The Thing I Wonder Most About Tupac's Murder

[KravenMorehead™]

Ima have to sit down with fork and knife for this thread nikkas got maps and shyt

 

[Mac Casper]

that pic is blown out of proportion

I agree, you can take a pic of someone making a awkward facial expression for a split second regardless of how they're feeling. that shyt happens all the time

You don't feel like that split second expression isn't a reflection of two guys who aren't exactly in an upbeat mood?

Of course a camera can capture any moment but expression says a lot, even it's split second. I'm not saying to read into it but a picture is worth a thousand words

 

[karim]

How on a Friday fight night, was Orlando able to find him? Keep in mind that...

-Orlando was detained by casino security immediately after the scuffle. There's no way that he would've been able to ID the car Pac and Suge were in.

-It was a Mike Tyson fight, on a Friday night in Vegas. The strip was packed, if you've been to Vegas for a major event, you'd understand.

-This is before everyone had cell phones. Even if he had spotters with phones waiting on the strip, how would they be able to communicate the position of the car in time for them to conveniently pull up next to them right off the strip.

I do think it's likely the Southside had him killed. Pac and Suge were riding in a Beamer with the windows down and the music loud, being very visible. But the odds of just randomly running into someone twice like that, seems unlikely...

Thoughts? Trolls will be negd

as far as i remember, it was a coincidence. they knew that the death row camp was headed to club 662 and were planning to wait for them outside. when they met them on the way to the club, they decided to do the hit right then and there.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

You don't feel like that split second expression isn't a reflection of two guys who aren't exactly in an upbeat mood?

Of course a camera can capture any moment but expression says a lot, even it's split second. I'm not saying to read into it but a picture is worth a thousand words

really the only person that can answer that is suge.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

as far as i remember, it was a coincidence. they knew that the death row camp was headed to club 662 and were planning to wait for them outside. when they met them on the way to the club, they decided to do the hit right then and there.

it's been said 3 or 4 times already. my whole thing, is it would've been an amazing stroke of luck for them to see them drive by, and be able to turn around catch up, and pull it off.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

You don't feel like that split second expression isn't a reflection of two guys who aren't exactly in an upbeat mood?

Of course a camera can capture any moment but expression says a lot, even it's split second. I'm not saying to read into it but a picture is worth a thousand words

I do really wanna know what the fukk they were talking about tho

 

[karim]

it's been said 3 or 4 times already. my whole thing, is it would've been an amazing stroke of luck for them to see them drive by, and be able to turn around catch up, and pull it off.

it happens

 

[iseetrolledpeople]

"like oh shyt, that's the nikkas we just shot"

Now we all know how a suckerpunch turns into a 3 piece combo loco KO type


only Pac brings the better in people. Props to @Ill Clinton for this thread.
A couple of lines from this thread really got me "... the world is a fcuked up place''.

R.I.P. Pac.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Now we all know how a suckerpunch turns into a 3 piece combo loco KO type


only Pac brings the better in people. Props to @Ill Clinton for this thread.
A couple of lines from this thread really got me "... the world is a fcuked up place''.

R.I.P. Pac.

I got to that part of the audio of the Greg Kading video and felt like damn....the world is a rough place

 

[infamousred]

I'm glad this topic is at the top of the forum cause it has always made me think. I think the simple issue of the matter is that a lot of people havent seen the full unc*nt mgm video. Orlando didn't just happen to get there. You can tell dude is on a mission. As to who put him up to it? You be the judge. I realize PAC raised a lot of hell and was constantly against the system but this was a simple case of one man being afraid of another. It was either kill or be killed...while keeping your hands clean

 

[Mac Casper]

Name a single other pop act (grossing $100 million in revenue) - that was making political status about mobilizing fan bases into political representation and forming political parties


Go ahead, I'll wait

Is Beyoncé making grand social statements?

 

[Mac Casper]

Examples of statements from major artists

Lady Gaga - "guys we need to defend the environment. Help us by supporting this initiative to levy extra taxes on people"


Tupac - "shyt's unjust, has been unjust for years. We need our own political party"

 

[Stuckinthe90s]

"My fofo gonna make sure you're all you're kids don't grow"

 

[CASHAPP]

And I also want to say that in hindsight, Diddy and Suge are responsible for Pac and Biggie's death b/c they didn't do enough to distance them away from their personal beef. Pac and Big's beef was minor but it got conflated with Diddy's and Suge's.

And all these 90's babies talking about it's "Pac's fault" for Biggie dying and this isn't true. Biggie was seen hanging with Orlando and Keffe D AFTER Pac was dead, and he made the stupid move of going to LA and dissing Pac in that radio show (i think it was sway). Pac never said anything about Biggie while he was in prison and refused to believe he had anything to do with it until he heard "Who shot ya" (released when he was still in prison). And then Biggie almost got DPG and Pac killed when he said they were filming a video in "our" city (Pac wasn't even there) and they re-recorded NY NY as a diss and made NY 87 (it was never released tho). Again, Pac NEVER name dropped Biggie or even referenced BB.

Biggie and Puffy weren't no angels, and IMO they were much more ruthless than Pac and Suge.

I had to address this revisionist history.

this is random as fukk but something else i noticed yall... @Elevated ATLien @andre patton you remember in the "Dead Presidents" video when mad rappers were sitting around playing monopoly with real money? when Biggie was rolling the dice what did he say or did it SOUND like he said(remember i said what it sounded like)

he says POOCHIE or it sounds like that when you watch the vid

obviously i don't believe in illuminati or shyt like that. just something ironic i noticed

and "poochie" ends up being the alias of the person who killed Biggie...its funny how ironic somet things are sometimes



"3:52 to 3:54 mark"

on a side note Burn in hell Poochie

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I read a ton about this 10+ years ago havent read much since because it was frustrating. good thread

wasnt kadafi going to co-operate/testify before he got killed? i saw this get disputed earlier in the thread but i found his murder to be one of the more interesting parts of it all lowkey