the whites and the japanese deserve a lot of credit for hip hop

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

lets be real, the Japanese (specifically mr nakamuru) created the drum machines from the tr-707 to the 808 to the 909.

many hip hop artists simply took the beats off those machines and rapped over them. the grooves, sounds and programming was done by the Japanese.(especially because many of the early drum machines could not be user-programmed)

then you have the 'funky soul' of people like prince and who owe their sound to the linn LM-1 drum machine which was created by a white. the creator of the linn lm-1 was the first person to ever use digital samples in a drum machine.

so it seems hip hop actually is a universal human culture, its not owned by any one race. especially with the fact that many of the most classic hip hop samples were straight loops taken from whites like bob james and david axelrod.

we could go deeper, and we will; this is an interesting discussion.

For hip-hop?
Really?
Win lose

Sounds is platform form blacks managed, dominated and marketed.

Beyond black musicians influences, label marketing, and musicianship, talent and hustle on stock sounds are just royalty free stock sound in a keyboard for any one to use.

 

[ILLMMORTAL]

if everyone unites to put me down, then im glad to unite everyone. if you find love and community in tearing me apart, then let the gay parade begin!

UR HILARIOUS!

 

[ThaRealness]

 

[KravenMorehead™]

 

[ThaRealness]

Lets not forget the Chinese factory workers who grind day and night to manufacture our MPCs


Standing on the line all day like 'I know Darringer bout to cook up some heat on this'

 

[3rdWorld]

Jap tech was instrumental yes..but we also sampled old blues, gospel and soul records so at the end of the day with or without the Japs we a creative people so wed still progress regardless..but I credit the Japs as the biggest contributors to hip hop other than Blacks. Id also argue the Japs contributed more than the Latino's and whites

 

[Heelish]

 

[Youngblood Priest]

I know this thread is old but, NO. HELL NO!!!! I don't give a fukk who made what. Black folk took their lil inventions or whatever and did what black people do. Create. fukk you mean cacs and japs helped. Not motherfukker.

 

[War Word the Arch Angel]

"
Did you ever hear your own music played in those clubs?

No, no, not really. But "Riot in Lagos" was a big influence, I heard. Also, when I met Africa Bambaataa, Yellow Magic Orchestra and Kraftwerk MADE hip hop happen, he said. [laughs] I was grateful." -ryuichi sakamoto

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Damn this thread is a good indicator of undercover whites

 

[DaveyDave]

lol, ok I need to go deeper.

much of the early soundscapes in hip hop was created using synthesizers like the moog which were created by dr robert moog, a white. then the classic breakdancing robot voice comes from a vocoder.

African bambaata created his sound by using vocoder(created by americans in the 30's) and Fairlight synths(which ironically is an Australian invention, shout out iggy)

then we can move on to the mpc which was also created by someone who is now appearing to be one of the fathers of hip hop, roger linn.

sampling was a cornerstone in early hip hop, and where would hip hop be without samplers?

i believe the first sampler was an Australian invention too but that doesn’t mean Aussies deserve a mention as pioneers and founders of the culture. It means that the producers of the time took something and used it differently to how it was meant to be used. Samplers weren’t designed to chop kicks and snares and make whole new drums out of that. They weren’t made to take 2 seconds of an old song and make a new song. That was ingenuity and creativity from cats like Marley Marl etc. that doesn’t mean that Joe Bloggs from Sydney should be recognised alongside Kool Herc and Grand Wizard Theodore.

 

[It's_Nade]

"
Did you ever hear your own music played in those clubs?

No, no, not really. But "Riot in Lagos" was a big influence, I heard. Also, when I met Africa Bambaataa, Yellow Magic Orchestra and Kraftwerk MADE hip hop happen, he said. [laughs] I was grateful." -ryuichi sakamoto

fakkit

 

[Pop123]

Just buy the music and keep revering black culture, I aint got no credit to give none of them people

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Black People create something and it's, " everything on earth was created by a collection of hands from different races, friend, Planetary Fusion!".

Other races create something and its, " this shyt is ours, go back to Africa n!993r"