These so called NBA experts are either playing dumb or they simply don't know sh1t.

[SuikodenII]

If you've never played or coached with success professionally in any sport

Newsflash

You're not an expert.



These guys you routinely see are tv analyst with the sole purpose of talking out their ass for entertainment. Why? Because people would rather be entertained than informed.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

The draft trades and free agency are the only real ways to build a team. For a team like orlando it's better to take a chance getting someone in the draft who could be a superstar than Bynum or lopez making max money and being a treadmill team

that's a slippery slope though. yeah, the Magic could get incredibly lucky and win the draft on the rare occurrence a Durant, Duncan or Bron is available, or they could up like the Wizards, where so many seasons of futility created a a culture of incompetence that reached a level where they're incapable of developing what young talented players they do have.

basically, what the pro-tank crowd want small and mid-markets to do is this:

instead of making smart trades, accumulate assets, keep the fans engaged and uphold a culture of winning/accountability.

 

[mbewane]

The Magic got raped, all the picks they got were protected, they didn't even get unprotected pick, the hornets got a #10 pick and Eric Gordon for CP3, no reason the Magic couldn't have gotten a better package for the most dominating player in the league

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Like said before:
Marbury for Kidd
Allen for Payton
Kemp for Baker
Dominique for Manning

all stars? yes superstars?

Tmac for Francis

 

[tremonthustler1]

that's a slippery slope though. yeah, the Magic could get incredibly lucky and win the draft on the rare occurrence a Durant, Duncan or Bron is available, or they could up like the Wizards, where so many seasons of futility created a a culture of incompetence that reached a level where they're incapable of developing what young talented players they do have.

basically, what the pro-tank crowd want small and mid-markets to do is this:

instead of making smart trades, accumulate assets, keep the fans engaged and uphold a culture of winning/accountability.

That's what the Houston Rockets tried to do. It's a cute way of being called a treadmill team. In order to be comfortable with this, you have to dismiss any possibility of your team winning a title and permanently set your sights lower.

 

[Wacky D]

I feel you. That's why I felt the Nuggets made a mistake in that Melo trade. They got enough decent players back to still be a pretty good team. That means a whole lot of 1st round exits but no lottery.

Even though we know the NBA Draft Lottery doesn't really exist anyway.

and then eventually the big names leave once their contracts are up.

denver isnt a guaranteed 1st round exit. they are very dangerous and very deep. also, they have more than enough assets to make all sorts of deals, and they just got iggy. sure hes barely an all-star but hes gonna go off in that system.

and oklahmoma is a rarity. they drafted extremely well. most teams dont do that.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

That's what the Houston Rockets tried to do. It's a cute way of being called a treadmill team. In order to be comfortable with this, you have to dismiss any possibility of your team winning a title and
permanently set your sights lower.

well, for the plan to work you need a competent GM that actually actually has a vision for the franchise. his grand scheme was what? trading half the team for Pau and maxing out Nene so he could build around two 30 year old PF's on the decline? and when that didn't work, he tried to nuke the entire team so he could end up with a even worse version of the Orlando Magic. Morey can't even fail properly.

and you're right, that Rockets squad was absolutely a treadmill team, full of low-risk low-reward role players and peaked/declining vets. player development was never a priority, neither was rolling the dice on high reward projects. again, that's on their horrible management.

if Morey isn't the worst GM in the league, he's in the bottom 3.

 

[tremonthustler1]

well, for the plan to work you need a competent GM that actually actually has a vision for the franchise. his grand scheme was what? trading half the team for Pau and maxing out Nene so he could build around two 30 year old PF's on the decline? and when that didn't work, he tried to nuke the entire team so he could end up with a even worse version of the Orlando Magic. Morey can't even fail properly.

and you're right, that Rockets squad was absolutely a treadmill team, full of low-risk low-reward role players and peaked/declining vets. player development was never a priority, neither was rolling the dice on high reward projects. again, that's on their horrible management.

if Morey isn't the worst GM in the league, he's in the bottom 3.

Actually plan A was to sign Marc Gasol to pair up with his brother, which they did (Memphis wound up matching pretty quickly). That plan in theory made sense. You get Marc and Pau together along with Lowry as your PG, after you work on fixing the wings (which it looks like they've done at least with Chandler Parsons and now Jeremy Lamb), that's not a bad team at all. Morey put too many eggs on a longshot situation. He did the same thing with the pursuit of Dwight Howard. He has no fallback.

 

[Professor Polo]

Weren't the Nuggets a better team after they traded away Anthony?

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

and then eventually the big names leave once their contracts are up.

denver isnt a guaranteed 1st round exit. they are very dangerous and very deep. also, they have more than enough assets to make all sorts of deals, and they just got iggy. sure hes barely an all-star but hes gonna go off in that system.

and oklahmoma is a rarity. they drafted extremely well. most teams dont do that.

The NBA is a superstar league. The only way Denver is getting a superstar is through the draft. Maybe they can keep him, maybe they can't. But first they have to get one.

And yes, they are guaranteed to lose in the 1st round.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

if the Sonics had the first pick, they would have undoubtedly picked Oden too. getting #2 saved them from themselves (but nothing could save them from Stern and those demonic hicks in Oklahoma ).

you know what the "OKC model" is? freak luck.

They weren't going to pick oden. The GM said in a interview they didn't want oden because doing their research on him they found out one of his legs is a inch longer than the other. Which would eventually lead to bone/joint problems. Of course they couldn't let Portland know.

But you right the okc model is freak luck.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

i hated the orlando move, but lets not act like they didnt do the right thing by passing on humphries making 12m and brook making max/near max. being bad in the nba is about draft position yes, but also, ideally, about cap flexibility. they at least got a bit of that.

 

[Huellz Santana]

Orlando has got to be the luckiest team of the past 20 years when it comes to the draft
i guess they figured they'd try their luck again

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[FTBS]

Look at it like this: why pay an often injured C $102 mil for 5 years, the first three of them being wasted because your team sucks so much?

The team doesn't have to suck though. You bring Bynum in. Get rid of Hedo's contract. Keep Anderson. You make a couple good moves and you are a nice squad.

Might as well just let Dwight walk if you aren't gonna get shyt back for him. This deal benefited everybody but them. You gotta pay somebody, might as well be the other top two C in the L. What exactly was the point of involving Denver and Philly?

 

[FTBS]

Orlando has got to be the luckiest team of the past 20 years when it comes to the draft
i guess they figured they'd try their luck again

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Yeah...luck.