This current Orton run has to be one of worst big time Vet runs in years.

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Orton is lazy as fukk & only shows up when he's in there with someone who can actually force him to work. Bray isn't a workhorse like that & Jinder is mediocre as fukk in every way. Only highlights from this Jinder stuff has been the goofy bumps the Singh Bros are taking & this shyt has been going on for what 3 months?
 

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Hot take: He's been booked the worst out of all the vets throughout history.

Be in a feud with jinder and expect it to be good brehs.
Be in a feud with Brock and Bray. Still trash. And Bray was a 9+ month Wrestlemania feud. The only place where he thrives was being tag team champions and vs Harper. Everything else was awful. He may be been booked like shyt for a long time, but his match quality been in the toilet for almost 2 years. Cena, HBK, Austin, Undertaker, Henry, and etc were putting out the best works of their career during this time. Orton has been unacceptable in the ring for someone of his caliber and tenure.
 

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Be in a feud with Brock and Bray. Still trash. And Bray was a 9+ month Wrestlemania feud. The only place where he thrives was being tag team champions and vs Harper. Everything else was awful. He may be been booked like shyt for a long time, but his match quality been in the toilet for almost 2 years. Cena, HBK, Austin, Undertaker, Henry, and etc were putting out the best works of their career during this time. Orton has been unacceptable in the ring for someone of his caliber and tenure.

"Be in a feud with Brock and Bray. Still trash."

My nikka those dudes matches and booking get criticized 24/7. Brock hasn't had a full length match that went over 10 mins and was praised for it since his match again Dean and Roman.

I can count Bray having outstanding matches by himself one on one with someone else on one hand.


Ofc his last two years in the ring have been trash. First year you are complaining about dude went out with shoulder injury. Second year he's facing the likes of Jinder and Bray for countless months for no reason.


I just find it crazy how if this was a fan fav indie in the exact same spot people would claim WWE is missbooking them but when its orton he doesn't care.
 

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Then again when you're establishing a new heel, you gotta have a face the fans give a shyt about

Replace orton with AJ in this feud and do everything the exact same.

Have AJ lose to Jinder 3 months in a row with WWE heel finish tactics.

Are we not gonna have thousands of threads talking about how this shyt is stupid and AJ talent is being wasted?
 

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"Be in a feud with Brock and Bray. Still trash."

My nikka those dudes matches and booking get criticized 24/7. Brock hasn't had a full length match that went over 10 mins and was praised for it since his match again Dean and Roman.

I can count Bray having outstanding matches by himself one on one with someone else on one hand.


Ofc his last two years in the ring have been trash. First year you are complaining about dude went out with shoulder injury. Second year he's facing the likes of Jinder and Bray for countless months for no reason.


I just find it crazy how if this was a fan fav indie in the exact same spot people would claim WWE is missbooking them but when its orton he doesn't care.

A lot of those fan favorite indie stars are better than Orton at everything. He's just not that good.
 

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A lot of those fan favorite indie stars are better than Orton at everything. He's just not that good.
I agree some of those guys are better. And they are getting the shytty WWE booking too. Yet somehow its misusing with them. But if we get Khali vs Orton at Summerslam to receive a -5 star match. The blame will be on Orton and claims of him having to retire will be thrown around once again.
 

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meh:yeshrug: at this point what can you really do

he getting his money, some of you ain't getting 2nds from yr mom from the basement
 

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Should have never had him win the rumble
Should have never given him the WWE title.
Should have never given him a main event run in 2017.

Brock should've never beat the fukk out of him :francis:

I'm convinced that's what triggered this push. Cokeboy like :mjcry: sorry Randy, I owe you one pal. You'll have another big run to get that money.
 

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Replace orton with AJ in this feud and do everything the exact same.

Have AJ lose to Jinder 3 months in a row with WWE heel finish tactics.

Are we not gonna have thousands of threads talking about how this shyt is stupid and AJ talent is being wasted?
I'm not dabbling tin this bullshyt woulda coulda debate. I don't give a fukk if it's Orton and AJ Styles. If you gonna go out there and do jack shyt. I'm gonna call you out for it and he has been doing for approximately 3-4 years. He hasn't put on a great match in a long fukking time. His only good match this year was against fukking Harper. His TV match with AJ Styles had excessive amounts of rest holds to burn TV time. It's fukking coasting. So, fukk all this character booking bullshyt that Orton been dealt with over the past 5 years. This dude is a solid 15+ year vet that can work great matches and it doesn't show in between the ropes. He doesn't need to do flippy indie shyt. He just need to have good matches in his style. His psychology has been lackadaisical and going through the motion at best when he doesn't care. He's been breaking character and committing some lazy botches in the ring. His moveset gets more limited by the year. He hasn't develop a new wrinkle or attempted to reinvent himself in the ring. We can blame WWE the hand that he has been dealt, but the same time... He needs to go out there and live up to his credentials and wrestle like the perennial 4**** talent that he is. I'm just disappoint in how badly Orton regressed when I wanted him to reach that classic match era that Cena got to in 2011. I want good wrestling. He hasn't been doing that in a long time and this year... He has been unacceptable, and he has been the top main event program for an unbearable 6 months. He brought nothing to table. No memorable promos. Took part in three of the worst matches of his career frankly. shyt needs to be called out... Orton has been having a terrible 2017 after a very disappointing 2015-16.

And I don't even care for indie guys.
 

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I'm not dabbling tin this bullshyt woulda coulda debate. I don't give a fukk if it's Orton and AJ Styles. If you gonna go out there and do jack shyt. I'm gonna call you out for it and he has been doing for approximately 3-4 years. He hasn't put on a great match in a long fukking time. His only good match this year was against fukking Harper. His TV match with AJ Styles had excessive amounts of rest holds to burn TV time. It's fukking coasting. So, fukk all this character booking bullshyt that Orton been dealt with over the past 5 years. This dude is a solid 15+ year vet that can work great matches and it doesn't show in between the ropes. He doesn't need to do flippy indie shyt. He just need to have good matches in his style. His psychology has been lackadaisical and going through the motion at best when he doesn't care. He's been breaking character and committing some lazy botches in the ring. His moveset gets more limited by the year. He hasn't develop a new wrinkle or attempted to reinvent himself in the ring. We can blame WWE the hand that he has been dealt, but the same time... He needs to go out there and live up to his credentials and wrestle like the perennial 4**** talent that he is. I'm just disappoint in how badly Orton regressed when I wanted him to reach that classic match era that Cena got to in 2011. I want good wrestling. He hasn't been doing that in a long time and this year... He has been unacceptable, and he has been the top main event program for an unbearable 6 months. He brought nothing to table. No memorable promos. Took part in three of the worst matches of his career frankly. shyt needs to be called out... Orton has been having a terrible 2017 after a very disappointing 2015-16.

And I don't even care for indie guys.

Of course he hasn't had a great match in a long ass time.
He's faced Jinder or Bray wyatt for at least 6 months or so now.
And when hes on SD hes facing guys like Erik Rowan or English.

I was there for that AJ vs Orton match so I might have a different opinion because I enjoyed it.
 
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