The United States is unequivocally at war with Russia

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The irony is that everything you've listed comes from china, without them you wouldn't have any of this either :skip:
This is true but this is a strategic proxy war as other have pointed out

Russia, China, North Korea are all GANG

They support each other and are a threat to America and its allies interests, namely resources

As someone pointed out before, this is why India has been relatively quiet in this whole thing because they know if China really does go to Taiwan and invade then all that chip manufacturing and what not goes to India. It's happening right now actually, with Apple moving some of their manufacturing to India.

This is why long before this started, many of us were pointing out that there will never be a WW3 because no one wants to eradicate the human race

It will just be small proxy wars over resources

Ukraine is a huge resources for the EU in terms of grain
 

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You overplay the impact Afghanistan had on the collapse of the USSR

It was reformists like Gorbachev and nationalists like Yeltsin who ended it. They wanted McDonalds and ethno-nationalism.
Yeltsin will forever be Russia's biggest disappointment
 

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You overplay the impact Afghanistan had on the collapse of the USSR

It was reformists like Gorbachev and nationalists like Yeltsin who ended it. They wanted McDonalds and ethno-nationalism.
Russia did all of that to institute an American friendly government aka "puppets." That Afghanistan war and the sanctions imposed by the USA caused Russia's collapse. Russia even freed East Germany trying to appease the USA, but the USA wanted more so the Soviet Union broke apart.
 

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Russia did all of that to institute American friendly governments aka "puppets." That Afghanistan war put land the sanctions imposed by the USA caused Russia's collapse. Russia even freed East Germany trying to appease the USA, but the USA wanted more so the Soviet Union broke apart.
China learned a valuable lesson from trying to appease the man with that North Korea fiasco . There is no playing nice with the man because he wants control & dominance over you . You have to show strength with him
 

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Russia did all of that to institute an American friendly government aka "puppets." That Afghanistan war and the sanctions imposed by the USA caused Russia's collapse. Russia even freed East Germany trying to appease the USA, but the USA wanted more so the Soviet Union broke apart.

You gotta watch interviews with Boris Yeltsin and Gorbachev and review the referendums that took place on continuing the Soviet Union that RUSSIA rejected. Not to mention the coup attempt in 1991.

That’s all I’ll say for now.
 

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China learned a valuable lesson from trying to appease the man with that North Korea fiasco . There is no playing nice with the man because he wants control & dominance over you . You have to show strength with him
But then China turned right around and are now letting the USA bait them with Taiwan.
 

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Russia has been our enemy for quite some time. Interfering in our presidential election is an act of war. Fighting with Ukraine solidiers instead Americans is fine with me.
Get the fux outa here with that nonsense , we've interfered in everyone's elections , overthrew democratically elected governments & destabilized so many countries , created so many banana republics . Spied on every leader , killed millions unchecked , spread the most propaganda & misinformation . We've signed treaties & ripped them up a year later . let's look back from the early 1900's & see what countries committed the most genocide.
 
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At best Russia is on the verge of a major military stalemate, at worse they are marching towards a complete defeat/failure. There's a clear path for the US to ensure a collapse of the Russian government and removal of Putin. At this point Russia has failed to take the Donbas region and they're currently being wrecked in Crimea. Ukraine could end up with MORE territory by the end of this, which almost seems ludicrous to say out loud but here we are.
 

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At best Russia is on the verge of a major military stalemate, at worse they are marching towards a complete defeat/failure. There's a clear path for the US to ensure a collapse of the Russian government and removal of Putin. At this point Russia has failed to take the Donbas region and they're currently being wrecked in Crimea. Ukraine could end up with MORE territory by the end of this, which almost seems ludicrous to say out loud but here we are.

Americans are playing with fire.

Russia will probably always have a role to play in Eurasia - whether it is the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation.

However, unlike say 1917, Russia has thousands of nukes. What is the Western goal? It certainly should not be the disintegration of Russia or a new Russian civil war.
 

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You gotta watch interviews with Boris Yeltsin and Gorbachev and review the referendums that took place on continuing the Soviet Union that RUSSIA rejected. Not to mention the coup attempt in 1991.

That’s all I’ll say for now.
The Soviet Union could not hold their provinces due to the pressure the USA applied during the Cold War. The USA made them engage in an arms race which was ridiculous considering that the Soviet Union was a planned economy rather a market based economy. So Gorbachev didn't just decide to change. He was forced into change because of economic pressures and the constant direct wars and proxy wars in place like Central Africa that the Soviet Union was fighting against the USA.
 

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The Soviet Union could not hold their provinces due to the pressure the USA applied during the Cold War. The USA made them engage in an arms race which was ridiculous considering that the Soviet Union was a planned economy rather a market based economy. So Gorbachev didn't just decide to change. He was forced into change because of economic pressures and constant direct wars and proxy wars in place like Central Africa

This isn’t true, which is why I suggested that you study the 1991 referendum.

Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus and other major Soviet republics wanted to continue the USSR until the attempted coup of 1991. The majority of their populations in a free vote, the first time in Soviet history, wanted to continue the USSR.

A lot of people in the West aren’t aware of that.

1991 Soviet Union referendum - Wikipedia
 
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