This was how women were encourage to treat their man in 1950's

[Wild self]

See I was gonna say something very vulgar but I'm a just keep it to myself

Might as well say that vulgar statement.

 

[The M.I.C.]

See I was gonna say something very vulgar but I'm a just keep it to myself

Might as well say that vulgar statement.

Yes....say it

 

[Diondon]

I don't see anything wrong with that. But men were different as well. There are still traditional women out there. But a lot of men give lip service these days to traditional women while trying or wanting to benefit from non-traditional roles.

Men HAVE to understand that women are HUMANS. That's how this shyt started in the first place.
HUMANS. Subjects not objects.

And HUMANS have needs that must be met just like you have needs that must be met.
We easily forget this stuff and I don't know why. Gender roles only work if they are practical for whatever circumstances you are in. And they should never be so rigid as to discourage change or flexibility when necessary.

I honestly will never understand this gender war.

GOAT

 

[HellRell804]

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only pragmatist in the world. Like is there a magical land where I can just get balance.

Where I can play this role but my husband won't undermine me, take me for granted, be threatened by my talents and intelligence or see it as competition, will be supportive of me and proud of me and push me the way I support him?

Like is there a place where there are men with common sense to understand that good leaders always listen to and respect their advisors instead of always bytching and moaning about staying in ur place and being weaker?

Is there somebody out there smart enuff to realize that isolating 1/2 of the world's population and insulting them, or underestimating their abilities might result in a backlash?

Or that if your a good leader others won't mind following you, but you have to be deserving of that gift and ur actions should show it? And if you break that trust or cheat you lose that right, no excuses.

Is there a place where women won't shame men out of their masculinity then turn around and complain about their not being any real men around? Is there also a place where men don't define their masculinity in terms that are insulting or abusive or obnoxious to women?

Anybody? I wasn't raised in an environment where men and women were constantly bickering. My mom and dad are partners and leaders in their own right. They rule what they are good at and help each other grow in areas they are weak in.

It's really that simple but people keep making this shyt complicated and I'm trying my best to understand WHY?!

You make valid points, but the reality of the situation is this. Truly exceptional women were never denied. Look at Madame cj walker, the first black millionaire she died in 1919. Marie curie pioneer in science, she died in 1934. Bessie Coleman first black female pilot. Amelia Earhart, first female pilot to fly across the Atlantic, etc.

All those women made history pre feminism, so they actually had to compete against real competition. Not this lower the bar bullshyt we got going on now.

It's the same for men. There are few truly exceptional men compared to the total number of men. For the rest of us traditional gender roles are the best compromise for a productive society and happiness. Being a middle manager for some soulless corporation isn't a real achievement. Being one of a million human service workers working for peanuts isn't a real achievement. There's a reason male dominated fields still make more those jobs, like the oil refinery workers and stem majors, actually are beneficial to society. A skilled tradesman will make way more in a lifetime than a psychology graduate because that's an actual marketable skill.

Raising the next generation of strong capable children is the achievement, but women have let outside influences convince them that this is worthless and its leading to an overall weakness of society. But people won't get the picture til a non indoctrinated society comes thru and crushes the buildings.

In that situation, men will be killed or imprisoned, while women will still have the option to cozy up to the new invaders and assimilate

 

[TripleAgent]

Wish u could talk to my wife. she's a stay at home and I get NONE of this...

Might be time to look at a replacement