The UFO/UAP disclosure thread

[Professor Emeritus]

Very true but it isn't like those accounts of the phenomena are any less legitimate because it was back then.

No, they are equally illegitimate.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

breh, i was watching a documentary on fake news since the 1800s. The New York Herald, which at the time was a legit newspaper and a popular one, made many false claims of shyt happening. They legit made a front page story about the NY Zoo had animals break free mutilating hundreds of people and the Mayor advised people to stay in their homes. Thousands instead pick their shyt up and headed to the Harbor to try and leave. This was some time in the mid 1800's. People been spewing bullshyt for hundreds of years, reputable sources at that.

Breh, you think that was crazy....

Great Moon Hoax - Wikipedia

The "Great Moon Hoax" refers to a series of six articles that were published in The Sun, a New York newspaper, beginning on August 25, 1835, about the supposed discovery of life and even civilization on the Moon. The discoveries were falsely attributed to Sir John Herschel, one of the best-known astronomers of that time.

The story was advertised on August 21, 1835, as an upcoming feature allegedly reprinted from The Edinburgh Courant.[1] The first in a series of six was published four days later on August 25.

GREAT ASTRONOMICAL DISCOVERIES
LATELY MADE
BY SIR JOHN HERSCHEL, L.L.D. F.R.S. &c.
At the Cape of Good Hope
[From Supplement to the Edinburgh Journal of Science]​

The articles described animals on the Moon, including bison, goats, unicorns, bipedal tail-less beavers and bat-like winged humanoids ("Vespertilio-homo") who built temples. There were trees, oceans and beaches. These discoveries were supposedly made with "an immense telescope of an entirely new principle".

The author of the narrative was ostensibly Dr. Andrew Grant, the travelling companion and amanuensis of Sir John Herschel, but Grant was fictitious.

Eventually, the authors announced that the observations had been terminated by the destruction of the telescope, by means of the Sun causing the lens to act as a "burning glass", setting fire to the observatory.[2]

 

[Micky Mikey]

No, they are equally illegitimate.

And equally legitimate

 

[Bboystyle]

Breh, you think that was crazy....

Great Moon Hoax - Wikipedia

Yea i saw that shyt too. Theres an actual drawing of the moon creatures that was posted on the paper

 

[Bboystyle]

Very true but it isn't like those accounts of the phenomena are any less legitimate because it was back then.

Point being, there was a lot of BS spreading prior to technology.

 

[NZA]

until we bring some PHI 101 concepts into the K-12 system, we are going to have some otherwise smart people just have some incredibly faulty ideas. in a world that relies more on information, that is more problematic in the future than in the past. if we cant even come to reasonable conclusions about the integrity of voting, the cause of the changing weather patterns, etc. then we are going to needlessly suffer more than we are accustomed to in the developed world.

and it really doesnt help when mainstream news dabbles in intentional misinformation and funds itself through sensationalism. substack is not a good substitute for media, either. LOL

 

[KillerB88]

 

[Outlaw]

Perhaps those crashes were deliberate

If they did crash it was definitely deliberate. How can species capable of interstellar flight be inept in atmospheric flight?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Y'all can see how much BS that guy is spewing, right?

First off, they're talking about alien technology and they're interviewing a fukking cop. Not even a scientist or an engineer, he's a sergeant-at-arms, he's just a cop on a ship.

Second, "We're looking at technology that outstrips ours by at least 100 to 1000 years". That's one of the dumbest statements I've heard. That's a massive and completely arbitrary range, even science fiction never tries to guess what technology 1000 years from now would look like and it would clearly be nothing like technology 100 years from now. He's basing that claim off of a black dot on a screen?

Third, "It has no observable means of propulsion". That's because it's a blurry dot. The pilot admitted that he was too far away to make visual contact and was only looking at the radar blip.

Fourth, "It seemed to know where our pilots were going ahead of time." That's one of the most obvious ways you can tell that you're misjudging the movement of the object, silly. It's not reading your mind, it's not even visibly moving. You're looking at a fix of an object so it looks like it's always moving ahead of you, it's not actually continuing to move ahead of you. That should be one of the most BASIC ways you can tell his interpretation of the video is bullshyt.

The entire video is explained easily right here, and if you watch his channel you can see more specific videos showing that nothing in the clips displays any interesting properties but is merely being misjudged due to movements of the plane and settings changes on the camera itself.




His radar was tracking a dot a long ways away, with zero knowledge on the actual speed or movements of the object because everywhere we see is just relative movement from the plane/sensor, and he was too hyped up cause people had been making all sorts of UFO reports recently.

 

[KillerB88]

Y'all can see how much BS that guy is spewing, right?

First off, they're talking about alien technology and they're interviewing a fukking cop. Not even a scientist or an engineer, he's a sergeant-at-arms, he's just a cop on a ship.

Second, "We're looking at technology that outstrips ours by at least 100 to 1000 years". That's one of the dumbest statements I've heard. That's a massive and completely arbitrary range, even science fiction never tries to guess what technology 1000 years from now would look like and it would clearly be nothing like technology 100 years from now. He's basing that claim off of a black dot on a screen?

Third, "It has no observable means of propulsion". That's because it's a blurry dot. The pilot admitted that he was too far away to make visual contact and was only looking at the radar blip.

The entire video is explained easily right here:




His radar was tracking a dot a long ways away, with zero knowledge on the actual speed or movements of the object because everywhere we see is just relative movement from the plane/sensor, and he was too hyped up cause people had been making all sorts of UFO reports recently.

Now you’re just trying too hard. You’re just some guy on the internet. I’ll go with 60 minutes, CNN, and the former National Intelligence Deputy Secretary. I hope you know you sound like another version of Qanon, anti-vaxxer, Trump MAGA. I’ve been following this topic for years. Your janky Mick West-esque “debunking” videos won’t sway me.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Now you’re just trying too hard. You’re just some guy on the internet. I’ll go with 60 minutes, CNN, and the former National Intelligence Deputy Secretary. I hope you know you sound like another version of Qanon, anti-vaxxer, Trump MAGA. I’ve been following this topic for years. Your janky Mick West-esque “debunking” videos won’t sway me.

But 60 minutes and CNN didn't "say" anything one way or another. They're just putting guys on TV for ratings, they don't have a position.

And Christopher Mellon is literally paid to promote UFOs, he's part of the reason To The Stars had a $37 million deficit.


You're seriously going with an "argument from authority", which is logically suspect anyway, and you're doing it without even having an authority.

 

[KillerB88]

But 60 minutes and CNN didn't "say" anything one way or another. They're just putting guys on TV for ratings, they don't have a position.

And Christopher Mellon is literally paid to promote UFOs.


You're seriously going with an "argument from authority", which is logically suspect anyway, and you're doing it without even having an authority.

Okay friend. I don’t know if there is a religious component motivating you, but you sound crazy. You’re constantly popping up in ufo threads with your walls of text, deliberately ignoring various data points to bolster your arguments. And you were allegedly a scientist. If you think this is all fake, why not ignore the topic? No one invests so much in “debunking” a topic that they believe is fake and isn’t even a popular topic on this forum. According to you nothing will come of this, so you shouldn’t have any problem sitting back and watching nothing happen over the course of our lifetimes.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Okay friend. I don’t know if there is a religious component motivating you, but you sound crazy. You’re constantly popping up in ufo threads with your walls of text, deliberately ignoring various data points to bolster your arguments. And you were allegedly a scientist. If you think this is all fake, why not ignore the topic? No one invests so much in “debunking” a topic that they believe is fake and isn’t even a popular topic on this forum. According to you nothing will come of this, so you shouldn’t have any problem sitting back and watching nothing happen over the course of our lifetimes.

Pretty sure I only sound "crazy" to you breh, but keep throwing shyt against the wall to see if it sticks.

I don't like false shyt being promoted no matter where it is, I'm the kinda guy who debunks falsehoods when he sees them. It ain't like that's unusual. Unfortunately critical thinking like that isn't too common, which is one of the reasons we've been constantly going through so much bullshyt the last five years cause people want to believe Youtube videos over using their fukking brains and actually working to follow logical arguments.

 

[KillerB88]

Pretty sure I only sound "crazy" to you breh, but keep throwing shyt against the wall to see if it sticks.

I don't like false shyt being promoted no matter where it is, I'm the kinda guy who debunks falsehoods when he sees them. It ain't like that's unusual. Unfortunately critical thinking like that isn't too common, which is one of the reasons we've been constantly going through so much bullshyt the last five years cause people want to believe Youtube videos over using their fukking brains and actually working to follow logical arguments.

I guess time will tell. Or maybe it won’t.

 

[KillerB88]