The success of Designer/Bobby Shmurda just shows no one checks for southern music outside the beats

[Banned Account12]

South had its run

We don't like you kopy kats anyway

 

[DaSk8D00D]

Bruh, they just started in like the past year, are you serious.

You're saying that New York artists are better at making southern or drill music than southern artists because they get YouTube views and have SINGLES that chart well, but that's mostly just a benefit of being a one hit wonder or a flash in the pan "trendy" artist in the biggest city in the US. Don't act like that New York hype didn't have people acting like JEREMY LIN was a superstar for like 2 weeks

You can't give any examples of NY artists with that style having true staying power & long-term relevancy the same way the originators of the style do. Even asap rocky dropped ONE timeless, classic mixtape and has been fairly trash for a while now.


If anything NY in 2016 is the best place to be a one-hit wonder or trend hopper simply because there's so many people & resources there. If you get lucky & go viral or somehow get you're lil 15 minutes of fame, you can eat nicer than you would anywhere else off the mass exposure

 

[NatiboyB]

I'm from cali and even I agree.

I just noticed it and had to make a thread on it. When 3 different unknown up North artist all use the souths formula and make bigger hits than the "hottest" southern rappers, that should tell you something. NY and hip hop juts go hand in hand.

breh when did you get all those neg reps

 

[SirBiatch]

No one shyts on the south. I recognize the greatness of southern music. NYC just does it better. It's just better music. Smarter music. We're better even when we do what y'all do. There's a certain quality and skill that NY artists have that can't be found anywhere else.

Case in point: ASAP Rocky.

Took that Memphis sound and outdid them on their own shyt.

No region cares as much about hip hop as the East Coast. I await y'all affected quotes.

 

[DonKnock]

NY has had nothing but style sharkers since 50 fell off

 

[Big Skilly Films]

People say "The South" and compare it to NYC like the south is one place. nikkas be from Memphis, Atlanta, NOLA, H-Town and everywhere else and say "NYC fell off".

There's been time when ATL, NOLA, MEMPHIS etc has fallen off too but no one notices it because it's all "The South".

When one city is thrown up against multiple cities and held to that same standard. It becomes clear that that one city is a big deal.

thats that shyt that makes your soul burn slow

 

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[H.I.M.]

Facts. Beats and flow play an extremely large part in hip hop now, the south just so happened to hop on the "hard beat/diff flow" shyt first, so people were forced to listen.

Once NY/East Coast started doing the same thing they started over shadowing the south.

Desiiner-Panda number 2 song
Bobby Shmurda-Hot nikka peaked at like Number 4

Fetty wap-Numerous hits

meanwhile bammas like Yo Gotti and Young dolph gotta tour 250 times a yaer and release countless records jus to crack the hot 100

nikkas like Gotti, Dolph, Boosie etc. music isn't appealing to cockazoids hence the lack of commercial/crossover/chart success....the cracka/non-black consumer fuels the mainstream market in hip-hop...i mean you can assert that NY'ers that make Southern style rap are able to crossover better with a audiences outside black communities that's about it...none of the dudes you named are as hot as Dolph is in the streets right now in reality...that "panda" shyt is one of the biggest forced hits i ever seen...play that shyt in the club/bar/party setting and it's all around.

People don't even fukk with that song like that fa'real fa'real....it ain't like when "hot nikka" or "don't like" dropped...or even "versace"...and it damn sure ain't what march madness was last year i dont give a fukk what them charts say...and i cant stand that song

Even with Drill rap, random NY rapper starts drill rappin, getting millions of views







Chicago bammas dont even do them numbers no more

Famous Dex can do the number on that it took 6 months to get on that video in about a month or two....

I don't even consider Cole a southern artist. Most of his inspirations are NYC based. Not that he's a native but the influence is clear. He lives in NYC and raps about NYC a lot. Especially early on

I think what you meant to say is....A southern rapper is able to do New Yorks style of rap better than New Yorkers..if not...where are the New York rappers that are doing J.Cole numbers?

 

[Osmosis]

Funny thing is the beats for Panda and Hot nikka are trash af

 

[TruDatz]

NY cats not even sounding like NY cats tho. Everybody sounding like each other right now

 

[Vilify]

That's like saying white artist do black music better than black artists. Since they tend to blow up bigger than the artists they're actually mimicking.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

That's because these east coast radio stations push the shyt like crazy. Remember the Funk Flex fiasco when we was waiting for a Meek Mill drop and we heard Fetty Wap about roughly a hundred times in an hour?

It's the opposite, who tf is dapping this dumb shyt? The fucc you talkin about?

You talk about Meek & Fetty. In my bag was the hottest song in Philly in 08, Meek still didn't get any real support until he started running with Ross 3 years later. Fetty Wap was performing from CT-southern Jersey since summer 2014, Trap Queen didn't get on Hot 97 radio play list until almost a year after it was released, if he was from Georgia shyt woulda been playlisted within weeks. NY & LA radio are huge media markets and corporate controlled, artists from Atlanta get a MUCH bigger push through radio.

You can't go to a party in the tristate without hearing lobby - 821, I've never heard that shyt on Hot 97. They only just caught up with Milly Rock, that was the wave in 2014 The music industry & streets are completely disjointed on the east.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

That's like saying white artist do black music better than black artists. Since they tend to blow up bigger than the artists they're actually mimicking.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

You're saying that New York artists are better at making southern or drill music than southern artists because they get YouTube views and have SINGLES that chart well, but that's mostly just a benefit of being a one hit wonder or a flash in the pan "trendy" artist in the biggest city in the US. Don't act like that New York hype didn't have people acting like JEREMY LIN was a superstar for like 2 weeks

You can't give any examples of NY artists with that style having true staying power & long-term relevancy the same way the originators of the style do. Even asap rocky dropped ONE timeless, classic mixtape and has been fairly trash for a while now.


If anything NY in 2016 is the best place to be a one-hit wonder or trend hopper simply because there's so many people & resources there. If you get lucky & go viral or somehow get you're lil 15 minutes of fame, you can eat nicer than you would anywhere else off the mass exposure

Aside from Future, which southern artists with that style have had any staying power? Atlanta has been the home of the one hit wonders for the last decade. NY just following their microwave music formula.

I don't even know why you mentioned Rocky, we're talking one hit wonders, you played yourself talking about he dropped one classic album how many have come from the south in the last TEN YEARS?
Flockavellia?
DS2?

& that's a a decade which the South has been supposedly running shyt & NY has been irrelevant

 

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Wale not from the South, D.C. is not the South. All of Cole's major influences are from NYC and he moved here at 18 for college.

Nobody gives a fukk about Migos no more outside the South all their tapes since No Label 2 flopped and they peaked at the first YRN.

Right now they on some novelty shyt riding the dab wave.

Future the only claim you got in that list as well as Young Thug...