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US shutdown halts Barack Obama's Malaysia trip
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Obama accused Republicans of demanding ransom over Obamacare

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US budget row
President Barack Obama has called off his trip to Malaysia to tackle the US government shutdown, the office of Malaysia's PM Najib Razak has said.

Secretary of State John Kerry will represent him next week instead, the office said.

The US government has partially shut down after the two houses of Congress failed to agree a new budget.

More than 700,000 federal employees face unpaid leave, and national parks, museums and many buildings are closed.

Mr Obama earlier vowed not to allow Republicans to undermine his signature healthcare legislation as a condition to restart the US government.

"They demanded ransom," Mr Obama said.

Four-nation trip
Mr Najib's office said Mr Obama had called the prime minister on Wednesday to inform him that Mr Kerry would address an entrepreneurship conference in Kuala Lumpur on 11 October in his place.

Mr Obama's visit would have been the first by a US president to Malaysia since Lyndon B Johnson in 1966.

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What does shutdown mean for two million federal employees, agencies and tourist destinations?

Mr Obama had been scheduled to begin a four-nation Asian trip on Saturday to boost economic ties.

It would also have taken in Indonesia, Brunei and the Philippines.

There has been no confirmation yet of what Mr Obama intends to do with the rest of the itinerary.

This is the third time in three years Mr Obama has called off Asian trips.

In 2010, a vote on health care and the Gulf of Mexico oil spill forced separate cancellations.

'Hyper-partisan speeches'
The US government ceased operations deemed non-essential at midnight on Tuesday, when the previous budget expired.

National parks and Washington's Smithsonian museums are closed, pension and veterans' benefit cheques will be delayed, and visa and passport applications will go unprocessed.

However, members of the military will be paid.

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  • State department will be able to operate for limited time
  • Department of defence will continue military operations
  • Department of education will still distribute $22bn (£13.6bn) to public schools, but staffing is expected to be severely hit
  • Department of energy - 12,700 staff expected to be sent home, with 1,113 remaining to oversee nuclear arsenal
  • Department of health and human services expected to send home more than half of staff
  • The Federal Reserve, dept of homeland security, and justice dept will see little or no disruption
  • US Postal Services continue as normal
  • Smithsonian institutions, museums, zoos and many national parks will close
Mr Obama blamed conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives for the government shutdown, saying "one faction of one party" was responsible because "they didn't like one law".

"They've shut down the government over an ideological crusade to deny affordable health insurance to millions of Americans," Mr Obama said.

The White House rejected a Republican plan to fund only a few portions of the government - national parks, veterans' programmes and the budget of the District of Columbia.

The Republicans have called for more negotiations.

A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner called the White House's position "unsustainably hypocritical".

Rory Cooper, a spokesman for Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, accused Mr Obama of "hyper-partisan speeches".

An opinion poll released on Tuesday suggested the American public was inclined to fault the Republican strategy.



Engineers with the US Navy talk to the BBC about what they will do during a shutdown: Make skis

An estimated 72% of voters oppose Congress shutting down the federal government in order to block the health law, according a poll by Quinnipiac University.

The healthcare law passed in 2010, was subsequently validated by the US Supreme Court, and was a major issue in the 2012 presidential election.

The next key deadline in the US is 17 October, when the government reaches the limit at which it can borrow money to pay its bills, the so-called debt ceiling.

House Republicans have demanded a series of policy concessions - including on the health law and on financial and environmental regulations - in exchange for raising the debt ceiling.

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To early to say, the election isnt for another 3 years... Just like Obama wasnt really known until '07 shyt can go the same way for the repubs in 2015-2016

Lol you think repubs have a hidden card in their deck? They lose on the issues even without some magical obama like candidate that comes out of nowhere on the right. The GOP opposes the ACA, Immigration reform and the US is becoming less white not more white so the issues will become even more important to a younger less white citizenry. The current repub party with their how far to the right can you go primaries will not have any of them sniffing the white house for a long time.
 

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Lol you think repubs have a hidden card in their deck? They lose on the issues even without some magical obama like candidate that comes out of nowhere on the right. The GOP opposes the ACA, Immigration reform and the US is becoming less white not more white so the issues will become even more important to a younger less white citizenry. The current repub party with their how far to the right can you go primaries will not have any of them sniffing the white house for a long time.


Like I said, all these points were made back in '95-'96 with the last government shutdown by Newt Gingrich, Clinton winning again, Gore buzzing, the economy booming, etc.. then came along Bush... and the country today as far as the electorate isnt that much different today than in 2000.... couple the fact that Dems aint won three straight elections since FDR... so again all that shyt yall talk just doesnt add up to reality
 

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Like I said, all these points were made back in '95-'96 with the last government shutdown by Newt Gingrich, Clinton winning again, Gore buzzing, the economy booming, etc.. then came along Bush... and the country today as far as the electorate isnt that much different today than in 2000.... couple the fact that Dems aint won three straight elections since FDR... so again all that shyt yall talk just doesnt add up to reality

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/?fb_ac...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

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Like I said, all these points were made back in '95-'96 with the last government shutdown by Newt Gingrich, Clinton winning again, Gore buzzing, the economy booming, etc.. then came along Bush... and the country today as far as the electorate isnt that much different today than in 2000.... couple the fact that Dems aint won three straight elections since FDR... so again all that shyt yall talk just doesnt add up to reality

People never thought a black guy would be president, shyt changes..:manny:
 

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Sorry but you have no idea what your talking about...once Obama leaves the voting bloc for the dems will not be as strong as it was in '08 or '12 unless they trout out another minority candidate to run. If the Dems candidate for 2016 is a John Kerry type they will lose like they did in '04 despite whomever the Republican candidate is


You know the Republicans has only won the popular vote once out of the last 6 Presidential elections.

The voting block is only getting worse for the Republican party.
 

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http://www.salon.com/2013/10/02/grover_norquist_slams_ted_cruz/

Grover Norquist slams Ted Cruz
"He pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away."
By Elias Isquith
  • Grover Norquist (Credit: AP/J. Scott Applewhite)
    In an interview published Wednesday by the Washington Post, anti-tax activist and Republican powerbroker Grover Norquist laid into Ted Cruz, saying the Texas senator “pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away.”

    Speaking with the Post’s Ezra Klein, Norquist argued that Cruz “confused people” when he insisted that a vote to fund the government that didn’t also defund Obamacare was effectively a vote for Obamacare:

    There’s unanimity among Republicans. They all voted against [Obamacare] being created and for it being repealed.

    The only confusion that comes out is that Cruz stood on the side and confused people about the fact that every Republican agrees [on Obamacare]. He said if you don’t agree with my tactic and with the specific structure of my idea, you’re bad. He said if the House would simply pass the bill with defunding he would force the Senate to act. He would lead this grass-roots movement that would get Democrats to change their mind. So the House passed it, it went to the Senate, and Ted Cruz said, oh, we don’t have the votes over here. And I can’t find the e-mails or ads targeting Democrats to support it. Cruz said he would deliver the votes and he didn’t deliver any Democratic votes. He pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away.

    While Norquist is far from the first conservative to take a public swipe at Cruz, he may be the most influential. His Americans for Tax Reform organization is a major player in rightwing politics, and signing its “Taxpayer Protection Pledge” has long been a near-necessity for any Republican running for office.
 

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People never thought a black guy would be president, shyt changes..:manny:

touche'... my point still stands that '16 aint a lock for Dems like most in Higher Learning here believe.... still have full 3 years until election day on '16 anything can happen till then to make Dems and Obama unfavorable and Republicans favorable
 
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