It's really simple…..'Murder Rap' and Keefe D's subsequent cooperation make it really clear, exactly how it went down…They grabbed a .40 from Zip, headed to 662 in two cars, didn't see him….got unnerved by all the security and bloods, stopped at the liquor store, the Cadillac split from the van….They saw Suge and Pac coming through traffic, and caught him and Suge like that. A little luck, coincidence, it's fascinating regardless, but there is no intricate conspiracy….just gangsters doing gangster shyt.
The Thing I Wonder Most About Tupac's Murder
- Thread starter CouldntBeMeTho
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It's hard to believe someone as big as Pac--still a human being--was murdered over petty beef
It had to be the gov't or the Illuminati
Why you guys trying to make it some big conspiracy?
Someone spotted the car he was in and followed it. Simple. Dude was a rapper he wasn't moving lowkey.
And for all you know coulda been a coincidence. They pull up, spot the nikka, lets spray him. This was the 90s.
Someone spotted the car he was in and followed it. Simple. Dude was a rapper he wasn't moving lowkey.
And for all you know coulda been a coincidence. They pull up, spot the nikka, lets spray him. This was the 90s.
ndthentherewasx
El Capitan
Government?
Label execs/Suge?
Puffy?
Orlando Anderson?
Who knows?
Pac used to talk that communism stuff so who knows , we never will
Label execs/Suge?
Puffy?
Orlando Anderson?
Who knows?
Pac used to talk that communism stuff so who knows , we never will
Aight, ima lay out exactly why I have a hard time believe Orlando just caught him in traffic. And this is something I've never heard discussed by anyone. The strip was packed bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic. I think it's reasonable to assume, it would be next to impossible for anyone to stalk the convoy successfully down the strip. There's just no way.
Like people have said, Orlando would have to have seen Pac and Suge going down Flamingo, flip a U-turn then come up along side the bmw. That's the only way the story works. BUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE STRIP TO FLAMINGO AND KOVAL IS ONLY 2611 FEET!!!
That's about a half mile. If they had average speed of 30mph, that works out to about 1 minute, to drive from the strip to the intersection the shooting happened at. So in the course of perhaps 1-2 minutes, Orlando drove past suge and pac, flipped a U-turn, came up on the entourage, shoot pac, then escaped.
if that is indeed what happened, then it was incredibly lucky, and certainly it was destiny. But I don't believe in destiny, our fates are not written, we determine the outcome.
Therefore I propose it was a ambush. Whoever did the shooting KNEW pac was going to be driving down flamingo. Think about that shyt for a minute brehs
@Nomad1 @Wally Russell
Like people have said, Orlando would have to have seen Pac and Suge going down Flamingo, flip a U-turn then come up along side the bmw. That's the only way the story works. BUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE STRIP TO FLAMINGO AND KOVAL IS ONLY 2611 FEET!!!
That's about a half mile. If they had average speed of 30mph, that works out to about 1 minute, to drive from the strip to the intersection the shooting happened at. So in the course of perhaps 1-2 minutes, Orlando drove past suge and pac, flipped a U-turn, came up on the entourage, shoot pac, then escaped.
if that is indeed what happened, then it was incredibly lucky, and certainly it was destiny. But I don't believe in destiny, our fates are not written, we determine the outcome.
Therefore I propose it was a ambush. Whoever did the shooting KNEW pac was going to be driving down flamingo. Think about that shyt for a minute brehs
@Nomad1 @Wally Russell
Let me expand on my last post a little bit. Flamingo is a divided highway at that point. So there are actually only a few spots you could even make a uturn there. Making it even more unlikely 
I went and counted on google maps, it looks like there's only 6 spots where you would be able to make a uturn in that distance.
I went and counted on google maps, it looks like there's only 6 spots where you would be able to make a uturn in that distance.
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Mac Casper
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Aight, ima lay out exactly why I have a hard time believe Orlando just caught him in traffic. And this is something I've never heard discussed by anyone. The strip was packed bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic. I think it's reasonable to assume, it would be next to impossible for anyone to stalk the convoy successfully down the strip. There's just no way.
Like people have said, Orlando would have to have seen Pac and Suge going down Flamingo, flip a U-turn then come up along side the bmw. That's the only way the story works. BUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE STRIP TO FLAMINGO AND KOVAL IS ONLY 2611 FEET!!!
That's about a half mile. If they had average speed of 30mph, that works out to about 1 minute, to drive from the strip to the intersection the shooting happened at. So in the course of perhaps 1-2 minutes, Orlando drove past suge and pac, flipped a U-turn, came up on the entourage, shoot pac, then escaped.
if that is indeed what happened, then it was incredibly lucky, and certainly it was destiny. But I don't believe in destiny, our fates are not written, we determine the outcome.
Therefore I propose it was a ambush. Whoever did the shooting KNEW pac was going to be driving down flamingo. Think about that shyt for a minute brehs
@Nomad1 @Wally Russell
I'm going to have to co-sign this ambush theory, an elaborate plan would call upon a simple fall-guy that makes the case seem obvious . . plus we know a whole bunch of money fell in Orlando Anderson's lap prior to this. Reminiscent of the type of payments that government give on some Michael De Santa shyt
It's a 1-2 minute, half mile window that all this went down in...
Mac Casper
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It's a 1-2 minute, half mile window that all this went down in...
To assume that Orlando Anderson and company were responsible for this is to assume that these people somehow had a Beatlejuice car that could drive over traffic, or that they were driving down the sidewalk running over pedestrian with 1 star blinking in the upper right corner of the screen . . this was an elaborate hit that was executed with expert precision just moments after police had pulled them over . .
I definitely think there's more to it, I just find the story so unlikely, it would be a one in million chance to catch him in traffic like that.
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
After reading this thread...
Wouldnt a Oliver Stone's "JFK" kind of movie about Pac's murder be the better choice than the current film being made?
So much intrigue on what really happened.
Wouldnt a Oliver Stone's "JFK" kind of movie about Pac's murder be the better choice than the current film being made?
So much intrigue on what really happened.
Mac Casper
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that pic is blown out of proportionIt is the only place he could be where he wouldn't be a suspect
also this photo seems like it's split second, he notice the camera and looked at it long enough for the picture to be snapped
. . . We know he was in high spirits after the fight and after the fight with Orlando Anderson. We know Orlando Anderson went down from Tupac's punches (and grabbed Tupac's chain while going down) . . Tupac reached down to grab it just as Frank Alexander was pushing him out of the way of a Death Row stamped on Mr. Anderson's head
. .why does Tupac not seem to be in high spirits during this picture?
Also . . Suge told Tupac to ride with him, he wanted to talk to him about something
What were they talking about?
I agree, you can take a pic of someone making a awkward facial expression for a split second regardless of how they're feeling. that shyt happens all the time
Guys, Orlando Anderson (a long with Keefe D being an accessory and uncle zip providing the gun) killed Pac
listen to the whole thing
Pretty interesting stuff
including them killing pac, going to a random the hotel parking lot to park and to stash the gun.....then walking back to their hotel only to see the same ambulance that picked up pac and suge and they started laughing"like oh shyt, that's the nikkas we just shot"
Also tells how they caught them in traffic. They went to 662 but they hadn't showed up so they chalked it, then they drove right past them on the vegas strip coincidently, made a u-turn and then
I just don't buy that they were able to make a uturn then catch up on the strip, IT WAS BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC breh
