not really.
you're talking about what we know NOW.
This is BEFORE the Church Committee too. The CIA was going around dropping people for sport.
A lot of the reforms the FBI underwent dont exist at this time.
They were using this as sheer blackmail.
They are trying to knock Martin Luther King Jr from the mountain....
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you're talking about what we know NOW.
This is BEFORE the Church Committee too. The CIA was going around dropping people for sport.
A lot of the reforms the FBI underwent dont exist at this time.
They were using this as sheer blackmail.
https://www.thecoli.com/posts/40671876/
The troubling legacy of Martin Luther King - Standpoint
Writing to President Lyndon B. Johnson just before Christmas, Newcombe explained that “I have information I consider highly classified” which “would be of great value to your Administration” but which he would furnish only to the president himself. Top Johnson aides Harry McPherson, Clifford Alexander, and Marvin Watson puzzled with great seriousness over Newcombe’s curious missive before Watson wrote back to say that the president was very busy but that Watson himself would welcome receiving Newcombe’s information. In early January Newcombe reached Watson by phone, and while Newcombe made clear that his information concerned Martin Luther King, he declined Watson’s request that he submit a fully detailed letter: “There are so many people involved and so many people that could possibly be hurt by this information that I find myself unable to put it down in writing.”
The FBI reported that an intoxicated King had threatened to jump out of a New York hotel window if Dolores Evans would not say she loved him, and that they believed he had fathered a baby girl born to her
Newcombe soon found his way to the FBI, and by February 20 an FBI report went to the White House detailing Newcombe’s information. Newcombe was an in-law of Dolores Evans, King’s long-time Los Angeles girlfriend, whom Newcombe said had been involved with King since 1962. Once when Evans was with King in a New York hotel room, Newcombe related, an intoxicated King had threatened to jump out a window if Evans would not say she loved him. The FBI quickly updated its existing summary report, “Martin Luther King, Jr, A Current Analysis,” to incorporate all of Newcombe’s information. Most shockingly, Newcombe “believes King fathered a baby girl born to this woman inasmuch as her husband is allegedly sterile. The child resembles King to a great degree and King contributes to the support of this child. He calls this woman every Wednesday and frequently meets her in various cities throughout the country.”
Following King’s death, a White House aide shared the Newcombe information with syndicated columnist Jack Anderson, who travelled to Los Angeles for what he described as “an emotional interview” with Dolores Evans, who insisted that her relationship with King had been “merely a friendship”. She told Anderson, “I didn’t call him. He called me,” and steadfastly “denied any intimacies”. When Evans’s daughter Chrystal, who had been born on October 30, 1964, married in 2003, her New York Times wedding announcement listed “the late Dr Theodore L. Evans, Jr,” as her father. The ceremony itself was performed by Martin Luther King’s closest surviving associate, Reverend Andrew J. Young. In a brief 2007 essay about fathers and daughters, Dr Chrystal Evans-Bowman, an only child, wrote that her parents separated in 1976-77 and reported that her father died in 1994. Dr Evans-Bowman, with whom the now 82-year-old Dolores Evans lives, has not responded to multiple requests for an interview with her mother.
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If any of this was true, they would’ve released to kill the movement and his character while they were at the peak. That was the entire point of their surveillance.
So you're saying people on black twitter and BLM operatives will take this information, and restructure/redirect the black movement if this information comes out?
Glad he banned. Wow
Brehs. I've been trying to talk about MLK and the FBI for a long time and the fact these files might change a lot of what people know about him if they fully release stuff in 2027
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...rtin-luther-king-jr-from-the-mountain.711094/
David Garrow wrote some amazing history and Samuel Pollard is the one who made EYES ON THE PRIZE, so they're both legit.
Garrow even tried to write an article about it but it was so controversial no one wanted to publish it... now its looking like...we're gonna have to grapple with this stuff.
Brehs. This article might enrage you...but you need to read it. Its the only place Garrow could get it published. https://www.davidgarrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/DJGStandpoint2019.pdf The troubling legacy of Martin Luther King - Standpoint (MIRROR: https://archive.is/OoE1v)
It was so controversial that people didn't know what to do 2 years ago...
I'm an MLK scholar – and I'll never be able to view King in the same light
His Martin Luther King Biography Was a Classic. His Latest King Piece Is Causing a Furor. (Published 2019)
How to Make Sense of the Shocking New MLK Documents
You can argue the transcripts are doctored and corrupt...but if theres tapes or video
and... if the FBI leaks these tapes... it could be... bad
I watched it. Its...legit.
They even had FBI agents and James Comey himself in there who said "some of this stuff isn't good to be honest"
The problem with surveillance is that they get the good AND the bad...
Roland interviewed Sam Pollard today and...everyone is lowkey pretty nervous about these tapes (@ 1:40:04)
In the end, this is ... all bad.
The FBI can just leak this stuff for ages and they're the ones who oversaw/observed/promoted the elimination of these giants...
Dude roland basically broke down why no one should even trust anything Hoovers FBI (FBI in general) has ever said or info they have. From tell all journals disappearing to hoovers own files disappearing once he died.
Second if you or anyone has elder family members who were in the civil rights movement (I do) they will tell you that law enforcement and the government were doctoring up files, spying on folks and trying to cause issues between groups and family members. Not just in the 60s or 70s but some of this shyt was still going on in the 80s. So if your parents or grandparents or aunts or uncles were in civil rights groups such as the Panthers, NOI, NAACP, CORE, SCLC and SNCC in the 60s and 70s. They most likely had FBI files on them and their kids and kept them active up through the 80s.
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IDK man. I really dont know.
I do know that the same weaknesses and tricks get used regardless.
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People don’t get how much king was hated.
It’s really not that big of a deal. King was a frat nikka from Morehouse. Come on, them nikkas run through hoes their entire lIves. If anything, this should make him more endearing because it shows King was a real nikka.
Breh was a 6 cert, 6 figure, (1)6 bytches coli nikka.
Breh was a 6 cert, 6 figure, (1)6 bytches coli nikka.
thats for people saying "why trust the FBI"
Well yeah, when its written shyt who knows...but AUDIO AND VIDEO?
Just answered that question in another post.
They sent the tapes to King and Coretta. Thats the point.
And this was BEFORE the whole sexual revolution so it was a behind the scenes thing.
Remember, this is WAY before a bunch of the Church Committee and other revelations of Cointelpro in the 70s revealed this shyt.
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When that audio drop....yall better stop juelzing.....Coretta heard that shyt and asked it to be sealed.....
@Originalman fix the quote.
