The UK’s CMA has expressed concern that Microsoft‘s Activision merger could “significantly weaken” PlayStation (Updated with lawyer breakdown)

[5n0man]

You misundrestand capitalism. The basis of it is the people with the capital have all the advantages. It is very much legal for companies to buy other companies. Have you seen Amazon? Google? Facebook? Sony has engaged in anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior. They've used their position as a dominant force to damage their competition. It enshrined them in their position of dominance and keeps them there.

Weren't Google, Amazon, and Facebook recently in front of congress over anti trust issues?



What anti competitive business practices has Sony engaged in? How have they used their position to damage competition? Just because Microsoft fukked themselves during the 360 era and then nearly abandoned the gaming industry when the kinect failed to live up to the wii's success doesn't mean Sony did anything to damage Microsoft.

Sony dug themselves out of a hole after the ps3 by offering better products while Microsoft screwed their own market share trying to copy Nintendo.

The fact that you think someone will come into the industry and boot strap their way into any level of real competition with Sony is so laughable I don't even think you believe it. It took one of the largest companies in the world in Microsoft to even make a small dent in their marketshare and Sony dominance has in part contributed to companies with more talented developers than Microsoft like SEGA exiting out of the console market entirely as well as shifting Nintendo to the Blue Ocean strategy and a different customer base.

Microsoft did it before with the 360 before they tried following the wii and chasing the casual market, Nintendo did it in the mobile game market, the wii, and is currently doing it again with the switch, just by having more innovative products.

And Sony had nothing to do with Sega exiting the console market, Sega did it to themselves by releasing 3 failed consoles, pissing off 3rd parties, and going to war with themselves in that SoA vs SoJ beef.

You're literally making shyt up.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Dudes just rewriting history in here to justify MS becoming an oligopoly.


"The scrappy underdog MS can only compete by buying up every publisher."

Embrace, extend, and extinguish - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[5n0man]

The only reason Sony is where they are with playstation is because they had money, came in the game, didn't like what Nintendo was doing because they didn't want to use CDs so Sony with there big pile of money said screw a joint project and made there own system that pushed there own product aka CDs.




Sony Stan's are nuts

Breh, you said Sony is where they are now because they had money, then mention the fact that they created a more innovative product (one that was originally made for Nintendo) and won over developers and consumers with a console that was cheaper, easier to develop for, and allowed for bigger and more creative games.

That's literally the definition of dominating through innovation. That's not anti competitive.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Nintendo is and has forever been such a garbage company. They abused developers and publishers for years. The anti-competitive behavior they engaged in would make Sony blush.

Sony simply stepped in and filled a void as a competent company that treated developers and publishers well and responded to their request and everybody ran to them. SEGA was alienating everybody churning out product after product trying to get a foothold.

People wanna act like Sony was this plucky upstart that dethroned Nintendo by simply making great games. The actual truth is that for the whole PS1 generation and most of the PS2 generation Sony had the entire industry minus SEGA, Nintendo, and Microsoft working on their platform with a combined effort the industry hasn't seen the likes of since. They were the defacto platform for console gaming.

Once people pick a brand and ecosystem they're inclined to stay in that barring some major event. Nintendo decided to compensate for that by chasing after customers that aren't in Sony's primary target demographic. They also get a lot of the ex-Nintendo fans from the SNES days back many of whom switched to Sony. They buy Nintendo as a second console which they're fine with.

The 1st part isnt really true. While nintendo did have the gaming industry in a headlock when it came to games and what devs were ultimately going to be able to make, your being a bit extra. Again not totally false but also not that egersis.


Sony simply provided a easier platform to develop on, that was cheaper and allowed for cinematic and 3d games, Every single dev and publisher like you said was down for that and they all pretty much worked in unison to make the games they wanted on the newest hardware and software that allowed them to bring there art to life in a way that cartridge games couldn't


I agree with everything else.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Breh, you said Sony is where they are now because they had money, then mention the fact that they created a more innovative product (one that was originally made for Nintendo) and won over developers and consumers with a console that was cheaper, easier to develop for, and allowed for bigger and more creative games.

That's literally the definition of dominating through innovation. That's not anti competitive.

Again you stanning hard so you blinding yourself, if you don't think what microsoft has done with bringing high speed internet to casual gaming with the OG xbox, online gaming and what they are doing with gamepass, and xcloud, isn't innovated in the space I don't know what to tell you.

You know how many people I know personally that got ethernet cables and higher speed internet just to plug into the OG xbox...


Can you name me any other companies that are innovating in these areas that I can get all these things from?

 

[5n0man]

Again you stanning hard so you blinding yourself, if you don't think what microsoft has done with bringing high speed internet to casual gaming with the OG xbox, online gaming and what they are doing with gamepass, and xcloud, isn't innovated in the space I don't know what to tell you.

You know how many people I know personally that got ethernet cables and higher speed internet just to plug into the OG xbox...


Can you name me any other companies that are innovating in these areas that I can get all these things from?

I never said Microsoft wasn't innovative, they were killing Sony with the 360 by offering better games, better online gameplay on a cheaper system that was far easier to develop for. I think the original xbox was the best system from that era.


The issue is when they start buying major 3rd party publishers the keep the most popular games off competing hardware, that's not competitive.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I never said Microsoft wasn't innovative, they were killing Sony with the 360 by offering better games, better online gameplay on a cheaper system that was far easier to develop for. I think the original xbox was the best system from that era.


The issue is when they start buying major 3rd party publishers the keep the most popular games off competing hardware, that's not competitive.

When the landscape of entertainment consumption is changing, and in every other section of business companies are buying up and consolidating I don't see how what Microsoft, who is in 3rd place when it comes to gaming market share is being anti competitive.

If they were at the top or even 2nd, then sure. If they were buying up stuff with no intention of using it just so other people can't have it *ahem konami* then sure. But they aren't doing any of that.

They are essentially leading the change that every other forum of entertainment and convivence services have taken, especially since 2020 but in the gaming section. And they are doing it SOFAR pretty fairly and generously with gamers and competitors.


The problem is SONY and only sony is worried because they are top dogs and changing isn't beneficiall to them at all. Nintendo seems to couldn't care less.

 

[winb83]

The 1st part isnt really true. While nintendo did have the gaming industry in a headlock when it came to games and what devs were ultimately going to be able to make, your being a bit extra. Again not totally false but also not that egersis.


Sony simply provided a easier platform to develop on, that was cheaper and allowed for cinematic and 3d games, Every single dev and publisher like you said was down for that and they all pretty much worked in unison to make the games they wanted on the newest hardware and software that allowed them to bring there art to life in a way that cartridge games couldn't


I agree with everything else.

Nintendo had contracts stating you couldn't make games in competing platforms. They used the chips in cartridges to limit how many copies of a game publishers could produce. Nintendo ruled with an iron fist. There are plenty of documentaries on YouTube about how overboard with anti-competitive behavior they were.

 

[Diondon]

When the landscape of entertainment consumption is changing, and in every other section of business companies are buying up and consolidating I don't see how what Microsoft, who is in 3rd place when it comes to gaming market share is being anti competitive.

If they were at the top or even 2nd, then sure. If they were buying up stuff with no intention of using it just so other people can't have it *ahem konami* then sure. But they aren't doing any of that.

They are essentially leading the change that every other forum of entertainment and convivence services have taken, especially since 2020 but in the gaming section. And they are doing it SOFAR pretty fairly and generously with gamers and competitors.


The problem is SONY and only sony is worried because they are top dogs and changing isn't beneficiall to them at all. Nintendo seems to couldn't care less.

Says all this but be panicking at the MERE thought of Apple or Amazon entering the space.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The entire conversation is tainted by these romantic fan boy stories dudes been throwing back in forth for decades.

In reality, it’s just business. Over the years Sony has spent billions on keeping content off of other platforms. It’s kinda been their main strategy.

In this case microsoft has figured out they can’t compete on sony’s terms so they are creating their own market in kinda the same way sony did with PSX

For some reason people think Sony has some inherent right to advantageous market share and throwing their weight and money around while microsoft should just accept their fate and pick up the scraps.

Microsoft figured out they could not beat sony in the “sell more consoles” race so they created a new market/platform of their own and they need content for it, nothing wrong with spending money to secure content for their platform. That’s what they are supposed to do.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The entire conversation is tainted by these romantic fan boy stories dudes been throwing back in forth for decades.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

Bots turning this acquisition into get back for Sega

Yall really need some games to play

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Bots turning this acquisition into get back for Sega

Yall really need some games to play

Sega like

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The entire conversation is tainted by these romantic fan boy stories dudes been throwing back in forth for decades.

In reality, it’s just business. Over the years Sony has spent billions on keeping content off of other platforms. It’s kinda been their main strategy.

In this case microsoft has figured out they can’t compete on sony’s terms so they are creating their own market in kinda the same way sony did with PSX

For some reason people think Sony has some inherent right to advantageous market share and throwing their weight and money around while microsoft should just accept their fate and pick up the scraps.

Microsoft figured out they could not beat sony in the “sell more consoles” race so they created a new market/platform of their own and they need content for it, nothing wrong with spending money to secure content for their platform. That’s what they are supposed to do.

 

[Diondon]

Bots turning this acquisition into get back for Sega

Yall really need some games to play

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