There’s a serious war going on right now regarding Kamala Harris blackness and her lineage

[Artenche]

I think it’s tricky because the term AA has encountered a reappropriation of sort over time. The necessity of its creation stemmed from the question of BLACK AMERICAN identity and us grappling with our history of slavery and who we were beyond that ancestrally. It was a term directed at reclaiming our deeper roots beyond our existence in American Slavery, Jim Crow, Civil rights etc. During its popularisation in the late 80s that was its original etymological function.

However we aren’t a xenophobic/exclusivist people or culture so there’s a very Pan-Africanist acceptance of black immigrants who don’t come from that original lineage and by the time they are second generation Americans, one wouldn’t necessarily resist them blending into being “African Americans” as a whole. It becomes difficult tho because that term was originally used to describe our lineage and now it’s used in a much looser way and that presents unforeseen, rather interesting socio-political issues (like the one we’re having considering Kamala’s candidacy).

It also begs larger political questions like, if someone doesn’t come from that ADOS lineage, can they truly represent those interests effectively on a political stage? And even more interestingly, if not, then what do we do?

I agree, but that's because of white people. They did that shyt and are the reasons race and ethnic identity is so fukked up in this country. They made it so if you're black then you're black no matter where you come from which is what I was getting at in the first place. I think ADOS is an important distinction to make, but at the same time we have to acknowledge why things are fukked up in the first place. People in here were blaming other black Americans that weren't ADOS which I think is completely wrong. Also Kamala is dangerous for other reasons outside of identity politics and won't be getting my vote.

 

[Artenche]

I'm starting to think some of yall are legit slow. "African American" was invented for people who didn't know where they came from, you damn dummy. You, repping Haiti, would be Haitian- American, as yall are so quick to tell me irl.

I have seen BLACK people say, 'My family got here in the 70's, but we went through racism too.' Wtf is that supposed to be but a plea to be down??? Yes, I'm discounting it. Yall wasn't with us shooting at the gym, foh.

Keep building your walls. I ain't mad at you.

I played sports with plenty of ADOS growing up so I think they'd disagree with you. The Coli ain't reality.

Yeah no shyt I'm Haitian American but that's but what America documents me as. I'm not sure how else to spell this out for you.

 

[Artenche]

After Trump, anybody has a chance if they have the right game plan.

If the community supports Williamson's reparations advocacy, that will have an impact on how
the other candidates pivot on the issue.

But if the "black vote" rallies behind candidates that demonstrate either vague or invisible support for
reparations, then expect the issue to disappear soon from the political radar.

There isn't a chance she wins. White liberals are already shytting on her because of her background as a Spiritual Coach. Even though she has been vocal about reparations and the greed of rich white liberals.

 

[eXodus]

I agree, but that's because of white people. They did that shyt and are the reasons race and ethnic identity is so fukked up in this country. They made it so if you're black then you're black no matter where you come from which is what I was getting at in the first place. I think ADOS is an important distinction to make, but at the same time we have to acknowledge why things are fukked up in the first place. People in here were blaming other black Americans that weren't ADOS which I think is completely wrong. Also Kamala is dangerous for other reasons outside of identity politics and won't be getting my vote.

I respect that and my reasons for not supporting Kamala go beyond identity politics as well so we are the same there.

I just hope for two things

1. We continue to acknowledge ourselves as ADOS, as it is very important for the advancement of our socio-political strivings for justice and actual emancipation (we don’t fully have that, if we don’t have the economic power/household wealth to take care of ourselves with dignity in a capitalist society)

2. As we do that, I’m hopeful that you and others who have migrated here after our “emancipation” continue to see us as brothers connected to you by our “blackness”. I’m hopeful that my ADOS brothers and sisters (@HarlemHottie , @xoxodede ) will continue to see you the same way as well, as I promise to never forsake that.

 

[Elle Driver]

I just think it’s funny how she’s so pro illegal immigrants (to my knowledge she’s never spoken out about issues of Carribbeans) but did so much damage to the black communities of California. They’re trying to make her seem like she’s tough by pushing the busing issue with Biden which I respect but she’s married to a white man and she’s anything but pro black, ADOS or otherwise.

 

[Stone Cold]

They’re trying to make her seem like she’s tough by pushing the busing issue with Biden which I respect .

:Drizzysmile:

 

[Elle Driver]

:Drizzysmile:

Gah damn.

 

[eXodus]

:Drizzysmile:

“I think of busing as being in the toolbox of what is available and what can be used for the goal of desegregating America’s schools,” Harris said, according to The Associated Press report.

When asked to clarify if she supports federally mandated busing, Harris reportedly replied, “I believe that any tool that is in the toolbox should be considered by a school district.”


She’s so full of shyt, a politician’s politician who will say anything to further her career smh

 

[Reece]

nikkas calling me a cracker because I don’t want to tear down the only black woman in the race Even if you don’t like her there’s no reason to be this disrespectful to a black woman that’s in the public light and represents us whether you like it or not. fukking twilight zone.

 

[eXodus]

nikkas calling me a cracker because I don’t want to tear down the only black woman in the race Even if you don’t like her there’s no reason to be this disrespectful to a black woman that’s in the public light and represents us whether you like it or not. fukking twilight zone.

I would hope no one is calling you a cac or attacking you for supporting her, she does have some redeeming qualities despite the things that have pushed me not to support her in the primaries.

I think the majority of her opposition on here has been measured and based on her past political and judicial record as opposed to her racial makeup or anything that falls under “identity politics” I also haven’t read anything that was particularly “disrespectful” being aimed at her in this thread.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

@Killmonger
Gawt damm u must me having a fit


You stay making threads about what you are self conscious about


-your racial identity (being a Black immigrant)
-being short with all them threads shyting on short dudes pretending like u ain't short yourself


-your being gay

 

[Standing on business]

@Killmonger
Gawt damm u must me having a fit


You stay making threads about what you are self conscious about


-your racial identity (being a Black immigrant)
-being short with all them threads shyting on short dudes pretending like u ain't short yourself


-your being gay

All types of wrong.

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

I just think it’s funny how she’s so pro illegal immigrants (to my knowledge she’s never spoken out about issues of Carribbeans) but did so much damage to the black communities of California. They’re trying to make her seem like she’s tough by pushing the busing issue with Biden which I respect but she’s married to a white man and she’s anything but pro black, ADOS or otherwise.

Alot of her damage in Cali came in bay area. She also helped gentrify it

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

All types of wrong.

Sure Frank Matthews


Remember how u kept making threads about Jamie Foxx shirtless
And all them hairline threads


U a gay, short, bald, immigrant


Stan the hell out Beyonce
Bet u can't name 1 singer from the African country u actually from tho



Bet u don't know shyt about the political party in your home country tho

 

[Elle Driver]

Alot of her damage in Cali came in bay area. She also helped gentrify it

She so proud to be from there though.