There is absolutely no chance Jeb Bush loses the 2016 presidential election

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How much do people respect Hillary Clinton? Her entitled to the presidency approach? Her fugazi talking down to the masses...its very...rebpublike imo
shes not winning either. shes going to get bypassed by a better candidate like she did last time, her views are too center and the demo party leans more left now a days. :childplease: #Sanders

Truth be told Ron Paul heck even Nader would have won the demo party, Sanders wised up and is actually running for the right party, the other idiots ran for the wrong party, Ron was never going to win the republican party, ever, about time someone smartened up. By Sanders running demo, you already know he knows what time it is.
 
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shes not winning either. shes going to get bypassed by a better candidate like she did last time, her views are too center and the demo party leans more left now a days. :childplease: #Sanders

Truth be told Ron Paul heck even Nader would have won the demo party, Sanders wised up and is actually running for the right party with the same ideology. about time someone smartened up.
I hope so
 

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Add Michigan.

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Michigan hasn't gone red (or even been that close) in like 30 years. :heh:
 

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I hope so
He's an independent switching to democrat for the races to strip them of their crown. watch. this dude is very smart. he's extremely intuitive and has ears on the ground, even better than Obama did when he came out. I dont know who his campaign manager is, but he's on point. Sanders was the first to call SC shooting a racist attack, the nikka just won the southern black votes in one swoop. He's almost neck and neck with Hilary who has far too much dirty laundry (which Obama already aired out during their run). She's a known flip flopper and corporate kronie, no ones taking her serious once the debates start and Sanders reminds the public of her wrap sheet.

The only thing that worries me, is although Sanders has a very very good wrap sheet which echos the public, he's jewish. He's not a practicing one, in fact he sides against israeli strong arming, but the word 'jewish' will make a lot of 'christian' folks uncomfortable. at the same time, I'm hoping his jewish identity will keep the jews from attacking him for not being their corporate lap dog. 'the first jewish president' is a card he could use on them, even tho he doesn't support them, nor considers himself jewish by religion. jews have connection and not all of them are zionists. christians will try to attack him, but he could use the 'holocaust card' (which he has). we just have to wait and see.

but first things first. Hilary.

Jeb ain't even going to win his own primaries, so I dont even need to discuss him.
 

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Do you know the direction the state is going? 2 term red govenor? Flight from detroit has decimated detroit and given grand rapids way more juice. The state getting sonned out by Republicans right now. Gtfoh

What does the governor have to do with anything? California had a two-term Republican governor and never had a chance in hell of going Red. Hell, we had John Engler as governor for several terms and Michigan still went Dem every election. You can't apply the results of a governor race to a presidential race. :heh:

And Detroit being "decimated" is neither here nor there, most of the people that left just moved elsewhere in the state. There's absolutely no indication that the electoral vote results will be any different than in the last 20+ years. The vast majority of people will vote for the same party they always voted for.:heh:
 

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Do you know the direction the state is going? 2 term red govenor? Flight from detroit has decimated detroit and given grand rapids way more juice. The state getting sonned out by Republicans right now. Gtfoh


I've heard Grand Rapids is like the Brady Bunch.
 

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It's Hilary's race to lose. The electoral map is in her favor. She can win all the states Obama won and still be competitive in some of the Southern states where Obama lost handily.

The only thing keeping Dems from totally dominating is the fact that Dems don't come out in midterm elections.

With all that said, I still think Hilary can blow it. She doesn't have the political chops of Obama or Billy Clint.
 
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What does the governor have to do with anything? California had a two-term Republican governor and never had a chance in hell of going Red. Hell, we had John Engler as governor for several terms and Michigan still went Dem every election. You can't apply the results of a governor race to a presidential race. :heh:

And Detroit being "decimated" is neither here nor there, most of the people that left just moved elsewhere in the state. There's absolutely no indication that the electoral vote results will be any different than in the last 20+ years. The vast majority of people will vote for the same party they always voted for.:heh:
We'll see. I just see complacency and really poor candidates from the blue and a strong candidate with bottomless pockets and a super establishment background from the red.
 

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Add Michigan. Idk about Wisconsin and Minnesota tho. And you forget..

Those states were choosing between Obama and Romney...with a split GOP.

The electoral college resets every election.

So, those same voters plus and minus some choose between JEB BUSH and Hillary Clinton

One will be more compelling than the other and more polarizing....I do not see a way that Clinton can get the democrats out in the force that Bush will get the GOP

..this can significantly move states like Wisconsin Michigan Florida Virginia, etc.
Jeb has no chance of beating Clinton in MN MI or WI, and is a long shot for VA.

He doesn't have FL on lock either. He and Clinton are polling neck and neck there, and FL went blue the last 2 cycles.

But let's give him FL and assume he carries all the states Romney did. That puts him at 235.

Let's be generous and give him VA too. He's still at 248 and needs 22 more electoral votes somehow.

I just don't see it. shyt, he could win OH too and still be 2 electoral votes short.

There will be a new crop of voters who will be 18+ that weren't in 2012, and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat, while the GOP's base is literally dying.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-dying-off-literally-118035.html#.VYzRp1L3bCQ

His wife being hispanic won't be a factor. I think Obama locked up the hispanic vote for the Dems for at least a generation with his immigration bill actually.
 

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Also, the black vote will be energized against Jeb once that video of him saying he wouldn't do anything for black people in 1994 gets used in attack ads.

His people must've done a good job of scrubbing it from the internet because I can't find it. It's real though...no one less bytch in a roc-a-wear coat. I've seen it on TV. I think he was on a plane when he said it. You can google it. There's plenty articles about it.

That and him purging black voters from the rolls in 2000 will energize the black vote for the Dem.
 
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