They killed Alpo Martinez

[newarkhiphop]

Is there more of a snitch stigma now than then?

Azie told and was making rap records…Alpo told and was in magazines being called a “street legend” and “King of Harlem” and all the rappers were name dropping him.

Your confusing AZ the rapper with Azie the drug dealer associated with Alpo and Rich porter

 

[Frida Giezman]

Your confusing AZ the rapper with Azie the drug dealer associated with Alpo and Rich porter

Lol nah azie used to rap too

had a group called mob style

 

[newarkhiphop]

Lol nah azie used to rap too

had a group called mob style

my bad

 

[ISO]

Your confusing AZ the rapper with Azie the drug dealer associated with Alpo and Rich porter

Azie was trash production was good tho…

 

[Frida Giezman]

my bad

I remember Kay slay was dissing AZ for using that name and having a song called sugar hill

 

[ISO]

I remember Kay slay was dissing AZ for using that name and having a song called sugar hill

I’m saying nikkas naming themselves Shyne Po and AZ

Today in hip hop street rappers are so anti snitch that even if a dude had it on lock or was a notorious killer they wouldn’t name drop them much less name themselves after them

Even most the Alpo name drops is more on how he was getting money or how he betrayed Rich on some Cain and Abel type shyt outside of Jim Jones who called him a snitch but got backed down in person

 

[CBalla]

All I know is I seen Alpo get on the phone with Earner and had that nikka Earner quiet af after he told him a few sentences I dont wanna hear no shyt talk now from none of these youtube podcast guys or rappers

 

[Frida Giezman]

I’m saying nikkas naming themselves Shyne Po and AZ

Today in hip hop street rappers are so anti snitch that even if a dude had it on lock or was a notorious killer they wouldn’t name drop them much less name themselves after them

Kay slay was more so looking at it like AZ was tryna take azie’s image on some rick ross/freeway Ricky shyt

He wasn’t mad about AZ naming himself after a “snitch”

he said some shyt like “nikkas never even been to Harlem but got songs called sugar hill”

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[FreshAIG]

I’m saying nikkas naming themselves Shyne Po and AZ

Today in hip hop street rappers are so anti snitch that even if a dude had it on lock or was a notorious killer they wouldn’t name drop them much less name themselves after them

Even most the Alpo name drops is more on how he was getting money or how he betrayed Rich on some Cain and Abel type shyt outside of Jim Jones who called him a snitch but got backed down in person

"I'm Alpo, before you snitched dog" - Shyne "That's Gangster" 2000

Only person I remember referencing Alpo and not bringing up the snitching was LL really. and L ain't a street nikka.

Edit: Nevermind, Nas did too on Memory Lane

 

[louisvandross]

I’m saying nikkas naming themselves Shyne Po and AZ

Today in hip hop street rappers are so anti snitch that even if a dude had it on lock or was a notorious killer they wouldn’t name drop them much less name themselves after them

Even most the Alpo name drops is more on how he was getting money or how he betrayed Rich on some Cain and Abel type shyt outside of Jim Jones who called him a snitch but got backed down in person

Im grateful that new rappers don't name themselves after those racist ass ass mobsters. It looks like Yo gotti gone be the last big one

Also if they throw Alberto a parade Im looking forward to it getting shot up

 

[spliz]

Your confusing AZ the rapper with Azie the drug dealer associated with Alpo and Rich porter

Azie used to rap as well.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Alpo needs his own mini series from 50 Cent. His life is incredibly fascinating. I found a Facebook post from one of his friends in Maine who has a hard time reconciling that Abraham & Alpo are the same person. It's downright humorous how they're describing him.



This man was playing Mario Brothers and watching Star Wars with random ass white people. When he was growing up he was in the Fresh Air Fund and would take random summer vacations with to visit white families and one of them wanted to adopt him. It's almost fitting that he would spend the final years of his life like this......and chose to go back to the streets in the same manner he did as a teenager. It's like he blew his second chance at life.


Look at this shyt yo

 

[murksiderock]

Is there more of a snitch stigma now than then?

Azie told and was making rap records…Alpo told and was in magazines being called a “street legend” and “King of Harlem” and all the rappers were name dropping him.

I’m saying nikkas naming themselves Shyne Po and AZ

Today in hip hop street rappers are so anti snitch that even if a dude had it on lock or was a notorious killer they wouldn’t name drop them much less name themselves after them

Even most the Alpo name drops is more on how he was getting money or how he betrayed Rich on some Cain and Abel type shyt outside of Jim Jones who called him a snitch but got backed down in person

I came off the porch in 2004, which is effectively between the "now" (17 years ago from today) and "then" (13 years after Po's arrest) eras you brought up...

Snitching always carried a stigma back in the mid-00s, and I never got the impression it was a "new" stigma. You heard stories from guys from the 90s and 80s eras, and especially when I went up you were actually doing time with guys from even older than the 80s era. Not to mention at the time I started living that way, you had old ass rappers like Scarface dropping multiple anti-snitch tracks:





Brad himself is from that 80s era of street politics; these songs came out when I was a teenager in the mid-00s and fit right in with what guys I knew or knew of were saying---->I think I've mentioned before I was a huge Face fan as a teen so not for nothing but alot of his shyt gonna pop to me more than most lol...

Then you had Game with the G-Unot/Stop Snitching, Stop Lying campaign, you had the rumors of 50 being a snitch (Fif himself being from the 90s era), and I can't even count or recall the number of convos or scenarios I came across where snitching was a topic. So nah, I do not think it was more of a stigma before me, or during my introduction to that culture...

If anything I would say it's the reverse, snitching is more accepted today and applauded even. You couldn't vocally support snitching in years past, the snitch apologists today are up there in number with the anti-snitch crowd, it's damn near a 50/50 split. But also years ago people didn't talk about shyt as matter of factly that they weren't involved in; you didn't discuss street politics if that isn't how you were living...

I don't know if this is the explosion of so many mediums that heightened the spotlight on street culture or what, but I do know there was nowhere near this many snitch supporters...

I think what you're also noting with Alpo and Azie is something I've touched on prior, which is within street culture there's always been choosiness with the consistency of who gets away with what. There are guys who are known rats who cats defend and vouch for and live/allow to live amongst the public like it's nothing, Po and Azie were hardly the only ones of their kind. There are child killers, pedos, rapists, all kinds of cats who do deplorable shyt where in many instances those dudes are greenlit, but there's always a percentage of those guys who are defended and some who even live free and comfortable...

The fascination with street culture that has helped turn it into a hip-hop subgenre of entertainment over the decades has blurred the lines between reality and fiction, because people who were never intimately involved publicly have these assumptions that when ethics are broken (I use "ethics" lightly, obviously these are unethical lifestyles!), there is immediate and sinister consequences and retribution....

And it was never like that. Not in the United States of America. But this subgenre is consumed by mostly people who are on the outside looking in, or people who may have been connected in only the most basic, borderline ways, so lines get blurred. Alpo and Azie weren't the first known snitches to get voraciously supported and defended. Clearly not the last either...

You can be a legend and go out bad, that's real life. That really happens outside, it's part of the sport...

Lastly I don't know the Jim Jones/Alpo interaction, brush me up on that!

 

[ISO]

Lastly I don't know the Jim Jones/Alpo interaction, brush me up on that!

Alpo was in Jim’s hood he saw that his car was there a Suburban so he waited for him outside from down the block for awhile

Once Jim came out Alpo rolled up. Jim thought it was a fan and he had a lot of his peoples around him. Alpo rolled his window down and asked Jim if he knew who he was Jim said nah and he responded “I’m Alpo”. Jim responded “ohhh shyt” and Po put his hand out to shake his hand and brought Jim close and asked him if they was good. Jim said what you talking about Po and Po brought up the ghost of Rich Porter thing. Jim said “nah Po I got the upmost respect for you”.

It was his thing to pull up on people who talked about him and snap a picture with them