This Aboriginal Nonsense Really Aint Cool

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Gonna try to get in contact with Lord J to tell him to drop the buffoon shyt. And at his age. Trying to draw attention to his platforms by continuing to entertain this nonsense is destroying his Brand Nubian legacy and mark in hip hop.

No longer fukking with him regardless.
 
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I literally heard Lord Jamar on this live with Rosenberg say that Black folks were tricked into believing they were from somewhere else:gucci::why::comeon::stopitslime:

Really. So Black folks from the Americas are that dumb. That a couple hundreds White men 400 years ago just came from Europe and told 100s off Millions off Black folks who were "already here" from Canada to Argentina.

"Hey, you guys aren't really from here, you are from this place call Africa. Forget everything you know about your land, and think Africa"

And like that Black folks magically forgot all about being indigenous. WTF

It low key comes from a deep self hatred. We become more and more bytchmade with each passing generation

I own my blackness and my heritage. Love and respect yourself first
 

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There's no amount of logic or evidence that will work on people that are HIGH in emotion and LOW in critical thinking and unfortunately nothing else will work.

Everything that does not favor their fantasies is dismissed as white mans work of fiction (DNA ties to west africa, certain illnesses like sickle cell, documents listing names, ages and origins of enslaved Africans)

on the very few times that they can't counter, they will default to the 20 ENSLAVED AFRICANs that were brought over.



^This man here claims to be proud Cherokee Indian that owned slaves and has ZERO African heritage.
 

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I have to revisit this again, because I'm really starting to think, that this movement gaining so much traction now is not a coincidence.

What's really happening right now. The world is learning and getting to know Africa more then ever before. We're seeing what the continent really has to offer, especially in opportunities for the Diaspora, and people with ideas. And as so many Black Folks around the diaspora are getting to know about the place and discovered its wonders. Here Comes the Indigenous crew, and they're gaining more traction, whilst Africa is slowly getting build up and lowkey gentrification is going on. With everyone else getting in mix.

These folks are straight agents talking that bs
 

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All I can say is I've been to 6 African countries, black Colombia and my parents are Haitian and this is a unique American idea which isn't helpful And completely detrimental to our unification. It's actually embarrassing and a disgrace to Our Ancestors. Honestly, I consider it high treason. Y'all lucky y'all not spreading this idea if I was a dictator.
 

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What do you mean "if"? So you are disputing the idea of "black" natives? And diverse phenotypes among the same tribe? Well if you believe darkskin black people could only be from Africa. Then I see why you think you are correct,sadly you are not alone.

Black-skinned people across the world come from equatorial regions and other places with very high sun exposure. They're pretty much all either from Africa, or from the Australasian genetic group that migrated out of Africa and populated South India, Indonesia, Australia, and the associated islands nearby. The reasons for this are obvious - if your skin is too dark and you live in a place that gets limited sunlight, your Vitamin D production and immune system strength is seriously reduced. So every people group that migrated to northern regions gradually lost most of their dark-skinned genes over time due to survival rates.

The Americas were populated by people from the Siberian region who crossed over during the Ice Age. They're most closely related to the North Asian ethnic group, which was quite light-skinned due to the climate they'd lived in for tens of thousands of years. That caused them to lose most of the genes that coded for significant amounts of melanin. Since the Americas were populated so recently (around 20,000 years ago), Natives across both continents are fairly closely related to each other. They simply haven't had time to diverge genetically the way people diverged on other continents.

Native Americans aren't as light-skinned as most white people, and they can tan of course which means the ones who stayed outside 24/7 were somewhat darker. Over time the ones who moved into the most sunny regions would likely naturally select for darker skin as well. But the problem is that most of the genes available for that stuff disappeared from the population tens of thousands of years earlier. Unless there are mutations, they can't just magically reappear, and 20,000 years isn't much time for significant mutations like that to spring up. Which is why even Native Americans in the Amazon aren't all that dark.

Here are the Yakut people of Siberia. These are who Native Americans are most closely related to genetically:
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This is a Surui woman from the Brazilian Amazon. This is one of many Native American groups who show 100% Native ancestry:
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And, FWIW, here's an Olmec statue which isn't necessarily supposed to be a perfect representation of a person, and is supposedly so different from Natives that it "has" to be something else:

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if for hundreds of years, you’re not allowed to read or write and you know nothing of your history or ancestry besides what’s going on the plantation it’s definitely possible.

I fully believe black people were already in America but believing that and disregarding the slave trade don’t have to be one in the same

Two things can be true


Breh, the vast majority of human societies couldn't read or write and yet they had no problem passing down their history. Native Americans couldn't read or write, but they still passed down their tribe and religion and history and traditions, they still know where they came from. You can erase a people's history if you systematically remove every single child from their parents and then killed off all the parents, but in order to erase Native Black American history that way you'd have to systematically pull that off for every single group of Native Black Americans....how the hell would that work when different regions of the New World were controlled by completely different people without any sort of centralized command structure or authority?
 
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I have to revisit this again, because I'm really starting to think, that this movement gaining so much traction now is not a coincidence.

What's really happening right now. The world is learning and getting to know Africa more then ever before. We're seeing what the continent really has to offer, especially in opportunities for the Diaspora, and people with ideas. And as so many Black Folks around the diaspora are getting to know about the place and discovered its wonders. Here Comes the Indigenous crew, and they're gaining more traction, whilst Africa is slowly getting build up and lowkey gentrification is going on. With everyone else getting in mix.

These folks are straight agents talking that bs
Lol the ones meant to come to Africa and prosper will do it.

Let the indigenous ones stay home, we not trying to split the pie anymore than we have to and African tribes aren’t looking to recruit anyway.
 

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Always wondered about these Olmec heads. Impossible to date really but they say 900BC. Makes you think what the difference is between history and HIStory, feel me?


So here's your Olmec head next to Almir Narayamoga Surui, a Surui chief who fights for indigenous rights and environmental conservation:

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Now you got me believing in time travel cause I'm pretty sure breh was the original model for that statue. :dead:
 

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if for hundreds of years, you’re not allowed to read or write and you know nothing of your history or ancestry besides what’s going on the plantation it’s definitely possible.


I fully believe black people were already in America but believing that and disregarding the slave trade don’t have to be one in the same


Two things can be true
:jbhmm:and somehow in all the America's not one lick of credible evidence was found supporting this?
I have to revisit this again, because I'm really starting to think, that this movement gaining so much traction now is not a coincidence.

What's really happening right now. The world is learning and getting to know Africa more then ever before. We're seeing what the continent really has to offer, especially in opportunities for the Diaspora, and people with ideas. And as so many Black Folks around the diaspora are getting to know about the place and discovered its wonders. Here Comes the Indigenous crew, and they're gaining more traction, whilst Africa is slowly getting build up and lowkey gentrification is going on. With everyone else getting in mix.

These folks are straight agents talking that bs
I see what you trying to say but it ain't that deep. These old heads just found other old heads and new fools who they can use to spread these dumb ass ideas.
This is old five percenter and Israelite rhetoric finding new life on SM
 

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Black-skinned people across the world come from equatorial regions and other places with very high sun exposure. They're pretty much all either from Africa, or from the Australasian genetic group that migrated out of Africa and populated South India, Indonesia, Australia, and the associated islands nearby. The reasons for this are obvious - if your skin is too dark and you live in a place that gets limited sunlight, your Vitamin D production and immune system strength is seriously reduced. So every people group that migrated to northern regions gradually lost most of their dark-skinned genes over time due to survival rates.

The Americas were populated by people from the Siberian region who crossed over during the Ice Age. They're most closely related to the North Asian ethnic group, which was quite light-skinned due to the climate they'd lived in for tens of thousands of years. That caused them to lose most of the genes that coded for significant amounts of melanin. Since the Americas were populated so recently (around 20,000 years ago), Natives across both continents are fairly closely related to each other. They simply haven't had time to diverge genetically the way people diverged on other continents.

Native Americans aren't as light-skinned as most white people, and they can tan of course which means the ones who stayed outside 24/7 were somewhat darker. Over time the ones who moved into the most sunny regions would likely naturally select for darker skin as well. But the problem is that most of the genes available for that stuff disappeared from the population tens of thousands of years earlier. Unless there are mutations, they can't just magically reappear, and 20,000 years isn't much time for significant mutations like that to spring up. Which is why even Native Americans in the Amazon aren't all that dark.

Here are the Yakut people of Siberia. These are who Native Americans are most closely related to genetically:
main-qimg-a8c8e7c889948a22b86007e761e0b4d1-lq


This is a Surui woman from the Brazilian Amazon. This is one of many Native American groups who show 100% Native ancestry:
Txai%20Surui%CC%81%2C%20a%20young%20Indigenous%20activist%20who%20lives%20in%20Rondonia%20in%20the%20Brazilian%20Amazon%2C%20is%20an%20inspirational%20environmentalist.%20Credit%20Kaninde%CC%81%20%282%29.jpg



And, FWIW, here's an Olmec statue which isn't necessarily supposed to be a perfect representation of a person, and is supposedly so different from Natives that it "has" to be something else:

olmechead-58b89c713df78c353cc88d15.JPG









Breh, the vast majority of human societies couldn't read or write and yet they had no problem passing down their history. Native Americans couldn't read or write, but they still passed down their tribe and religion and history and traditions, they still know where they came from. You can erase a people's history if you systematically remove every single child from their parents and then killed off all the parents, but in order to erase Native Black American history that way you'd have to systematically pull that off for every single group of Native Black Americans....how the hell would that work when different regions of the New World were controlled by completely different people without any sort of centralized command structure or authority?


That is European psuedo science,bought on by the Europeans limited and reductive knowledge of melanin. Darker skin is more accidic,which is more conduscive to fending off micro organisms. Darker skinned peoples bodies have stronger immune reponses to infections. Makes for a better barrier for water loss. Not to mention a greater connection with the universe and recieving the light codes.


The idea that people would adapt away from skin that functions better in the majority,is simply more European fiction:respect:



And showing pictures of what they look like today does little to prove what they looked like 500 years ago. Also its naive to think so called Native Americans of today,have incentive to tell the truth. First of all its doubtful they didnt lose their history based on the ammount of murder and death.


You have to understand something,the so called "civilized tribals" were being assimilated. Even as they had black natives within the ranks. You see stories like Willie Beams and his family. Where the mulatto offspring,sold off his darker pigmented offspring into slavery. So the so called civilized tribes were being assimilated by the European culture of that period. And obviously that culture was hating "black people".



So they were selling off siblings into slavery due to brainwashing and greed.And Im sure when it comes to land alotments,its very benefecial to claim there were no black natives. But if yall wanna just trust and believe everybody:manny:
 

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It is absolutely possible that some Africans madr it to the islands, and both North and South America. Columbus did state that the natives he met were in some conflict with darker skinned people who resembled Africans. We also have tobacco in Egyptian tombs. Columbus wasn't the first, but the Atlantic slave trade is very real.
 

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Its rarely brought up with the Olmec statues that they made a large amount of other sculptures besides the heads too. They look like asians to me :manny:


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