This Myth That LeBron James Makes His Teammates Better.......

[MVike28]

nice thread

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

What teammates has he made better?

This myth has been going on forever, but the FACTS are that nobody he's played with (players of note) have had their best seasons playing alongside LeBron James.

Carlos Boozer? Best seasons were with Deron Williams (Boozer only played 1 season with LeBron...that year was better than the previous year)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Best season was in 2003.....before LeBron (Big Z's best season...was during one of the Cavs worst seasons in franchise history)
Ricky Davis? Best season was in 2003...before LeBron (Ricky Davis only lasted a half season with LeBron....didnt do much after)
Larry Hughes? Best seasons were with Gilbert Arenas (Larry Hughes didnt do much after leaving Cleveland either. Plus that was much of a Mike Brown issue)
Ben Wallace? Best seasons were with Chauncey Billups (C'mon son....he was done)
Delonte West? Best seasons were with Paul Pierce (and with Gloria ) (his best season....they werent winning...)
Mo Williams? Best seasons were with Michael Redd in 07 and 08 (He became an All Star on the Cavs)
Antawn Jamison? Best seasons were with Gilbert Arenas (He was done)
Shaq? Best seasons were with Kobe (Now you're just throwing out names...you know he was done)
Hell, Anderson Varejao? Best seasons were after LeBron left (Cavs have picked #1 3 out of the last 4 years as well)
Dwyane Wade? Aint been the same since LeBron came to South Beach (Injuries)
Chris Bosh? Aint been the same since he left Toronto. Went from putting up 24 and 10 to putting up 16 and 6 (What does LeBron have to do with Bosh not rebounding?)
Ray Allen? Hasnt shot this low from the field in over 5 years. (He's 38 bruh)




Facts are Facts.


Dont kill the messenger.....kill the myth

Not everybody falling for that witchcraft breh

 

[Newzz]

Bosh has always looked his best when either Wade or Bron is out and it's just him and one of them, his offense is more diverse. When it's both of them he has to roam cause Wade just can't shoot and doesn't even play PnR with him, so he's used as a release valve for their drives.

Yeah Bron needs a floor spacer, but he also functioned just fine with an Anderson Varejao/Shaq/Hickson frontcourt that couldn't shoot. If you removed Wade from the equation Bosh would be a lot better, he's shown as much in the past. The Heat need to bring Wade off the bench, but that ain't happening.

I dont think Bosh is bad, I think he's being used bad by Spoelstra in this very limited offense where the bigs have to get out of the post, , and let the wings have the lane.


Heat stans try and lie to us, but just as you said, when LeBron/Wade is out....all of a sudden, we see flashes of the old Toronto Bosh every single time

 

[Malta]

I dont think Bosh is bad, I think he's being used bad by Spoelstra in this very limited offense where the bigs have to get out of the post, , and let the wings have the lane.


Heat stans try and lie to us, but just as you said, when LeBron/Wade is out....all of a sudden, we see flashes of the old Toronto Bosh every single time

If the Heat had the option between a prime Ray Allen and a prime Dwyane Wade, they'd be better with Allen.

Wade and Bron just don't fit together, it's even more clear now that Wade is declining, Bosh just bears the brunt of their incompatibility

 

[ROFL_GUY]

 

[BillBanneker]

If the Heat had the option between a prime Ray Allen and a prime Dwyane Wade, they'd be better with Allen.

Wade and Bron just don't fit together, it's even more clear now that Wade is declining, Bosh just bears the brunt of their incompatibility

They're all ball dominate guys, they were never truly going to mesh unless they (especially Wade) learn to transition into an off ball scorer(s). But Spo is def getting exposed (bad gameplan) or they're just not listening.

 

[Newzz]

Not everybody falling for that witchcraft breh

Just to kill you real quick, let me hit you with this since I dont feel like going into full detail. Since you said Jamison was done.


Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 32 years old: 22 ppg on 47% FG
Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 33 years old...before trade to Cavs: 21 ppg on 45% FG
Antawn Jamison with LeBron James at 33 years old......after trade to Cavs: 15 ppg on 48% FG




Thanks for playing

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Just to kill you real quick, let me hit you with this


Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 32 years old: 22 ppg on 47% FG
Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 33 years old...before trade to Cavs: 21 ppg on 45% FG
Antawn Jamison with LeBron James at 33 years old......after trade to Cavs: 15 ppg on 48% FG




Thanks for playing

You got no shot when your best bet in Jamison

Do you remember Antwan on the Cavs at all? Do you remember how the bad the Wizards were that year they trade him?
He put up empty stats bruh on the Wizards.

However, it wasnt much of a difference on the Cavs.

Per 36 19/8.2 on the Wizards
Per 36 17.5/8.6 on the Cavs

And I bet you forgot how KG dominated Jamison and made him ineffective in the playoffs.



Find a better point breh.

 

[Newzz]

You got no shot when your best bet in Jamison

Do you remember Antwan on the Cavs at all? Do you remember how the bad the Wizards were that year they trade him?
He put up empty stats bruh on the Wizards.

However, it wasnt much of a difference on the Cavs.

Per 36 19/8.2 on the Wizards
Per 36 17.5/8.6 on the Cavs

And I bet you forgot how KG dominated Jamison and made him ineffective in the playoffs.



Find a better point breh.

You dont realize that you've made my point for me



AGAIN, the point IS LEBRON DOESNT MAKE HIS TEAMMATES BETTER



You just posted the stats, yourself, which shows that Jamison had more impact playing alongside Gilbert Arenas (just as Larry Hughes did) than playing next to LeBron James



How was it empty stats, when he led the Wizards to the playoffs 4 times in 5 full seasons there, and was a 2x All-Star as a Wizard



Maybe you should kill that myth that LeBron James makes his teammates better, because obviously Jamison was better on the Wizards

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

How many allstar appearances Moe Williams made since Bron left?

 

[ghostwriterx]

Just to kill you real quick, let me hit you with this since I dont feel like going into full detail. Since you said Jamison was done.


Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 32 years old: 22 ppg on 47% FG
Antawn Jamison with Gilbert Arenas at 33 years old...before trade to Cavs: 21 ppg on 45% FG
Antawn Jamison with LeBron James at 33 years old......after trade to Cavs: 15 ppg on 48% FG




Thanks for playing

Sounds like he shot better with Lebron

 

[Newzz]

Sounds like he shot better with Lebron

LeBron stans: *grasps at straws*


Was Jamison better with LeBron than he was playing alongside Gilbert Arenas?


Yes or no?

 

[ghostwriterx]

LeBron stans: *grasps at straws*


Was Jamison better with LeBron than he was playing alongside Gilbert Arenas?


Yes or no?

You brought the stats up breh.
Jamison shot a better percentage, but took less shots. Cleveland and Washington ran two completely different offenses, same reason Hughes fell off when he went to Cleveland.

Superstars don't actually make their teamates "better", but they can create opportunities and better shots for players who can't get them otherwise. Good example on this current Heat team is Rashard Lewis.

 

[Poitier]

Lebron makes all of his teammates unidimensional and low usage.

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

What does Lebron do with his team outside of basketball

I heard Jordan used to make his teamAtes show up at his house at 6:00 for a breakfast club and to lift weights