The Sweet Life of Zach and Coby: We got AK's, The Official 2021 Chicago Bulls Off Season Thread

[Left.A1]

Not going smoothly? Dude it's been 11 games! Lol the point of "win now" is literally something only you are sticking with.

Theres 18 games left this season .. ignoring the on the court product and simply blaming it on a small sample size is yet another instance of individuals like yourself engaging in a disconnection from this teams current situational reality like I mentioned above and now your claiming that the intent/appeal of having "two allstars" isn't to win now but in the distant future when cap space and draft picks are going to be even less available .... perhaps you're correct and AKME didn't trade for a 31 year old center to win now and push for the playoffs (like he said out of his own fukking mouth after the trade) but in 3 years when Vuc is going to be going on 34-35 years old because of course I'm the "only one" sticking with this point of "win now" you nikkas are literally just rambling disingenuous gibberish at this point ... rest of this shyt ain't even worth wasting my time reading if this is now the new narrative you dudes are dedicated to shifting to TBH... god bless you brother ..have a good day

 

[god shamgod]

yall kan kall me a stan all u want idgaf, but we coulda picked up rose for peanuts before the trade deadline

and the pros would have out weighed the cons , specially when u consider how traash our guards have been


lonzo would have been nice but even this would have helped
look at the knicks

sometimed it aint akways the guranteeed homerun ..u gotta look at the lil.pieces as well

aadd that to the mentorship for coby x leadership 2 this team

for context

Of these 13 wins 2 were vs +.500 teams

the bucks without Greek freak,Middleton and holiday and the grizzlies a fringe 8-10 seed the rest were vs lottery teams/fringe play in teams they lost to every single good team they played.the bulls need defense ,shooting and playmaking from the pg position rose wouldn’t do jack for this team

 

[god shamgod]

If the bulls miss the playoffs then they’re gonna either jump into the top 4 or it’ll be the 8-10th pick

lakers,grizzlies & pelicans all jumped into the top 4 since the lottery was reformed all from the 9-10 spots so it’s not a doomsday situation ,hopefully if it comes to that luck is on their side

Acquiring vuc was showing the only player on the team currently worth a damn(besides p will)they were trying to build with him by adding a good complimentary piece. Lavine can bounce next summer he was hyped for the Donovan hire and vuc acquisition ,the other moves still need to be made this offseason. Ionzo was part of the trade deadline plan but the pelicans wanted too much so a deal couldn’t get done ,not an ideal situation but you can’t get fleeced trying to make a move.Add the fact lavine injured his ankle and a brutal stretch in the schedule bulls been losing it is what it is

they have some flexibility this summer and hypothetically if they max lavine(30 mil range)and signed another fa to a 20 mil contract would still have max dough in ‘22 too.things ain’t working out so far that’s just for now

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Theres 18 games left this season .. ignoring the on the court product and simply blaming it on a small sample size is yet another instance of individuals like yourself engaging in a disconnection from this teams current situational reality like I mentioned above and now your claiming that the intent/appeal of having "two allstars" isn't to win now but in the distant future when cap space and draft picks are going to be even less available .... perhaps you're correct and AKME didn't trade for a 31 year old center to win now and push for the playoffs (like he said out of his own fukking mouth after the trade) but in 3 years when Vuc is going to be going on 34-35 years old because of course I'm the "only one" sticking with this point of "win now" you nikkas are literally just rambling disingenuous gibberish at this point ... rest of this shyt ain't even worth wasting my time reading if this is now the new narrative you dudes are dedicated to shifting to TBH... god bless you brother ..have a good day

At this point your not even keeping up with the conversation. Me pointing out that its only been 11 games was not an attempt to say that they can still have success this season or even in the short term. Me saying it's only 11 games is pointing out you can't make any conclusion to the ultimate goals of AK based on 11 games which is what your attempting to do now. Your in your feelings. Your rushing to the thread believing this seasons losses somehow means trading for Vuc was a mistake and that is disingenuous simply on the fact that nobody expected that trade to bring immediate success and we all understood it was the 1st move to many to come evident by the saying "I'm not done "

even if they had some wins, come this off season we all still would have expected more moves as we all understood that a small showing in the playoffs or play in is not the goal. As been explained to you we are to look like a more attractive team to either lure big free agents or put together packages for more trades. Your jumping the gun and shooting way too fast.

Your literally rambling and arguing with yourself at this point. Your not making any point to us

 

[Deafheaven]

Needing 2 years into the future to evaluate whether a "win now" strategy is working seems principally antithetical in nature ... after this summers free agency we wont have any money "for the future" not recognizing that this plan isn't heading in the right direction if the team cant acquire a marquee additional player and soon is willful ignorance out of the sake of protecting ones ego .... I desperately hope the F.O. doesn't carry that kind of internal foolhardiness


For instance Zach Lavine is a whole ass free agent next summer theres 0 guarantee that he will even choose to be here moving forward if this team doesn't dramatically improve over the summer (this was a talking point to defend the trade) and yet people like yourself are straight faced telling me that its going to be a 2-3 year process to evaluate the sensibilities of this direction.... there seems to be a fundamental disconnect and dishonesty from the realities of this teams current circumstances from some of you


....the whole talking point of making a move for a 31 year old player is that it would help us in the present push for relevance/competitiveness but now that it doesn't seem to be going as smoothly as you nikkas anticipated you're moving the goalposts to "well actually right now doesn't even matter.. who cares about this season its all about 2 years from now baby!!!"


Listen man you nikkas can tell yourselves whatever you want to make yourself happy .... you can say i'm "misrepresenting" you but what you're not going to do is sell me some wolf tickets and misdirection..I would bet my entire bank account that AKME did not make this move with the intention to abort this year or only see marginal improvements next year with hopes of being relevant 2 years from now..


Hiding this teams current failure to compete behind the "I'm not done" comment as if he has LeBron James waiting to be pulled out of his back pocket is pure disingenuous deflection at its finest ... of course "he's not done" continuing to improve the teams chances to win every year is his fukking job nikka ...nobody is expecting him to retire after doing one trade

Man STFU

Tired of debbie downer ass wannabe psychic nikkas

 

[Left.A1]

Like I said these shell shocked nikkas in here projecting their disingenuous and delusional babble going out sad but Here's the post deadline presser with Arturas in which he intimated several times the Front Offices desire to complete this move in order to improve the teams ability to compete this year for the playoffs ...

Anyone now claiming that the team was NOT trying to "win now" when trading for a soon to be 31 year old player is simply lying to themselves or far too dilusional to engage in competent basketball discussion ... It's sad TBH but here are the more pertinent quotes referring to playoff expectations this year:

6:15 - "We really improved today and we have 29 games left were going to make a push and see what happens rest of the season"


18:00 - "We've got 29 games to go, In which were trying to improve our playoff odds ... You need that kind of group of players player to compete in every game"

KC Johnson (Bulls Beat Writer) literally says to Arturas this move reads as a clear "win now" manuever at 2:00 yet AK doesn't reject or refute anything that KC is intimating because obviously he agreed and the rest of his commentary inforces that


I really do feel sorry for some nikkas that get so caught in the trappings of Homerism that they're reduced to fabrications / alternative facts / & narratives as a coping mechanism to keep their sports enthusiasm entact ... That sounds rough man

but nevertheless anyone now shifting the goalposts to claiming that AKME were NOT trying to win now with the deadline moves in the face of those very sentiments coming out of their own mouths are beyond gone at this point ...

Make no mistake if this team with "Two All-star" can't even get into the playoffs in the weak East this current year it's unquestionably an abject failure ... You can sanitize it and excuse it however you want but that is failure ..

furthermore claiming that continuing to lose games whilst boasting about having "two All-star" is going to help change the perception of this team in league circles and more importantly among impactful players on the move is more fantasy treading which it seems like several bulls fans have been beaten into over the several years ... It's really an unfortunate unfolding

 

[Left.A1]

Man STFU

Tired of debbie downer ass wannabe psychic nikkas

Delusional Detached Disassociative


Unfortunately this quote is the perfect encapsulation of several of this year's Chicago Bulls enthusiast ...begging to just tread fantasies.... Peace be with you brother

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Like I said these shell shocked nikkas in here projecting their disingenuous and delusional babble going out sad but Here's the post deadline presser with Arturas in which he intimated several times the Front Offices desire to complete this move in order to improve the teams ability to compete this year for the playoffs ...

Anyone now claiming that the team was NOT trying to "win now" when trading for a soon to be 31 year old player is simply lying to themselves or far too dilusional to engage in competent basketball discussion ... It's sad TBH but here are the more pertinent quotes referring to playoff expectations this year:

6:15 - "We really improved today and we have 29 games left were going to make a push and see what happens rest of the season"


18:00 - "We've got 29 games to go, In which were trying to improve our playoff odds ... You need that kind of group of players player to compete in every game"

KC Johnson (Bulls Beat Writer) literally says to Arturas this move reads as a clear "win now" manuever at 2:00 yet AK doesn't reject or refute anything that KC is intimating because obviously he agreed and the rest of his commentary inforces that


I really do feel sorry for some nikkas that get so caught in the trappings of Homerism that they're reduced to fabrications / alternative facts / & narratives as a coping mechanism to keep their sports enthusiasm entact ... That sounds rough man

but nevertheless anyone now shifting the goalposts to claiming that AKME were NOT trying to win now with the deadline moves in the face of those very sentiments coming out of their own mouths are beyond gone at this point ...

Make no mistake if this team with "Two All-star" can't even get into the playoffs in the weak East this current year it's unquestionably an abject failure ... You can sanitize it and excuse it however you want but that is failure ..

furthermore claiming that continuing to lose games whilst boasting about having "two All-star" is going to help change the perception of this team in league circles and more importantly among impactful players on the move is more fantasy treading which it seems like several bulls fans have been beaten into over the several years ... It's really an unfortunate unfolding

Are you really in here trying to make a case that the entire purpose in trading for Vucevic was to simply make the playoffs this year?!?! Again at this point you are arguing with yourself

Your deliberately taking the win now sentiments out of context. Your also short sighted on the goals of the franchise and want to box us into what took place at the trade deadline on whether or not we make the playoffs or not. If that was your expectations then that's your business. Again AK made it clear this was not the end of the building of the team. We all were aware that there were more moves to be made and more holes to fill. It's really that simple. Don't come and impose on us that we should have only expected a playoff appearance to justify the vuc trade. Again that's your hang up. Most of us , even if we made the playoffs understood that more had to be done to get us to a legit east contender. For instance if we made the playoffs we would not have felt good about going into the off season standing pat. That is why I'm saying let's give it the off season maybe even next trade deadline then see what we are. Coming out the trade deadline all of us already understood we were still short that pg we need. You want us to ignore that so you can come in here get your ego stroked to act as if you somehow some negrodamus.

Which is strange because you dam sure never gave the tank plan only half a season to come into fruition. You want us to conclude that this is a abject mess too early in the process simply because you still in your feelings over past debates and want to feel validated. Well most of us have more patience than that. As I concluded the last time we did this back and forth if you don't like the direction of the team then the exit is just a click away. But coming in here misrepresenting our position on the trade and arguing points we not even making is making this silly.

 

[Left.A1]

@cornercommission2k12


Check it out bruh ...ain't nobody reading that wall of text my nikka


These Delusional Detached Disassociated nikkas will sit up here and ramble a books worth of patently disingenuous fabricated gibberish just to have the nonsense cleanly repudiated in crystal clear 4k yet continue blabbering more of the same nonsense expecting to be taken serious ... my nikka ...pack it up - hit the showers - and go back to being a family man ...this floundering shyt ain't a good look doggie

 

[kt773]

yall kan kall me a stan all u want idgaf, but we coulda picked up rose for peanuts before the trade deadline

and the pros would have out weighed the cons , specially when u consider how traash our guards have been


lonzo would have been nice but even this would have helped
look at the knicks

sometimed it aint akways the guranteeed homerun ..u gotta look at the lil.pieces as well

aadd that to the mentorship for coby x leadership 2 this team

for context

Move on fam.....I just grabbed the d rose Mitchell and ness throwback , green joint, you should buy one too, it’ll help you move on

 

[El Jefe]

Of these 13 wins 2 were vs +.500 teams

the bucks without Greek freak,Middleton and holiday and the grizzlies a fringe 8-10 seed the rest were vs lottery teams/fringe play in teams they lost to every single good team they played.the bulls need defense ,shooting and playmaking from the pg position rose wouldn’t do jack for this team

dont matter who the Ws are against u needs Ws PERIOD

bulls are losing against bum teams at the moment regardless , and it dont mean anythin as the goal was to play playoff bball this season as AK said and as others mentioned in this thread already


no matter which way u spin it if its a move for Peanuts , u Make that move if u tryin 2 make the playoffs



so u gotta win your winnable games and be comp3titive or in the convo in the other games and then let th3 cards fall where they may

no.one is expectin a title this year and no one is sayin its the solution 10 years from now

what it is however is experi3nce and playoff experi3nce for this group of players individually and as a group .. now its lookin like another year in the Lottery

 

[god shamgod]

dont matter who the Ws are against u needs Ws PERIOD

bulls are losing against bum teams at the moment regardless , and it dont mean anythin as the goal was to play playoff bball this season as AK said and as others mentioned in this thread already


no matter which way u spin it if its a move for Peanuts , u Make that move if u tryin 2 make the playoffs



so u gotta win your winnable games and be comp3titive or in the convo in the other games and then let th3 cards fall where they may

no.one is expectin a title this year and no one is sayin its the solution 10 years from now

what it is however is experi3nce and playoff experi3nce for this group of players individually and as a group .. now its lookin like another year in the Lottery

You’re right bulls fukked up not getting rose cuz a small sample size vs trash teams erases all the losing dude been doing on the pistons,t wolves & knicks(the 1st time) the last 5 years while being one of the worst defenders in the nba. We’ll agree to disagree

 

[Trot LaRoc]

yall kan kall me a stan all u want idgaf, but we coulda picked up rose for peanuts before the trade deadline

and the pros would have out weighed the cons , specially when u consider how traash our guards have been


lonzo would have been nice but even this would have helped
look at the knicks

sometimed it aint akways the guranteeed homerun ..u gotta look at the lil.pieces as well

aadd that to the mentorship for coby x leadership 2 this team

for context

Rose specifically wanted to play for Thibs again....he credits Thibs for helping revive his career
He doesnt want to come back here, it is what it is

 

[Miggs]

Raptors were clearly afraid they might leap over the Bulls with LaVine being out so they basically are sitting all there regulars the next few games...

 

[LEEeveryday]

so we trying to covert tank right? This is a great job.