“They want me to be Shaq but this league is different. You can't elbow people”-Joel Embiid
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Pick n roll defense may be one thing but #3 in blocks with 3.5 bpg in ya rookie year.. I think makes you an elite rim protector.. that’s just me tho
3rd in blocks in the MVP season too
That's not his point...he's saying modern bigs have to stretch the floor and play with more finesse than the old school bangers...people criticize him for taking jump shots without understanding the game is reff different
I only mentioned Shaq because EMBIID MENTIONED SHAQ, and was making excuses about why he can’t get off since it’s not 1998. I literally didn’t say one thing praising Shaq in my post.
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They don’t have to do anything, if that’s what Brett Brown is telling him to do ok, but you can still play in the post if you perfect the art.
the “you can’t play in the post cuz you can’t elbow ppl” quote is BS because 60s big men played in the post effectively and in the 60s I COULD NOT get in your pathway or initiate contact with you in the post as the offensive player.
schemes are different because it’s a copy cat league but the same way Melo and Leonard can still effectively use the mid range despite the rest of the league not using it , a big man can, use hook shots, fade-aways,drop steps, shoulder fakes and play make out the post if they work on the skill set.
Hakeem cooked stronger players with finesse, skill and savvy..
you don’t necessarily have to be a “banger” to dominate in the post
as far as officiating goes, the game.. like most things goes in cycles
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NO HES JUST NOT SKILLED
ENOUGH IN THE POST TO CONSISTENTLY
GET OFF AGAINST GUYS HE CANT BULLY
WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A GUY.
GO WATCH TIM DUNCAN.
HE WASNT BANGING GUYS.
THIS WAS THE MOST EMPTY 30 PT
SERIES IVE EVER SEEN.
HE GOT ALL HIS POINTS AT THE FOUL LINE
BAITING FOR FOULS LIKE HARDEN.
ENOUGH IN THE POST TO CONSISTENTLY
GET OFF AGAINST GUYS HE CANT BULLY
WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A GUY.
GO WATCH TIM DUNCAN.
HE WASNT BANGING GUYS.
THIS WAS THE MOST EMPTY 30 PT
SERIES IVE EVER SEEN.
HE GOT ALL HIS POINTS AT THE FOUL LINE
BAITING FOR FOULS LIKE HARDEN.
1.You're comparing modern basketball to pre-merger NBA... Thats a non starter right there my guy like what are you even talking about?
2. Hakeem didn't play in a league that allowed zone defense... I suggest going to do some research on that before offering commentary on this topic my dude...you can start here
The CelticsHub Whiteboard: Illegal Defense and How It Shapes the NBA - CelticsHub
Tbh I don't think I've ever read a quality basketball take from this username in all my time posting... You see what you see..God bless you guy... Ive broken down the point Joel made in two previous post alreadyNO HES JUST NOT SKILLED
ENOUGH IN THE POST TO CONSISTENTLY
GET OFF AGAINST GUYS HE CANT BULLY
WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A GUY.
GO WATCH TIM DUNCAN.
HE WASNT BANGING GUYS.
THIS WAS THE MOST EMPTY 30 PT
SERIES IVE EVER SEEN.
HE GOT ALL HIS POINTS AT THE FOUL LINE
BAITING FOR FOULS LIKE HARDEN.
Tbh I don't think I've ever read a quality basketball take from this username in all my time posting... You see what you see..God bless you guy... Ive broken down the point Joel made in two previous post already
FOH GOOFY.
JOEL CANT CONSISTENTLY BACK
A GUY DOWN AND MAKE A SIMPLE HOOK SHOT.
shyt HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONE DEFENSE.
yea ima end this here cuz you being a smart ass and I wasn’t even coming at you like that.
my point was the game has been officiated tightly AGAINST offensive players in the post before, it isn’t new and it doesn’t create a scenario where you can’t score in the post because of it.
Duncan, Dirk, KG all played in a post-zone era and we’re effective in the post
Edit: my dumbass going back and forth with somebody -300 in the red
Meh 26% from 3...the shooters ain't good enoughIt's never his fault.
They get him the ball only for him to get doubled into a turnover and it's they didn't get him the ball fast enough
Ben out and they center the whole offense around him and shooters on the perimeter and it becomes the shooters ain't good enough
I'm sure the body language and fatigue issues somebody else fault too
.Felt like he could score 40 this series and the result would be the same
Joel's right. He's easily the best post player in the league, and when you consider that he's a master at drawing fouls and good at making them there's another layer of danger there that Shaq never had(not saying he's Shaq-tier offensively).
Even with the soft as rules dude is completely unguardable 1-on-1, but they're able to throw doubles at him and do things to deter him in ways they couldn't with Shaq. Breh also has to operate with negative floor spacing.
Even with the soft as rules dude is completely unguardable 1-on-1, but they're able to throw doubles at him and do things to deter him in ways they couldn't with Shaq. Breh also has to operate with negative floor spacing.
Embiid is actually right. Alot of Shaqs early game was bully ball. You cant do that shyt no more. The leagues rules are catered to smaller players and spacing. Shaqs rookie year was almost 30 years ago. Alot has changed