They attempted to sabotage Tariq Nasheed’s new movie.

[IllmaticDelta]

So you both have vast knowledge on the subject.
Know and accept that offline this is not an issue.

Yet would still go along with Tariq, who has ANOTHER agenda
An agenda of hate and xenophobia

You both know that
Yet are ok with the elders being tricked and potentially have their legacy tarnished

You are both ok with that

Shame

The elders (the ones that weren't interviewed that much) are the ones correcting HipHop history and killing false lies/myths.....they aren't being tricked into anything! They have no beef with Herc, West Indians or Ricans but they're not gonna let the lies continue! Even the guys who benefit from the lies (Baam and Flash and obviously Herc) have told the truth already but some people wanna keep repeating the lies

 

[Uncouth Savage]

The elders (the ones that weren't interviewed that much) are the ones correcting HipHop history and killing false lies/myths.....they aren't being tricked into anything! They have no beef with Herc, West Indians or Ricans but they're not gonna let the lies continue! Even the guys who benefit from the lies (Baam and Flash and obviously Herc) have told the truth already but some people wanna keep repeating the lies

Yes we have agreed the elders are not hateful people. They have no beef with WEst Indians or Ricans.
They are lifelong friends, neighbors, and even family.

Tariq does though.
Tariq is divisive and self interested.

HIs MAIN interest is not them or the music.
It is DIVISION.

The elders are there for music and to set the record straight.
NOT FOR DIVISION based on nationalism.

So can we agree that Tariq and the elders have different primary interests?
And that it is cruel to slickly include them into his interests

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Yes we have agreed the elders are not hateful people. They have no beef with WEst Indians or Ricans.
They are lifelong friends, neighbors, and even family.

Tariq does though.
Tariq is divisive and self interested.

HIs MAIN interest is not them or the music.
It is DIVISION.

The elders are there for music and to set the record straight.
NOT FOR DIVISION based on nationalism.

So can we agree that Tariq and the elders have different primary interests?
And that it is cruel to slickly include them into his interests

I already said Tariq might not be the best person for the job but he's the only one willing to do it. Too many people are being quiet because they don't want it to look like some anti-immigrant thing from Aframs but that's not Aframs' problem if those groups are offended by the truth

 

[Uncouth Savage]

I already said Tariq might not be the best person for the job but he's the only one willing to do it. Too many people are being quiet because they don't want it to look like some anti-immigrant thing from Aframs but that's not Aframs' problem if those groups are offended by the truth

I asked you if it is wrong for him to trick the elders and use them in a propaganda video?
One that can ruin their legacy
One that can make it seem as if they are agreeing with his views on West Indians and Ricans

It is not "might"
He is NOT the person to do such a video

You think the video is not being done cause folks scared to look anti immigrant?
Really?

Getting the message out seems to be more important to you than being truthful and honoring the elders
Tricking them
You should be ashamed for supporting this shyt

 

[Cadillac]

This thread done ballooned to 25 pages

And the doc not even out yet. Lol

 

[CodeKansas]

I asked you if it is wrong for him to trick the elders and use them in a propaganda video?
One that can ruin their legacy
One that can make it seem as if they are agreeing with his views on West Indians and Ricans

It is not "might"
He is NOT the person to do such a video

You think the video is not being done cause folks scared to look anti immigrant?
Really?

Getting the message out seems to be more important to you than being truthful and honoring the elders
Tricking them
You should be ashamed for supporting this shyt

"Trick the elders"

Lord, have mercy.

Now Tariq is a fukking mentalist on top of being a grifter.

Y'all nikkas got these goalposts on a fukking conveyor belt.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

"Trick the elders"

Lord, have mercy.

Now Tariq is a fukking mentalist on top of a grifter.

Y'all nikkas got these goalposts on a fukking conveyor belt.

Are those elders aware they in a propaganda documentary?
Are they aware Tariq has spent the past few years HATING blk immigrants and ricans?

We know they do not feel that way

Do you think if they knew tari was xenophobic and so hateful, that they would be in that documentary?

Do you care if the elders get caught up in some online bullshyt that they have no idea about?

 

[CodeKansas]

Are those elders aware they in a propaganda documentary?
Are they aware Tariq has spent the past few years HATING blk immigrants and ricans?

We know they do not feel that way

Do you think if they knew tari was xenophobic and so hateful, that they would be in that documentary?

Do you care if the elders get caught up in some online bullshyt that they have no idea about?

Stop treating these grown ass men as if they exist in a vacuum.

Like they filmed for this documentary and are only gonna discover its true "sinister" purpose after it's been released.

You're being far too dramatic.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Stop treating these grown ass men as if they exist in a vacuum.

Like they filmed for this documentary and are only gonna discover its true "sinister" purpose after it's been released.

You're being far too dramatic.

Like the others in here who share your views, you do not care for the elders.

Everybody would agree Tariq is all about money, and himself.
Yet you do not care about him using those folks.

Hey maybe I am dramatic, and it is not a big deal.
So what if they get caught up in this internet bullshyt.
Filled with bots, agents, and trolls.
So what, who cares for their legacy right.

I will leave it alone.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I asked you if it is wrong for him to trick the elders and use them in a propaganda video?
One that can ruin their legacy
One that can make it seem as if they are agreeing with his views on West Indians and Ricans

Did you not hear/read what I posted? Those people aren't being tricked at all, they AGREE with Tariq as far as the HipHop narrative goes.

It is not "might"
He is NOT the person to do such a video

he's the only person willing to do it

You think the video is not being done cause folks scared to look anti immigrant?
Really?

Yes. Did you look at the clip I posted with Crazy Legs? He said he knows of Herc's own peers who disagree with the Herc narrative but they won't say it on camera/make it official because they don't want to cause drama. Ricans don't want sh1t like this coming back to the surface if FBAs decide to put them on blast on how things really went down prior to the late 1970s/early 1980s lol

Getting the message out seems to be more important to you than being truthful and honoring the elders

the truth is coming directly from the elders!!!!!!!!

Tricking them
You should be ashamed for supporting this shyt

 

[No Sleep]

It's some babbling in here.

 

[HarlemHottie]

It's some babbling in here.

And only one group is advocating for the cultural erasure of another group of bp.

But they the ones running around calling ppl c00ns.

Disgusting, anti black behavior.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

Did you not hear/read what I posted? Those aren't people aren't being tricked at all, they AGREE with Tariq as far as the HipHop narrative goes.






the truth is coming directly from the elders!!!!!!!!

Here is something for you to research.
Since you love researching.

Who stabbed Kool Herc?
Who stabbed him and made him give up the party scene?

The answer to that might lie somewhere in the fact that some of these folks were beefing as teens.
Still hold grudges.
Still have issues.

One of your biggest issues is that you think you can tell where a blk person comes from
A blk puerto rican born and bred in America will go about as ANY OTHER BLK PERSON
A blk caribbean person born and bred in America will go about as ANY OTHER BLK PERSON

So when you are so fukkin sure, as to the percentages of who were rican vs caribbean vs blk american vs born here and know nothing else etc

YOU AND TARIQ are viewing this situation from the perspective of a nationalist

The elders are not
As I said, I will leave it alone.

If yall dont care, I should not fuss myself.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

After this documentary the arguments going on today about the origins of hip hop will continue as if the doc never existed, and Tariq will have collected his money.

I’m not even mad at him, breh collected $80k for his Mooreus app that doesn’t exist, and people still defended him. 4 years ago he said Museums were a waste of time and resources for black people, look where we’re at today. Going back and forth with people who decide to give him money is pointless.

Breh before Tariq none of his followers even cared about hip hop and the origins and now they all care about Hip Hop.

I respect his hustle and him pumping these followers

 

[blues_funk_reggae]

Breh before Tariq none of his followers even cared about hip hop and the origins and now they all care about Hip Hop.

I respect his hustle and him pumping these followers

A year ago they were all talking about how many stories the museum building would have, and how big the conference room & movie theater was gonna be

Fast forward to today, everyone is a hip-hop historian "searching for the truth"