They saying Ryan Coogler's Sinners (Vampire Movie) is a hit

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The white media wanted a black film/filmmaker to fail


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1/11
@franklinleonard
A tale of two movies:

Similar deal structures. Similar budgets.

One made $45M from 3300 screens, post pandemic, and won the weekend.

The other made $41M from 3600 screens pre-pandemic, and placed second.

And yet this is the coverage.



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2/11
@franklinleonard
I actually think it’s really important to emphasize here that this isn’t about a single reporter, in this case @brooksbarnesNYT (though he’s catching the hell for it.) He didn’t write the first article and can’t be held accountable for it, though the New York Times certainly can be.



3/11
@franklinleonard
The point, since it’s Twitter and it needs to be made directly, is that the narrative and media context in which these two movies exist is DEEPLY biased, which redounds aggressively to the ways in which similar films and filmmakers will be valued in the future.



4/11
@franklinleonard
Some of y’all are the absolute worst. This isn’t about Quentin Tarantino either. I actually think Once Upon A Time in Hollywood is his most emotionally satisfying work.



5/11
@LucaGuadagnegro
i would also argue that a post-pandemic success of this level is even more impressive… yet these publications would never allude to that



6/11
@franklinleonard




7/11
@Siggyv
41 million up against Lion King live action is pretty impressive tho for Once upon a time in Hollywood



8/11
@franklinleonard
So is $46M up against Minecraft, on 10% fewer theaters than OUATIH.



9/11
@NikMollov
Sinners a great movie but with limited international appeal. QT Brad Pitt Leo huge intl draws. OUTIH got almost 400 mill worldwide, sinners will be lucky to break 250, maybe even 200



10/11
@franklinleonard
Tell me more @NikMollov. Why do you believe it has “limited international appeal”?



11/11
@m95kl
black entertainment: "struggle"
white entertainment: "success"
It's been that way for so long now this isnt business talk its R'ism, we have the raw data now to show that people gravitate towards great stories!




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1/11
@franklinleonard
I wonder if @variety covered Once Upon A Time in Hollywood - which made 10% less at the domestic box office on 10% more theaters prepandemic and at the same budget with a similar deal structure - in the same way.

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"Sinners" has amassed $61 million in its global debut. It's a great result for an original, R-rated horror film, yet the Warner Bros. release has a $90 million price tag before global marketing expenses, so profitability remains a ways away. tinyurl.com/5crb5f83


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2/11
@franklinleonard
Spoiler alert: They didn’t. Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious



3/11
@fullcastandcrew
Here’s how they covered it:

Box Office: ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ Starts Strong With $41 Million, ‘Lion King’ Remains Victorious



4/11
@franklinleonard
Thank you. Beat you by five minutes.

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Spoiler alert: They didn’t. variety.com/2019/film/box-of…


5/11
@KoreyEakers
And LESS star power….



6/11
@franklinleonard
Who had, in all probability, less backend as well.



7/11
@nrizzolo17
Tarantino had years of box office success with original films and multiple Oscars under his belt by the time he made Once Upon a Time.
Most of Coogler’s success has come from established IP. Sinners is only his second original film and his first made just $20 million.



8/11
@franklinleonard
He didn’t have a ton of box office success: Once Upon a Time was his biggest ever domestic opening, aided by two of
the biggest movie stars in the world (and Sinners still beat it, POST pandemic.)



9/11
@levie
Confusing. It reads like the first headline they’ve written about a movie before.



10/11
@alibomaye
Likely not, because since Once Upon a Time there have been so many huge budget flops in recent yrs, the media realizes profitability is a big deal. Think of all the talk of how close Mufasa was to profitability. How far Snow White is. Mindsets have shifted since Once Upon



11/11
@BeauDemayo
They cannot stand black excellence




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1/4
@franklinleonard
So SINNERS made even more money ($48M!) than they were predicting that it did as recently as yesterday? You don't say. ‘Sinners’ Even More Divine With $48 Million No. 1 Opening At Easter Box Office – Monday Update

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My guess, it’ll get revised up again.


2/4
@MikeIsaac
broken through now, word of mouth has to carry into second weekend — i think the intense financial critics are going to look silly (even before VoD)



3/4
@DerlisAGonzalez
I wonder if the articles saying it wasn't quite enough will be revised as well



4/4
@SteveCordero
I'm looking forward to the back-handed compliments in the trade papers & headlines when the movie becomes profitable




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1/29
@SammyJReacts
Ryan Coogler knows how to write a morally complex antagonist



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2/29
@OhBe_Won
Trying not to spoil:

During that particular climactic musical scene where Remmick et al. were singing and dancing, I was so caught up in the swell that I was ignoring the obvious.

And…well…exactly.



3/29
@kaorrosi
Who’s the first one from? I think I missed a movie



4/29
@joebarr13
How was the character morally complex in sinners?



5/29
@firoz1501
Coogler crafts villains with depth and real motives.



6/29
@EnnufTea
Right I was siding with the vampire to an extent



7/29
@movietalkwithb
He does bruh. I’m trying to catch up to you. Round 2 completed



8/29
@ArielEsq305
I’m still on killmonger side 😂😂😂



9/29
@abdulvhad
: need to watch SINNERS



10/29
@paysnnn
Should’ve gave him dr doom



11/29
@heretoroasttim
Okay if we look at Sinners as just a film about symbolism that’s fine but as a Horror film I still think it was bland.



12/29
@rosesfortywild
Every time ! We don’t know whether to hate or empathize with the character. Chefs kiss.



13/29
@_SoulXD
Very dangerous



14/29
@Bl4M3TH3M0VI3S
It’s the dude from Eden lake



15/29
@Sharvissio
Yk what's crazy. I don't think the vampires killed anyone



16/29
@SlanderedOne
Remmick was SO compelling. One of the best interpretations of a charismatic vampire I've ever seen. Everyone had to take a pause and consider if maybe his way was best.



17/29
@alexissTyler
Constantly reminding the people that even “bad” people can make some valid fukking points 😭



18/29
@Jeronimobrat
Facts!



19/29
@MisunderstNomad
There's a reason he picks specific people in each movie, like Chris Nolan.

Also, MBJ mentioned for his role as KM, he actually got into a dark place IRL for the role

- Ignoring family
- Isolating himself
- Being selfish

Wouldn't be surprised if that was Ryan's idea.



20/29
@callumlyal73631
Wakanda was a race war movie



21/29
@_AzureTv
That vampire wasn’t morally complex, he was boring



22/29
@akaProbelmatic
Wakanda forever & the depiction of Namor were shyt



23/29
@ABHISHE25221910
Ryan Caller is a powerful opposition that can beat anyone



24/29
@jamesjonesesq
Namor does not belong.



25/29
@TajuHindi
Ryan Coogler be crafting villains that make you question your whole worldview.



26/29
@ahiran539625
Who's that first one again? I might’ve skipped a movie.



27/29
@RecruitBoss
Killmonger was horribly written and one dimensional.



28/29
@kavaRaramkarwas
"A jolt of a movie, Black Panther springs to life with great talent and feeling, partly through something Hollywood rarely even dreams of: myth,” Manohla Dargis began in the New York Times. “Most big studio fantasies take you out for a fun ride, only to hit the same tired story and franchise-expanding beats. This one doesn’t.” With Creed (2015), Ryan Coogler “revived the Rocky franchise by giving us an African-American champion played by Michael B. Jordan. For Black Panther, Mr. Coogler has brought back Mr. Jordan and some former crew members—including Rachel Morrison, the director of photography on his first feature, Fruitvale Station—a continuity that helps account for this film’s intimacy and fluidity."



29/29
@nostalgia_haze
Sorry black protags just don‘t work for me




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1/8
@RevelsHiram
Notice how black folks always putting others on, I can tel you right now as somebody from the Delta originally they don’t fukk with black folks except to make money off us.

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wow ryan cooler really paid homage, I did not know this about the delta! #Sinners


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2/8
@ados_strong
This is steeped in racism against ADOS .To say no one wanted to do this is a lie. Our government made it possible for Chinese immigrants to use the Negro to create their wealth and they did to current days. This disturbs me and confirms my belief that as a people, we ADOS stand alone.



3/8
@RoslynMickens
Freedmen ALWAYS putting everyone else on🥶 Where's the reciprocity? There is none.



4/8
@1783Amer1can
Same til this day



5/8
@ArtistryPressio
They’re telling this story as if the Asians helped the Black people. It was actually the other way around. We welcomed them into our community, because the whites didn’t want them around them. Hence why they are still around us today, but only to make money off of us. That’s all.



6/8
@MikeLowwry
So exactly how it is today across America.



7/8
@RamonaJMuhammad
And thats facts. Thats why I havent shopped in an Asian store in forever. I get what I need from Black Hair stores and Online Black stores. To hell with them. We are not their bank.



8/8
@Falekbaldwinn
and now you want to be racist to them?

good job perpetuating the cycle of hate.

Smh




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1/31
@thetrillgent
wow ryan cooler really paid homage, I did not know this about the delta! /search?q=#Sinners



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2/31
@thetrillgent
full doc



3/31
@dollyli
tysm for resharing my doc and putting this community back into conversation. I’m the consultant on Sinners for this piece of the film and it’s incredible to see the Mississippi Delta Chinese community in such a blockbuster film 🙏



4/31
@thetrillgent
thank you for doing the research and sharing with the world. your passion has enlightened so many, including myself!



5/31
@thetrillgent
ryan actually hired the creator of this doc to consult for the film, her caption kinda explains perfectly



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6/31
@Fluffyflowerpot
This is dope. So I think when little Lisa went across the road to fetch her mom to make the Jule sign for Smoke, that was the white side of the street? Hmmm. Going to see it again!



7/31
@thetrillgent
that’s what I thought back to as well.



8/31
@thetrillgent
everything with intention.

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Is another important character that must be heard to fully understand the narrative context of Sinners. One final thing to add is my immense appreciation and love for Ryan Coogler for involving the stories of the Mississippi Delta Chinese who fled to the South to... /8


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9/31
@FieryyTaurus
Did not know this at all until now, what a way to open up this conversation about history that may have not been talked about worldwide



10/31
@thetrillgent
same! It sparked my mind in the film but glad there was plenty of context



11/31
@tallyohhh
I didn’t know any of this, so now it really clicks having seen the movie. Love that they did so much research.



12/31
@SoulChild868


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They were literally placed in the blackest region in the US by white Devils for the sole purpose of taking away the wealth from essential services (grocery stores) that would have otherwise created a black elite with the community. They are not an asset to Blacks in any way!!


13/31
@SoSoulfull
Beautiful 👌🏽



14/31
@Jayforce




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15/31
@ScionStormTV
It's great that he respected the history. I didn't even know this, granted, I'm not from there. But it's great to know it happened.



16/31
@KCobrea
Serving the Black community or exploitation of the Black community.



17/31
@ForteCloud
A southern Chinese woman. Life is so random



18/31
@ABHISHE25221910
Ryan Kular is a good person: He offered a Sardhanjali which makes him great This looks at their morality



19/31
@GaryLGray
@itscrisplay



20/31
@MrTeeRed
First time I've seen a korean with a southern accent YOOOO 🤯



21/31
@therealdana7
Thanks for sharing this!



22/31
@shankarma1
Where did you watch this if you don’t mind me asking



23/31
@thetrillgent


[Quoted tweet]
It's a history that's rarely been talked about in mainstream American media. I think so far the only coverage I've known was from Al Jazeera Plus:

youtube.com/watch?v=2NMrqGHr…


24/31
@scarlettnuvvo
What doc is this



25/31
@thetrillgent




26/31
@ilovetsunami
This is fire… I love a director that does his proper research before just going in with his own vision.



27/31
@KeptxGod
This is so dope!



28/31
@OneTrueVillain
He did thier memory justice. It was an amazing movie 🍿 ❤️



29/31
@therealdana7
Actually, This has been going on since the civil war… post slavery.



30/31
@johnnymase_eth
Bro. Seeing an older Asian woman speaking with that southern accent is buggin me out!



31/31
@DavyDuhamel
I was wondering why that one shot held for so long when he crossed the street to get his wife.




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1/29
@SammyJReacts
Ryan Coogler knows how to write a morally complex antagonist



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2/29
@OhBe_Won
Trying not to spoil:

During that particular climactic musical scene where Remmick et al. were singing and dancing, I was so caught up in the swell that I was ignoring the obvious.

And…well…exactly.



3/29
@kaorrosi
Who’s the first one from? I think I missed a movie



4/29
@joebarr13
How was the character morally complex in sinners?



5/29
@firoz1501
Coogler crafts villains with depth and real motives.



6/29
@EnnufTea
Right I was siding with the vampire to an extent



7/29
@movietalkwithb
He does bruh. I’m trying to catch up to you. Round 2 completed



8/29
@ArielEsq305
I’m still on killmonger side 😂😂😂



9/29
@abdulvhad
: need to watch SINNERS



10/29
@paysnnn
Should’ve gave him dr doom



11/29
@heretoroasttim
Okay if we look at Sinners as just a film about symbolism that’s fine but as a Horror film I still think it was bland.



12/29
@rosesfortywild
Every time ! We don’t know whether to hate or empathize with the character. Chefs kiss.



13/29
@_SoulXD
Very dangerous



14/29
@Bl4M3TH3M0VI3S
It’s the dude from Eden lake



15/29
@Sharvissio
Yk what's crazy. I don't think the vampires killed anyone



16/29
@SlanderedOne
Remmick was SO compelling. One of the best interpretations of a charismatic vampire I've ever seen. Everyone had to take a pause and consider if maybe his way was best.



17/29
@alexissTyler
Constantly reminding the people that even “bad” people can make some valid fukking points 😭



18/29
@Jeronimobrat
Facts!



19/29
@MisunderstNomad
There's a reason he picks specific people in each movie, like Chris Nolan.

Also, MBJ mentioned for his role as KM, he actually got into a dark place IRL for the role

- Ignoring family
- Isolating himself
- Being selfish

Wouldn't be surprised if that was Ryan's idea.



20/29
@callumlyal73631
Wakanda was a race war movie



21/29
@_AzureTv
That vampire wasn’t morally complex, he was boring



22/29
@akaProbelmatic
Wakanda forever & the depiction of Namor were shyt



23/29
@ABHISHE25221910
Ryan Caller is a powerful opposition that can beat anyone



24/29
@jamesjonesesq
Namor does not belong.



25/29
@TajuHindi
Ryan Coogler be crafting villains that make you question your whole worldview.



26/29
@ahiran539625
Who's that first one again? I might’ve skipped a movie.



27/29
@RecruitBoss
Killmonger was horribly written and one dimensional.



28/29
@kavaRaramkarwas
"A jolt of a movie, Black Panther springs to life with great talent and feeling, partly through something Hollywood rarely even dreams of: myth,” Manohla Dargis began in the New York Times. “Most big studio fantasies take you out for a fun ride, only to hit the same tired story and franchise-expanding beats. This one doesn’t.” With Creed (2015), Ryan Coogler “revived the Rocky franchise by giving us an African-American champion played by Michael B. Jordan. For Black Panther, Mr. Coogler has brought back Mr. Jordan and some former crew members—including Rachel Morrison, the director of photography on his first feature, Fruitvale Station—a continuity that helps account for this film’s intimacy and fluidity."



29/29
@nostalgia_haze
Sorry black protags just don‘t work for me




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