These illegal Mexicans getting these licenses in California

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Yea but it ain't like illegals are the only ones that every get paid cash or paid under the table. Anybody who gets paid that way will have a reluctance to report it.
DOesn't matter. Those people get dealt with regardless.

We're talking bout people who don't even exist in the eyes of the government.

Theres no 1099's being passed around here.

The IRS can pursue people spending money they can't report...because they get tracked.

Do you know what the word UNDOCUMENTED means?
 

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I've proven to you that they use fraudulent accounts to do this over and over again.

You just included using fake SSN's :mindblown:

Fake

Fake

Fake

Fraud is fraud. Stop condoning this bullshyt.

How can you just say this shyt? :what:


Because it's happening and its not going to stop. Its a part of life that will continue. Why are you so angry about it? The solutions that are being discussed like deporting everybody and building walls are not realistic.
 

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Because it's happening and its not going to stop. Its a part of life that will continue. Why are you so angry about it? The solutions that are being discussed like deporting everybody and building walls are not realistic.
I have plenty of reason to be mad about it in a macroeconomic sense.

It directly has harmed black citizens who can't compete for legal employment in low-wage, unskilled labor when we've already had to fight for employment in a white supremacist society.

Not all of us will get jobs as doctors and engineers. These are still crucial jobs that need to be fulfilled by citizens who have been historically wronged and marginalized.

Its unfair, its immoral, and its unjust.

Yeah. I'm pissed, especially considering that you've admitted to condoning fraud and coming up with the most fallacious arguments for supporting blatant, flagrant illegal migration for the fukk of it.

You're no friend of the United States when you talk like that.

Pick a side.
 

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I have plenty of reason to be mad about it in a macroeconomic sense.

It directly has harmed black citizens who can't compete for legal employment in low-wage, unskilled labor when we've already had to fight for employment in a white supremacist society.

Not all of us will get jobs as doctors and engineers. These are still crucial jobs that need to be fulfilled by citizens who have been historically wronged and marginalized.

Its unfair, its immoral, and its unjust.

Yeah. I'm pissed, especially considering that you've admitted to condoning fraud and coming up with the most fallacious arguments for supporting blatant, flagrant illegal migration for the fukk of it.

You're no friend of the United States when you talk like that.

Pick a side.

Seriously? A friend to the United States? Pick a side? :mjlol: There are no sides to pick, too much middle area.

Damn, this whole time, i thought you were serious in this thread.

If that's your angle, i can't go too much further in this thread. I'll just say this, the problems from illegal immigration were caused generations ago, and the solution will take generations to fix. It sounds easy to build a wall and kick everybody out, but i don't think that's a good solution. I think its good to educate people and provide a path to residency or citizenship. And im not saying just for illegal immigrants.

The problems that the United States has put upon black people is far worse than any impact from illegal immigration. But you picked your side I guess... good luck.
 

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Look living here in California and seeing and listening to these politicians out here it's about the latino vote and this fake far-left wing liberal shyt to appeased motherfukkers but these same politicians don't really fukk with mexicans on a social level except for maria cleaning they toilets....

look at the white/black flight stats out the state or old neighborhoods
 

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Yeah, I bet a small percentage go out of their way to do that. So what about the illegals that get paid under the table?:francis:

There's legals that do tha
Yeah. I am, actually. Millions of people itching for the chance to come here. Legally. Fairly. Equally. With skills and assets.

And you motherfukkers laugh in our faces while you cheat the system and ignore the very people in the bottom of our society and feign unity when it suits you and ignore us when it comes time to help us out.

All that shyt that you typed doesn't apply to me. I'm a citizen, I don't cheat the system, I've never taken anything from anyone, I've never received one cent from the government, I pay property taxes, I pay my taxes at the end of the year and every morning when I wake up I take a shower and go to work cause that's what my Papa thought me

With that being said, you can eternally eat a dikk fakkit.
 

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:what: dumbass mafukka hispanics where in this country before these white people so HOW ARE THEY ILLEGAL :what:



sound dumb as fukk.. they were here before white people, but some how they are the illegal immigrants ? :heh:



I fully expect 12 pages of dumb asses in here complaining about stupid shyt without looking at this image
Umm. Actually besides America other countries had inhabitants before they were conquered.That's the whole point of war back then. Conquer and manifest destiny.

So it's kind of stupid to say they were here first. Doesn't mean shyt if you couldn't protect what is yours. It's a new country. Now they are the illegal ones. Get the fukk out. :yeshrug:
 

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@ThreeLetterAgency out here claiming that the illegals shouldnt get low skill jobs cause they broke the law by coming over here for a chance to provide a better life for their family but then claim those same jobs should go to felons who broke the law themselves (most likely a worse crime then hopping the border illegaly to provide a better life for family), while already having the opportunity that these illegals are trying to provide for their kids.

I get your stance. Your claiming "to bad they were born on the wrong side" narrative and i get that. Youre looking out for the black community as you should.

My point is you getting mad at these illegal workers for

1) getting paid less money
2)willing to work harsher working conditions cause they have no choice, with no benefits

Breh you make it sound like they living the american dream just by jumpin the border. We live in the same hoods as the lower class, grow up in the same conditions, and get judged criticized gunned down by the white folk too. We know they feel we're inferior. We aint living in the hills off of strawberry fields breh. Its hard for us out here too. Add on to that, these conditions still better than that third world poverty that we came from, where instead of wondering if we had enough money for the lights, we hoping for bread and clean water. Thats why my momma came here.

I get you breh. You dont hate illegals but acknowlege that the influx of numbers is a problem. I do too. But this shyt aint black and white breh.

I seen the struggle that they livin out in a third world country. Breh i have cousins who were literally willing to die to come here. Walking through the desert for 2 days, seeing some of their companions die along the way and having to leave em there. Resorting to drinking cow piss for hydration. I have a cousin who came here to not have her son grow up where the cartels operate. They got deported and now he pushin weight. I have cousins who been held for ransom.

If i grew up there like my momma did, id do the exact same thing.

Breh you say get papers but we aint got the money or time for that. Take ten years, we might not have ten years.

I dont expect this to sway you. My point is this shyt aint black and white, right or wrong. Its about whether you grew up in the right side or the wrong one. We proud of our roots. But the country is being ran to the ground by corruption.

You mad at the workers for working less than minimum wage and harsher working conditions, while you should be mad at the employers who benefit the most out of illegal labor
 

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I just want to say that these white Mexicans or atleast mexicans that have more spanish blood in them. be playin around the fence

becasue dumbasses think Mexican is a race you have the whitest of them claim they are people of color
Check this one out!

Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits

By James Walsh

"On July 7, 2011, the U.S. Department of Treasury's inspector general for tax
administration issued a startling report entitled

"Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."

No wonder the nation's finances are in turmoil.

According to the Treasury report, foreign nationals not authorized to work
in the United States and ineligible for a Social Security Number (SSN) are
nevertheless receiving government help from the Internal Revenue Service
(IRS). The IRS currently issues undocumented aliens an Individual Taxpayer
Identification Number (ITIN) to facilitate their filing of tax returns.

Many illegal workers are paid in cash "under the table" and thus file no tax
forms at all; but a number of undocumented workers, according to the
Treasury report, are receiving public benefits contrary to federal and state
laws.

The CTC, ACTC, and EITC have come under review because of the significant
volume of Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) returns filing
for these credits using fraudulent data, such as names and SSNs.

**It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data.**

The Treasury report found that:

"One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement
(Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund."

The Treasury report notes that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) temporarily increased ACTC eligibility by changing the income threshold for calculating the credits in 2009 and 2010. The result was that in 2010, undocumented alien (ITIN) filers were able to claim higher tax refunds that totaled $4.2 billion. They represent an increase from $924 million in 2005.

It is clear that unauthorized aliens are filing ITIN tax returns with fraudulent data. The Treasury report found that “One common type of fraudulent refund involves taxpayers fabricating a Wage and Tax Statement (Form W-2) that shows excess withholding and results in a tax refund.”

Street-smart illegal immigrants are wise to the federal government’s incompetence.

Making matters worse, the U.S. Department of the Treasury, Accounts Management Taxpayers Assurance Program (AMTAP) has failed to take steps to notify U.S. taxpayers when it is obvious that their SSNs and names have been compromised.

The Treasury Report found “sufficient evidence” that the IRS took no steps to notify legitimate taxpayers that their SSNs, and sometimes their names, were used by undocumented aliens filing tax returns on regular or ITIN tax returns.

The Child Tax Credit (CTC) benefit also is being fraudulently used by illegal aliens.

The Treasury Report indicates that the IRS will discuss amending the Tax Code to limit eligibility for the CTC and ACTC. Meanwhile, in reply to suggestions of misfeasance, the IRS answers that the agency does not have the legal authority to verify and disallow CTC and/or ACTC applicants as to their qualifications including their residency claim."

Illegal Aliens Receive Billions in IRS Tax Benefits
Funny thing is some of these same mexicans(not all) will have issues if blacks get even a portion of reparations

Not just whites that will get mad.
 

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@ThreeLetterAgency out here claiming that the illegals shouldnt get low skill jobs cause they broke the law by coming over here for a chance to provide a better life for their family but then claim those same jobs should go to felons who broke the law themselves (most likely a worse crime then hopping the border illegaly to provide a better life for family), while already having the opportunity that these illegals are trying to provide for their kids.

Felons in the black community are still underemployed to their white counterparts.

Citizenship matters for something. Period.

I get your stance. Your claiming "to bad they were born on the wrong side" narrative and i get that. Youre looking out for the black community as you should.

My point is you getting mad at these illegal workers for

1) getting paid less money
I do. They undercut americans, and largely black americans, by doing so.
2)willing to work harsher working conditions cause they have no choice, with no benefits
Again, a safety issue that puts the entire healthcare system at risk and continually strains already dire resources.

Breh you make it sound like they living the american dream just by jumpin the border.
So? We all got a story.

We live in the same hoods as the lower class, grow up in the same conditions, and get judged criticized gunned down by the white folk too. We know they feel we're inferior. We aint living in the hills off of strawberry fields breh. Its hard for us out here too. Add on to that, these conditions still better than that third world poverty that we came from, where instead of wondering if we had enough money for the lights, we hoping for bread and clean water. Thats why my momma came here.
We all have a story.

What changes things is the rule of law.

We're talking decades of neglect and millions of instances of abuse of the system.

Lying isn't innocent. Deceit isn't innocent.

I get you breh. You dont hate illegals but acknowlege that the influx of numbers is a problem. I do too. But this shyt aint black and white breh.
It is for me. Either the law matters, or it doesn't.

Black americans NEVER get to stand up for anything that benefits them. We always have to have our necks out for everybody else and we're left holding the fukking bag.

I seen the struggle that they livin out in a third world country. Breh i have cousins who were literally willing to die to come here. Walking through the desert for 2 days, seeing some of their companions die along the way and having to leave em there. Resorting to drinking cow piss for hydration. I have a cousin who came here to not have her son grow up where the cartels operate. They got deported and now he pushin weight. I have cousins who been held for ransom.
America ain't the only country fam. I feel for them, but you gotta blame Mexico for that shyt.

If i grew up there like my momma did, id do the exact same thing.
ANd thats unfortunate but we can't provide for everyone.
Breh you say get papers but we aint got the money or time for that. Take ten years, we might not have ten years.
I have my own beef with the legal process to get through, but thats another topic...we're talking strictly illegal aliens.
I dont expect this to sway you. My point is this shyt aint black and white, right or wrong. Its about whether you grew up in the right side or the wrong one. We proud of our roots. But the country is being ran to the ground by corruption.
My parents are immigrants. They got their citizenship in 98 (I think?) and my whole family in the states did the same.

But they all came LEGALLY.

Paid fees

Took tests

paid dues

Ya'll can't just abuse the border because you're next door.
You mad at the workers for working less than minimum wage and harsher working conditions, while you should be mad at the employers who benefit the most out of illegal labor


I admit that theres a demand problem, but there too much "supply" in the first place.

I think the government should be way harder on all these employers abusing illegal status but its not helping that theres so many of them in the first place.
 

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Seriously? A friend to the United States? Pick a side? :mjlol: There are no sides to pick, too much middle area.

Damn, this whole time, i thought you were serious in this thread.

If that's your angle, i can't go too much further in this thread. I'll just say this, the problems from illegal immigration were caused generations ago, and the solution will take generations to fix. It sounds easy to build a wall and kick everybody out, but i don't think that's a good solution. I think its good to educate people and provide a path to residency or citizenship. And im not saying just for illegal immigrants.

The problems that the United States has put upon black people is far worse than any impact from illegal immigration. But you picked your side I guess... good luck.
Why the fukk can't illegal mexicans stop displacing black people and stop committing acts of fraud and tax evasion?

Are mexicans immune from following laws?

Black people can't go anywhere. This is our home. Ya'll can't just pretend like we don't have our own problems then turn your fukking backs to us and circle your wagons when we try to put ourselves on.
 

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There's legals that do tha


All that shyt that you typed doesn't apply to me. I'm a citizen, I don't cheat the system, I've never taken anything from anyone, I've never received one cent from the government, I pay property taxes, I pay my taxes at the end of the year and every morning when I wake up I take a shower and go to work cause that's what my Papa thought me

With that being said, you can eternally eat a dikk fakkit.
I don't give a fukk about your current status, all that matters is you've shown to condone illegal abusive behavior on a macroeconomic scale at the dispense of black americans who have eternally more legitimacy than some "woe is me" stories from south of the border.
 
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