The Tariq Nasheed Thread

[BXKingPin82]

Who the hell said Puerto Ricans created hip hop?!

The Coli

 

[Apollo Creed]

I couldnt imagine my life being so trash that I spend my time debating over stuff like this.

 

[truth2you]

no. suburb guy.
i believe what i seen.
PR cats was in the Hip Hop shyt just as deep as the brothers.
they didnt CREATE it, but they had a part in it.

get your daps bamma.

Yeah, in the 80's, not before that, the first or would tell you that. Someone already showed you what Charlie chase said, as well as grandmaster vas, y'all just want to ignore them to keep ya agendas going

 

[...and some waffle fries]

false.

none of you nikkas were old enough or in the bronx to know wtf happened. yall just making it up now. c

Hip Hop is synonmous and is a by product of the genres before it. Its NOT exlusively its own thing. Its a culmination of everything before.

What do you think them old nikkas listen to and was inspired by. Temptions, Otis Redding, The Whispers, The Manhattans etc. Sampling is embedded in the very fabric of Hip Hop.

Jamaicans, PR and whoever did not create Hip Hop because the blueprint and the elements were already there loooooong before their contribution.

Contribution =/= Creation

 

[desjardins]

This is so tiring to constantly repeat it, but if lie is constantly told, it turns into the truth after a while.

Kool hercwas 12 years old when he came to the states, he didn't bring anything from jamaica. He started djing after he started hanging with black americans, and going to the parties. Hip hop comes from the black spades gang, and early disco dj culture.

There were very few other caribeans here in 1973, most black immigrant started coming in the mid 70's to the early 80's. And they didn't interact with black Americans like that, just their kids. The bronx was mainly ADOS, white italians, and puerto ricans. Herc said his Jamaican friends would look at him crazy when he started hanging with, and dressing like ADOS.

Please stop making up stuff y'all, just go read or listen to the interviews of these people, it's the internet era, its not hard to do

Yea we are, that's how we know what influenced the creators of the genre. It came from their mouths


A look at reggae's undoubtable influence on hip-hop

Many of us are familiar with the technique of "scratching," which is when a DJ uses records on a turntable to cause friction and create a rhythmic, high-pitched noise. Though this method became popular in New York's South Bronx, it was actually created in Jamaica as "dubbing." Reggae records would have an A-side of fully composed songs; the B-side would contain chopped-up remixes of the original songs that allowed the record cutters (the original DJs) to manipulate different components of the track.

The mastering of dubbing in reggae allowed an artist to "toast"—the predecessor to rapping or emceeing—over instrumental versions of songs. Jamaican DJs usually existed only to hype up songs, but dubbing pioneer King Tubby set a new standard with his emphasis on giving bass and rhythm a prominent spot on his remixes. Tubby commissioned DJ extraordinaire U-Roy to toast over his head-knocking mixes—which is recognized as the true creation of rapping. There is strong speculation that hip-hop's forefathers—Barbados-born Grandmaster Flash, Jamaica's Kool Herc, and Afrika Bambaataa—gained their inspiration directly by King Tubby and U-Roy.

 

[truth2you]

I said hop is black American music


Herc incorporated toasting into his style but there's no real Caribbean influence on hip hop.

You do know herc never toasted, that was coke la rock(black american),

AND toasting is nothing but jive talking, Jamaicans got it from American radio did when they would picknl up the radio signals from florida.

 

[Silky Johnson]

You makingnya self look crazy with ya lack of knowledge, but acting like you know. Read the lyrics, he is talking about FLATBUSH, that is where Krs-one stayed, he even said it on drink champs. I'll find that, and make you look crazy again!

"It was seventy-six to 1980
The dreads in Brooklyn was crazy
You couldn't bring out your set with no hip-hop
Because the pistols would go"

So your proof that jamaicans didn't like hip hop is quoting a jamaican that was one of hip hop's pioneers? Copy that.

 

[truth2you]

Yea we are, that's how we know what influenced the creators of the genre. It came from their mouths


A look at reggae's undoubtable influence on hip-hop

Not one word from the architects, just someone making up shyt like yall

 

[truth2you]

So your proof that jamaicans didn't like hip hop is quoting a jamaican that was one of hip hop's pioneers? Copy that.

No, learn how to read. I lived in flatbush when most west indians came to love once they started migrating here in huge numbers in the mid 70'S to early 80's

I was young but I remember how they would act when rap came on

 

[Silky Johnson]

So you believe someone who thinks hip.hop started.in the 80's before kool herc, zu nation, kool dj dee, who were doing hip hop culture in the early 70's?

Y'all nikkas are wild

wtf does doing hip hop culture mean? How do you do a culture?

 

[Supper]

Yea we are, that's how we know what influenced the creators of the genre. It came from their mouths


A look at reggae's undoubtable influence on hip-hop

AADOS soul music artist like James Brown were dubbing records before King Tubby and any other Jamaican artist.
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/dub...-it-was-birthed-in-the-usa-soul-scene.322801/

 

[xoxodede]

Afrika Bambaataa(who's Jamaican & Barbadian) & other legends on the origins of Hip Hop.

Gospel Quartets started Hip-Hop IMO.

I remember listening to this album when I was a child. My daddy was a Gospel DJ when he was younger - and got OLD albums from the early 1900's, But, this song RIGHT here.... man! Listen to the whole thing.



A treasure trove of previously unreleased material, this brings together 25 new tracks, all recorded between 1953 and 1957.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Who the hell said Puerto Ricans created hip hop?!

Many Puerto Ricans online as of recently.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

no. suburb guy.
i believe what i seen.
PR cats was in the Hip Hop shyt just as deep as the brothers.
they didnt CREATE it, but they had a part in it.

get your daps bamma.

Okay....? What does having a "part in it" have to do with creating it which this thread is about?

 

[Silky Johnson]

This is so tiring to constantly repeat it, but if lie is constantly told, it turns into the truth after a while.

Kool hercwas 12 years old when he came to the states, he didn't bring anything from jamaica. He started djing after he started hanging with black americans, and going to the parties. Hip hop comes from the black spades gang, and early disco dj culture.

There were very few other caribeans here in 1973, most black immigrant started coming in the mid 70's to the early 80's. And they didn't interact with black Americans like that, just their kids. The bronx was mainly ADOS, white italians, and puerto ricans. Herc said his Jamaican friends would look at him crazy when he started hanging with, and dressing like ADOS.

Please stop making up stuff y'all, just go read or listen to the interviews of these people, it's the internet era, its not hard to do

Hmm...i wonder what cultural phenomenon happened in the early 80's that brought the jamaican, puerto rican and black kids together?


As for the underline...if you ever spent any time around Jamaican families, you know just how large a pile of bullshyt this is. Seriously.