There is absolutely no chance Jeb Bush loses the 2016 presidential election

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Jen Bush is a very low energy guy. There is no question about that. The country needs a high energy person like Trump. We need tremendous energy, tremendous smarts and the cunnings of a fox to make this country great again.

@Ed MOTHEREFFING G, wrong again as usual. #Loser

@Brown_Pride,

Ban this loser. Making the forum look bad.

This is a tremendous post. We need more quality posters like you if we're going to beat China and take this forum from #8 to #1.
 

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First Read: August's 2016 Winners and Losers
The 2016 winners and losers of August

This past weekend's new Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll of Iowa perfectly captures the presidential candidates who won August and the summer -- and those who didn't. The winners on the Republican side: Donald Trump (who's in first place in that Iowa poll at 23%) and Ben Carson (second at 18%). The winner on the Democratic side: Bernie Sanders, who has surged 14 points since May and now trails Hillary Clinton by just seven points in Iowa. The loser of August on the Democratic side? It's Clinton, of course, whose lead in the Hawkeye State has dropped from 41 points to just seven (!!!) in the span of three months. The losers of August on the GOP side: Try Scott Walker (who is now tied for third with Ted Cruz in Iowa -- the state where he was seen as the clear frontrunner), Jeb Bush (who's tied for fifth), and Marco Rubio (ditto). (Our friend Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report has a similar list of winners and losers; great minds think alike.) What do Trump, Carson, and Sanders all have in common? They're political outsiders who are FAR from your business-as-usual politicians. Indeed, the Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll finds 62% of GOP Iowa caucus-goers and 60% of Dem caucus-goers saying they're dissatisfied with politicians in general.




He or she who wins August doesn't necessarily win in the end

But keep this in mind: During the last three presidential cycles (2004, 2008, 2012), the winners of August didn't go on to capture the presidential nomination. In 2004, the undisputed winner of the summer was Howard Dean, who ultimately finished third in Iowa and won only his home state of Vermont in the 2004 primaries. In 2008, Hillary Clinton was crushing Barack Obama in the August before the nominating contests, while John McCain was essentially given up for dead during that summer. And in 2012, the August winners were Michele Bachmann (who won the Iowa Straw Poll) and Rick Perry (who soared in the polls after his presidential launch). Now if Trump/Carson/Sanders end winning in February and capture their party's nomination, we'll look back on this August as the turning points for them. But if they don't, they'll join Dean, Hillary, Romney, Rudy, Bachmann, and Perry. One other point: While the Des Moines Register poll is the unquestioned gold standard in Iowa, it widely differs from the other August polling, which found Clinton up about 20-30 points in the Hawkeye State.



Why everyone needs to pay more attention to Ben Carson

For all of the attention Trump and Sanders have received this summer, it's striking how little coverage the other August winner -- Carson -- has gotten by comparison. That, folks, needs to change ASAP. In the Des Moines Register poll, Carson is tied with Trump when you add up the first and second choices. He also enjoys the highest fav/unfav score among GOP caucus-goers:

  • Carson: 79%-8% (+71)
  • Walker: 71%-15% (+56)
  • Fiorina: 64%-15% (+49)
  • Rubio: 67%-20% (+47)
  • Jindal: 61%-18% (+43)
  • Cruz: 61%-24% (+37)
  • Huckabee: 61%-30% (+31)
  • Trump: 61%-35% (+26)
  • Bush: 45%-50% (-5)
  • Paul: 39%-49% (-10)
  • Christie: 29%-59% (-30)
 

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Trump has no filter

that is actually bad

because he's going to say something absolutely reprehensible and it will submarine him

you know its coming

he will say something like

"Mr. Trump, what are your thoughts on the israel / iran conflict"

"well you know, i have a lot of friends who are close to isreal and i hope they do well in the future, and Iran is a a terrorist state, but what mr obama did is with the iran isreal deal is a disgrace, and as soon as I'm in office i'll tear it up. What else can you expect from a kenyan muslim though, and really, out of a black man. I mean, we're dealing with total wastes here in terms of the muslims and blacks, so i'm not surprised at all. Personally i'd let iran and isreal just fight it out and let both the jews and muslims kill each other. They're both a total waste of time"

or

"the thing about hillary is that she is totally devoid of leadership qualities, and thats where I excel. but she's a woman, both her and florina are unfit to lead because they lack a Y chromosone. Its not their fault, they're women, they can't lead"

and just totally make himself unvotable. it WILL happen, and the GOP will reset.



i'm doubling down.
 

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Trump has no filter

that is actually bad

because he's going to say something absolutely reprehensible and it will submarine him

you know its coming

he will say something like

"Mr. Trump, what are your thoughts on the israel / iran conflict"

"well you know, i have a lot of friends who are close to isreal and i hope they do well in the future, and Iran is a a terrorist state, but what mr obama did is with the iran isreal deal is a disgrace, and as soon as I'm in office i'll tear it up. What else can you expect from a kenyan muslim though, and really, out of a black man. I mean, we're dealing with total wastes here in terms of the muslims and blacks, so i'm not surprised at all. Personally i'd let iran and isreal just fight it out and let both the jews and muslims kill each other. They're both a total waste of time"

or

"the thing about hillary is that she is totally devoid of leadership qualities, and thats where I excel. but she's a woman, both her and florina are unfit to lead because they lack a Y chromosone. Its not their fault, they're women, they can't lead"

and just totally make himself unvotable. it WILL happen, and the GOP will reset.



i'm doubling down.
You are 100% right that Trump is about to ether himself soon. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" birther bullshyt will come back to bite him in the ass.
 

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You are 100% right that Trump is about to ether himself soon. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" birther bullshyt will come back to bite him in the ass.

At which point he'll run 3rd party. He's been too gassed up at this point, he's past the point of return.

No other Republican candidate has a chance if they lose the hillbilly racist voters to Trump, that's how they've been winning since Nixon and they don't know any other way. Maybe Jeb can go for that VP spot. :francis:
 
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