The UK’s CMA has expressed concern that Microsoft‘s Activision merger could “significantly weaken” PlayStation (Updated with lawyer breakdown)

[Rice N Beans]

I don't see a problem. Sony needs to be significantly weakened. My ideal gaming world on consoles is Nintendo 33% Sony 33% Microsoft 33%. When that happens we as consumers win as they compete. When Sony is outselling Microsoft 3-1 they don't really have to compete with them.

MS has only themselves to blame. They had plenty of boost going from the 360 to the XB1. Sony was happily burning goodwill in the PS3 era out of arrogance and MS gifted them the next generation out of their own arrogance.

They can turn it around, they just don't want to wait.

 

[the elastic]

Call of Duty is not worth all this trouble. Washed ass franchise.

 

[Leasy]

Call of Duty is not worth all this trouble. Washed ass franchise.

Something washed doesn't be the top selling video game yearly. What washed franchise sell 20 million easily and add the free to play buy add on additions.

It's a reason Sony ready to go crazy over losing this franchise. It's a money getter out the ass

 

[Leasy]

Shout out to @winb83 with valid points and debate.

 

[the elastic]

What washed franchise sell 20 million easily

Sports games

 

[Leasy]

Sports games

Sports don't come near to 20 million sold

 

[the elastic]

Sports don't come near to 20 million sold

Well consider me #schooled

I was just trying to hate on COD, damn

 

[5n0man]

I don't see a problem. Sony needs to be significantly weakened. My ideal gaming world on consoles is Nintendo 33% Sony 33% Microsoft 33%. When that happens we as consumers win as they compete. When Sony is outselling Microsoft 3-1 they don't really have to compete with them.

This is the dumbest reason for why Microsoft should be allowed to create a monopoly. You're excusing a potential anti trust violation because you feel like Microsoft can't be competitive any other way?

Understanding Antitrust Laws

Learn about antitrust or competition laws. These statutes protect consumers from predatory business practices by ensuring fair competition exists.

www.investopedia.com

Sony gained their market share by offering better products.

Monopolies​

"Usually, when most people hear the term "antitrust" they think of monopolies. Monopolies refer to the dominance of an industry or sector by one company or firm while cutting out the competition.


One of the most well-known antitrust cases in recent memory involved Microsoft, which was found guilty of anti-competitive, monopolizing actions by forcing its own web browsers upon computers that had installed the Windows operating system."


"Regulators must also ensure monopolies are not borne out of a naturally competitive environment and gained market share simply through business acumen and innovation. It’s only acquiring market share through exclusionary or predatory practices that is illegal."


Which company gained their market share through innovation and which one is attempting to gain market share through exclusionary business practices?



I'll also throw this little tidbit in here.

Microsoft/DOJ Settlement Clouded by Unprecedented Lobbying - CCIA

Washington, DC - Microsoft has engaged in a "pattern and practice of political influence peddling in many ways unprecedented in modern political history,"

www.ccianet.org

 

[winb83]

This is the dumbest reason for why Microsoft should be allowed to create a monopoly. You're excusing a potential anti trust violation because you feel like Microsoft can't be competitive any other way?

Understanding Antitrust Laws

Learn about antitrust or competition laws. These statutes protect consumers from predatory business practices by ensuring fair competition exists.

www.investopedia.com

Sony gained their market share by offering better products.

Monopolies​

"Usually, when most people hear the term "antitrust" they think of monopolies. Monopolies refer to the dominance of an industry or sector by one company or firm while cutting out the competition.


One of the most well-known antitrust cases in recent memory involved Microsoft, which was found guilty of anti-competitive, monopolizing actions by forcing its own web browsers upon computers that had installed the Windows operating system."


"Regulators must also ensure monopolies are not borne out of a naturally competitive environment and gained market share simply through business acumen and innovation. It’s only acquiring market share through exclusionary or predatory practices that is illegal."


Which company gained their market share through innovation and which one is attempting to gain market share through exclusionary business practices?



I'll also throw this little tidbit in here.

Microsoft/DOJ Settlement Clouded by Unprecedented Lobbying - CCIA

Washington, DC - Microsoft has engaged in a "pattern and practice of political influence peddling in many ways unprecedented in modern political history,"

www.ccianet.org

Even with Activision Microsoft wouldn't be a monopoly in the console space or in the video game space in general.

People need to keep it 100. They don't like this not because it would create a monopoly which it obviously wouldn't they just don't like the idea of a company coming into this space and leveraging their finances to become more competitive. They see Microsoft as a company has advantages Sony doesn't and as fans they feel threatened by that but when Sony flexes their advantages to engage in both anti-consumer and anti-competitive behavior crickets.

I don't care how we get to better competition I just want these companies competing harder. Sony uses their market dominance to get sweetheart deals for exclusive 3rd party content and take major 3rd party games off another platform entirely and none of yall get upset about that. They leverage that dominance to create policies that discourage developers that want cross platform multi-player on their games from enabling it by putting a possible financial penalty on it and yall say nothing. They churn out record profits and earnings but raise the price on their games just because they can and the people that stan them defend it.

Microsoft has been making Xbox more favorable to consumers because they've been humbled. Pro-consumer policies like Smart Delivery and backwards compatibility exist to try and win customers favor. Sony lacks stuff like that because their dominance is so heavy they don't need to give consumers extras like that.

 

[5n0man]

People need to keep it 100. They don't like this not because it would create a monopoly which it obviously wouldn't they just don't like the idea of a company coming into this space and leveraging their finances to become more competitive. They see Microsoft as a company has advantages Sony doesn't and as fans they feel threatened by that but when Sony flexes their advantages to engage in both anti-consumer and anti-competitive behavior crickets.

Breh, it's not legal to come into an industry and leverage money to be competitive. You have to compete by being innovative, you can't just buy out all product to limit the growth of your competitors. Sony hasn't done anything to violate anti trust laws, people just like their product more, that's why they have such a large market share, nothing illegal about that. If they're doing something you think is anti consumer, all Microsoft has to do is create a better product. You've admitted that they can't or won't do that so you're OK with them buying their way into that position, but that's not legal.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Breh, it's not legal to come into an industry and leverage money to be competitive. You have to compete by being innovative, you can't just buy out all product to limit the growth of your competitors. Sony hasn't done anything to violate anti trust laws, people just like their product more, that's why they have such a large market share, nothing illegal about that. If they're doing something you think is anti consumer, all Microsoft has to do is create a better product. You've admitted that they can't or won't do that so you're OK with them buying their way into that position, but that's not legal.

It’s not illegal, not even sure where you got that silly idea from. And sony has been doing it from the jump, and still are.

What world do you live in breh

 

[winb83]

Breh, it's not legal to come into an industry and leverage money to be competitive. You have to compete by being innovative, you can't just buy out all product to limit the growth of your competitors. Sony hasn't done anything to violate anti trust laws, people just like their product more, that's why they have such a large market share, nothing illegal about that. If they're doing something you think is anti consumer, all Microsoft has to do is create a better product. You've admitted that they can't or won't do that so you're OK with them buying their way into that position, but that's not legal.

You misundrestand capitalism. The basis of it is the people with the capital have all the advantages. It is very much legal for companies to buy other companies. Have you seen Amazon? Google? Facebook? Sony has engaged in anti-competitive and anti-consumer behavior. They've used their position as a dominant force to damage their competition. It enshrined them in their position of dominance and keeps them there.

The fact that you think someone will come into the industry and boot strap their way into any level of real competition with Sony is so laughable I don't even think you believe it. It took one of the largest companies in the world in Microsoft to even make a small dent in their marketshare and Sony dominance has in part contributed to companies with more talented developers than Microsoft like SEGA exiting out of the console market entirely as well as shifting Nintendo to the Blue Ocean strategy and a different customer base.

Your argument is disingenuous at best.

 

[The Mad Titan]

It’s not illegal, not even sure where you got that silly idea from. And sony has been doing it from the jump, and still are.

What world do you live in breh

The only reason Sony is where they are with playstation is because they had money, came in the game, didn't like what Nintendo was doing because they didn't want to use CDs so Sony with there big pile of money said screw a joint project and made there own system that pushed there own product aka CDs.




Sony Stan's are nuts

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The only reason Sony is where they are with playstation is because they had money, came in the game, didn't like what Nintendo was doing because they didn't want to use CDs so Sony with there big pile of money said screw it and made there own system that pushed there own product aka CDs.




Sony Stan's are nuts

Dudes really are crazy.

That sony kool-aide is strong AF

Everything sony does is righteous innovation for the love of games, everything Microsoft does is nefarious actions trying to hurt the industry.

And they really believe this shyt

 

[winb83]

The only reason Sony is where they are with playstation is because they had money, came in the game, didn't like what Nintendo was doing because they didn't want to use CDs so Sony with there big pile of money said screw a joint project and made there own system that pushed there own product aka CDs.




Sony Stan's are nuts

Nintendo is and has forever been such a garbage company. They abused developers and publishers for years. The anti-competitive behavior they engaged in would make Sony blush.

Sony simply stepped in and filled a void as a competent company that treated developers and publishers well and responded to their request and everybody ran to them. SEGA was alienating everybody churning out product after product trying to get a foothold.

People wanna act like Sony was this plucky upstart that dethroned Nintendo by simply making great games. The actual truth is that for the whole PS1 generation and most of the PS2 generation Sony had the entire industry minus SEGA, Nintendo, and Microsoft working on their platform with a combined effort the industry hasn't seen the likes of since. They were the defacto platform for console gaming.

Once people pick a brand and ecosystem they're inclined to stay in that barring some major event. Nintendo decided to compensate for that by chasing after customers that aren't in Sony's primary target demographic. They also get a lot of the ex-Nintendo fans from the SNES days back many of whom switched to Sony. They buy Nintendo as a second console which they're fine with.