentation and it shines more in this alt.. ambiant low-fi RnB landscape.
 

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Both got songs I like, Mariah in particular, but you're right, there's def a gay vibe to some of their music lol. I wonder why that is. Both are kinda "theatrical" I guess. :dame::dead:

It's not necessarily gay.. Beyonce in particular makes a CONSCIOUS effort to cater her music to women and their experiences. She's been consistent in this throughout her entire career even in Destiny's Child. It has a lot to do with her mom owning a hair solon and her always being surrounded by 'powerful' women. Her work is niche in the fact that it's always had this 'feminist' vibe to it.. she's never shy-ed away from this and openly talks about being the mouthpiece for black women in culture.. so much that at one point people thought she had a vendetta against men.

Mariah's music is just really really feminine.. she didn't have a real musical identity (neither did Whitney) until maybe around 97 with that Butterfly record..
 

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during my clubbing days.. after the bar driving home drunk and slushy.. I'd always play some calm, soothing Rnb vibes.
This was always a go-to

I Don't Wanna - YouTube
 

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It's not necessarily gay.. Beyonce in particular makes a CONSCIOUS effort to cater her music to women and their experiences. She's been consistent in this throughout her entire career even in Destiny's Child. It has a lot to do with her mom owning a hair solon and her always being surrounded by 'powerful' women. Her work is niche in the fact that it's always had this 'feminist' vibe to it.. she's never shy-ed away from this and openly talks about being the mouthpiece for black women in culture.. so much that at one point people thought she had a vendetta against men.

Mariah's music is just really really feminine.. she didn't have a real musical identity (neither did Whitney) until maybe around 97 with that Butterfly record..

Yeah but it's not like Aaliyah and MJB weren't feminine or didn't make music from a feminine perspective. I think it might just have to more with their vocal deliveries/sounds. Aaliyah and MJB (or 90's MJB) had more of a laidback down to earth vibe while Beyonce and Mariah seem more like big, slick, divaish theatrical performers. That's maybe a bit unfair to Bey and Mariah but there's also a bit of truth to it.:yeshrug:

Beyonce's feminism doesn't bother me either, matter of fact her I think her most "angry woman" album is her best work.
 

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Yeah but it's not like Aaliyah and MJB weren't feminine or didn't make music from a feminine perspective. I think it might just have to more with their vocal deliveries/sounds. Aaliyah and MJB (or 90's MJB) had more of a laidback down to earth vibe while Beyonce and Mariah seem more like big, slick, divaish theatrical performers. That's maybe a bit unfair to Bey and Mariah but there's also a bit of truth to it.:yeshrug:

Beyonce's feminism doesn't bother me either, matter of fact her I think her most "angry woman" album is her best work.

I wasn't necessarily comparing Baby Girl and MJB to the other to, moreso honing on the traits that made them.. 'them'.

"I think it might just have to more with their vocal deliveries/sounds. ..while Beyonce and Mariah seem more like big, slick, divaish theatrical" - Oh yeah definitely.. their influences speak well for them, Aretha, Patti, Whitney, Anita and the black church in general was huge influence on their 'sound'. Aaliyah and MJB just didn't have that type of arsenal (MJB did to a certain extent) and modeled their sound to fit the stylish production of the hip-hop producers and tastemakers of the time that was juxtaposed against the adult contemporary, balladry singing of the late 80s/early 90s.
 

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miguel’s tone is amazing. Probably the most technically sound of his generation.

Lucky Day is up there too

one of definitely.. Bruno and Luke James edges him out (IMO), though..
 
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Anyone with a honest bone in their body knows Aaliyah wasn’t that good of a singer.
She wasn’t a better singer than Beyoncé. And Beyoncé is an incredible all around artists.. but...

that sound Aaliyah had, timberland on the production. Raw, soulful, smooth, HARD. I wouldn’t bump Beyoncé’s shyt the way I can Aaliyah
 

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Aaliyah's voice seemed to match her persona, which was very feminine and sensual.
 
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