This existence makes no sense.

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if things were different, we wouldn't be here to contemplate them
 

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lol man I learned to stop thinking about the universe

shyt is pointless

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and the milky way is 100,000 LIGHT YEARS in diameter

let that sink in for a second lol

lets understand how to navigate this bish bytch first then worry about the "universe"

:to: I feel blessed to be alive in 2012 though :heh:
 

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:whew: i just got high here guys... this is too much for me right now :to:

but my thoughts on this...

im not religious by any means but i feel like theres something to existence. is life completely random? yes. is there life on other planets? yes. and if you honestly dont believe there's intelligent life outside of our planet just look at this

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the whole fukking universe right there. and the milky way.. shyt the whole local cluster is maybe the size of one pixel. so miss me with that we're special shyt, we're just another blip in the galactic community.

if we can survive, as a planetary race, in the long run (tens of thousands of years) thats something to be proud of. were going on roughly 3 thousand years of society, and look what we've done to ourselves and the planet. killing ourselves by the thousands in pointless wars, burning fossil fuels and melting the ice caps when we have the technology not to, persecuting people for religious/gender/racial/etc reasons every day, and on and on. shyt the dinosaurs lived relatively peacefully for 165 MILLION YEARS but God just kicked in in the past few thousand? :childplease: :stopitslime:

dont really know where i was going with all that but in closing, there is no god, were not alone, and we're not shyt.. yet.
 
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We live in a universe that was created by chance and chaos. You see order and stability because that what is left after 13+ billion years of things banging into each other and destroying everything.

The OP doesn't have the intelligence to comprehend that, and he feels uncomfortable about it.
 

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We live in a universe that was created by chance and chaos. You see order and stability because that what is left after 13+ billion years of things banging into each other and destroying everything.

The OP doesn't have the intelligence to comprehend that, and he feels uncomfortable about it.

Breh that was uncalled for. I took two astronomy classes on a college level. I know that. That doesn't address my point though.
 
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Breh that was uncalled for. I took two astronomy classes on a college level. I know that. That doesn't address my point though.


It certainly addresses your point. There need not be a plan or a creator for intelligent life.

You must remember that we were humans before we were intelligent at a homosapien sapien level .

There was once many different species of human. Our intelligence gave us the ability to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Our intelligence gave us the Bow-n-arrow, the atlatl and dart, throwing spear, traps, strategies and fortifications, which the enemy humans did not have intelligence to create. We are here because of that, they are all dead.

Why does intelligence evolve? Think about what are the most intelligence animals. They are all highly competitive and social pack-predators. Dogs, dolphins, wolfs and chimps. They are all predators and they all are tribal in nature.

A big brain gives one the ability to be a more effective killer. However, when packs are involved (tribes), then not only does the predator have to contend with predicting and tracking prey, he also has to be one-step ahead of the enemy groups. That's why intelligence evolved. It evolved because it gave a necessary edge.
 

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who created the architect?

The inverse of perfect nothingness. If nothing existed in our universe, then everything must have been in balance somewhere else. This assumes that perfect evrythingness existed simultaneously as nothingness then they started seaping onto one another or some shyt..or

If nothing truly did come first, instead of everything, then nothing created God outside of the contradiction of nothingness itself...meaning that before both everything and nothing was a code. Period. The true algorithm of the resulting explosion must have predated the explosion itself because the explosion was an output..something must be applied to nothing in order to make something, and since everything has a code, the everythingness must have uploaded all information into the free space which was Nothing, but is now what encases our perception of "everythingness".

That algorithm or code or Word..or thought..or action...must have "decided" that it be necessary early on to have an architect..similar to Matrix movie (as corny as it sounds).

1. Purpose of Existence = to Continue and Improve
2. Whats necessary for purpose to be exe = Creation of Things
2A. Things to be created (ideas)
2B. Things to create them with (matter/darkmatter/antimatter/energy/etc)
2C. A space to put them (inherent?)
3. What would best facilitate this?
3A. Space (?)
3B. God (if God is within Matrix and not above, or just a god if one is a simulation of God and one is the Real Deal (super frightening for sub extensions aka deities, demons, monsters, any abstract entity that wr have conjured consciously)
3C. A Matrix/Matrices of words, formulas and dimensional reality that trickles down and creates itself and filters out whats not necessary..etc etc..

As you can see, right there, the programming is essentially complete, as long as Definitions are proper with language.

The real question is..

What is the basr communication of all species and/or universal language? Then powere is unlimited
 

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It certainly addresses your point. There need not be a plan or a creator for intelligent life.

You must remember that we were humans before we were intelligent at a homosapien sapien level .

There was once many different species of human. Our intelligence gave us the ability to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Our intelligence gave us the Bow-n-arrow, the atlatl and dart, throwing spear, traps, strategies and fortifications, which the enemy humans did not have intelligence to create. We are here because of that, they are all dead.

Why does intelligence evolve? Think about what are the most intelligence animals. They are all highly competitive and social pack-predators. Dogs, dolphins, wolfs and chimps. They are all predators and they all are tribal in nature.

A big brain gives one the ability to be a more effective killer. However, when packs are involved (tribes), then not only does the predator have to contend with predicting and tracking prey, he also has to be one-step ahead of the enemy groups. That's why intelligence evolved. It evolved because it gave a necessary edge.

You're giving me a lesson of evolution. I know the majority of things you've just said.

My question is how does one being conscious of one's self come from something that is not conscious? Something that has formed from chaos, as you put it? How does intelligence come from something that is not intelligent?
 

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The inverse of perfect nothingness. If nothing existed in our universe, then everything must have been in balance somewhere else. This assumes that perfect evrythingness existed simultaneously as nothingness then they started seaping onto one another or some shyt..or

If nothing truly did come first, instead of everything, then nothing created God outside of the contradiction of nothingness itself...meaning that before both everything and nothing was a code. Period. The true algorithm of the resulting explosion must have predated the explosion itself because the explosion was an output..something must be applied to nothing in order to make something, and since everything has a code, the everythingness must have uploaded all information into the free space which was Nothing, but is now what encases our perception of "everythingness".

That algorithm or code or Word..or thought..or action...must have "decided" that it be necessary early on to have an architect..similar to Matrix movie (as corny as it sounds).

1. Purpose of Existence = to Continue and Improve
2. Whats necessary for purpose to be exe = Creation of Things
2A. Things to be created (ideas)
2B. Things to create them with (matter/darkmatter/antimatter/energy/etc)
2C. A space to put them (inherent?)
3. What would best facilitate this?
3A. Space (?)
3B. God (if God is within Matrix and not above, or just a god if one is a simulation of God and one is the Real Deal (super frightening for sub extensions aka deities, demons, monsters, any abstract entity that wr have conjured consciously)
3C. A Matrix/Matrices of words, formulas and dimensional reality that trickles down and creates itself and filters out whats not necessary..etc etc..

As you can see, right there, the programming is essentially complete, as long as Definitions are proper with language.

The real question is..

What is the basr communication of all species and/or universal language? Then powere is unlimited

...Nothing cannot exist, when something does not. :ohhh: But what is "perfect everything?"

Am I understanding you correctly? You're saying, for example, there wouldn't be happiness if there wasn't sadness. So there can never only be nothing because "nothing" wouldn't mean anything without its opposite, which would be something?
 
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