These links don’t work….
Quote me saying my screen name is something other than slang. I’ll wait…
The state of New York just issued $183 million reparations to descendants of Holocaust survivors. This shyt is beyond insane
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Quote me saying my screen name is something other than slang. I’ll wait…
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hOw Do YoU dEtErMiNe WhO gEtS wHaT
hOw Do YoU dEtErMiNe WhO gEtS wHaT
I copied them from an older thread. And only the second link didn't work. It's fixed now.
Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle County, [June 1774]
"That in the Year 1662, an Act of Genral Assembly was made, prescribing the Manner of proving Rights to Lands due for the Importation of Servants, and obtaining Certificates thereon, to intitle the Importers to Surveys and Patents; and giving such proofs and Certificates the preference to Actual Surveys without them. And in the same Year, another Act of Assembly was made, reciting that the former laws2 concerning deserted Lands, reserved to the first Taker-up his Rights to take up Land in Another Place, and enacting that for the future, in Care of deserted Lands, the Rights as well as the Lands shall be forfeited, and the grantee made incapable of useing any of them afterwards: from which Law it is Clear, that Importation-Rights are Always good, Until they have been Applyed to Patents for Land, and the Said Land forfeited, by Want of Seating and Planting.
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"By an order of 7 Apr. 1773 the Privy Council stopped further grants of land by the colonial governors, and by an order of 3 Feb. 1774 the same body set forth a plan for subsequent disposition of lands-namely, by auction-and abrogated the previous methods, such as the long-standing importation or headright system by which fifty acres of land were assigned to an individual for each person imported and settled by that individual in America."
Founders Online: Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle C …
Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle County, [June 1774]
"Beginning January 1, 1863, any U.S. citizen—or intended citizen—who had never taken up arms against the United States could claim up to 160 acres and take title by living and farming on the land for five years. Total charge: $18. Female heads of household were eligible. African-Americans would be eligible after they became citizens under the 14th Amendment in 1868. Native Americans would be displaced."
Document Deep Dive: How the Homestead Act Transformed America
Compare documents filed by the first and last homesteaders in the United States
www.smithsonianmag.com
“New settlers who paid their way to Virginia received 50 acres of land. However, most of the workers who arrived in Virginia were indentured servants, people who pledged to perform five to seven years of labor.”
[...]
“Details of the Headright System
Individuals who could afford it would accumulate land by paying for poor individuals to travel to Virginia. In the 1600s, the cost was roughly 6 pounds per person, or approximately $215 today. This system led to the development of indentured servitude."
Convict Labor during the Colonial Period - Encyclopedia Virginia
Beginning of Convict Transportation King James I Between 1615 and 1699, English courts sent approximately 2,300 convicts to the American colonies. In the 1700s, prior to the end of the practice in 1776, another 52,200 or more arrived—only about 30 percent of the number of white indentured...
encyclopediavirginia.org
Headright System | Definition, Function & Significance - Lesson | Study.com
What did the headright system do? Learn how the headright system worked. Read about headright policy and its growth in Virginia. Learn about its...
When did you mention this the first time in this thread? Before or after I made that insertion and connection to the Sanskrit origin? That coupled with the selected image, sure made it look even more suspicious. And people were already wondering about your background, as they have done so often.
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FishNGrits
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Honestly I just respect them at this point. They just game the fck out the system and don’t care.
Pull Up the Roots
Veteran
Did Stuart Eizenstat write an article about how this is divisive?
Wait a sec… you tried to connect my screen name to a black general?I copied them from an older thread. And only the second link didn't work. It's fixed now.
Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle County, [June 1774]
"That in the Year 1662, an Act of Genral Assembly was made, prescribing the Manner of proving Rights to Lands due for the Importation of Servants, and obtaining Certificates thereon, to intitle the Importers to Surveys and Patents; and giving such proofs and Certificates the preference to Actual Surveys without them. And in the same Year, another Act of Assembly was made, reciting that the former laws2 concerning deserted Lands, reserved to the first Taker-up his Rights to take up Land in Another Place, and enacting that for the future, in Care of deserted Lands, the Rights as well as the Lands shall be forfeited, and the grantee made incapable of useing any of them afterwards: from which Law it is Clear, that Importation-Rights are Always good, Until they have been Applyed to Patents for Land, and the Said Land forfeited, by Want of Seating and Planting.
[...]
"By an order of 7 Apr. 1773 the Privy Council stopped further grants of land by the colonial governors, and by an order of 3 Feb. 1774 the same body set forth a plan for subsequent disposition of lands-namely, by auction-and abrogated the previous methods, such as the long-standing importation or headright system by which fifty acres of land were assigned to an individual for each person imported and settled by that individual in America."
Founders Online: Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle C …
Petition of George Mason for Warrants for Lands in Fincastle County, [June 1774]founders.archives.gov
"Beginning January 1, 1863, any U.S. citizen—or intended citizen—who had never taken up arms against the United States could claim up to 160 acres and take title by living and farming on the land for five years. Total charge: $18. Female heads of household were eligible. African-Americans would be eligible after they became citizens under the 14th Amendment in 1868. Native Americans would be displaced."
Document Deep Dive: How the Homestead Act Transformed America
Compare documents filed by the first and last homesteaders in the United States
“New settlers who paid their way to Virginia received 50 acres of land. However, most of the workers who arrived in Virginia were indentured servants, people who pledged to perform five to seven years of labor.”
[...]
“Details of the Headright System
Individuals who could afford it would accumulate land by paying for poor individuals to travel to Virginia. In the 1600s, the cost was roughly 6 pounds per person, or approximately $215 today. This system led to the development of indentured servitude."
Convict Labor during the Colonial Period - Encyclopedia Virginia
Beginning of Convict Transportation King James I Between 1615 and 1699, English courts sent approximately 2,300 convicts to the American colonies. In the 1700s, prior to the end of the practice in 1776, another 52,200 or more arrived—only about 30 percent of the number of white indentured...encyclopediavirginia.org
Headright System | Definition, Function & Significance - Lesson | Study.com
What did the headright system do? Learn how the headright system worked. Read about headright policy and its growth in Virginia. Learn about its...study.com
When did you mention this the first time in this thread? Before or after I made that insertion and connection to the Sanskrit origin? That coupled with the selected image, sure made it look even more suspicious. And people were already wondering about your background, as they have done so often.
You did your googles and found 98 people in India… then tried to say a black general who was a major figure to break into leadership roles kinda looked Indian. You don’t think you are reaching at that point?
You decided to actually edit your post to put valid links… then quote parts of articles that have nothing to do with actual research on current valuations…
Are you trolling me?
Just noticed this...Just a few...:
From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the Twenty-First Century - Sandy Darity.
The Color of Money: Banking and Racial Inequality - Mehrsa Baradaran.
Cost of Being a Black American - Dr. Shawn Rochester
The Color of Law - Dr. Richard Rothstein.
I ask you to cite research... and you send me the names of books....
is the research cited in the books available publicly?
if so,.. have you even read the books to know what research they cite...
because if you did... you should be able to link straight to the research... not just the whole book.
The D-List Vet
Being in a recommendation system.
they government never giving us shyt, it's best to best to get your money right and buy land in Africa.I gave you books by scholars and professors of reputable universities.
That is a more than a source. And it tells that you are clueless about this topic…, which is not strange for someone with a Sanskrit identification.
“Calculating reparations:
Darity and co-author Andrea Kirsten Mullen have a new book, "From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the Twenty-First Century," that analyzes past estimates for reparation amounts and offers new ones.
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign economist Larry Neal estimated in 1983 that America owed $1.4 trillion in reparations for Black descendants of enslaved people. Neal based this figure on the amount of wages earned by non-enslaved workers between 1620 and 1840, subtracting costs related to the care of slaves (food, housing, care, etc.).
According to Darity and Mullen, that 1983 figure compounded at 4%, 5% and 6% interest by 2019, would be $5.7 trillion, $8.1 trillion and $11.4 trillion, respectively, as per their calculations.
They also suggest there was a major flaw with Neal's calculation: it doesn't take into account the 20 years before the Civil War.
Roger Ransom, a former economics professor at the University of Virginia and the University of California, and Richard Sutch, who was a professor emeritus of economics at the University of California, before his death in 2019, based their calculation on the profit from slavery between 1806 and 1860. Their method, compounded at interest rates of 4%, 5% and 6% in 2018, would amount to $14 billion, $19.7 billion, and $27.7 billion, Darity and Mullen figured. But they also cited flaws with Ransom and Sutch's methodology. They argue that the calculation doesn't account for the first 30 years of slavery in the country, it omits profit from the slave trade, and charges the enslaved for their own maintenance costs, resulting in "the lowest bill for black reparations among those we examine," Darity and Mullen write in their book.
One of the more complex calculations is by Thomas Craemer, a professor of public policy at the University of Connecticut. He multiplied the "prevailing market wage" by the number of hours enslaved people worked (assuming a 24-hour work day) between the years 1776 and 1865. That model, calculated for 2019 at 4%, 5% and 6% interest rates, works out to $16.4 trillion, $17 trillion and $17.7 trillion, respectively.
The problem with Craemer's calculation, according to Darity and Mullen, is that it relies on "the market wage for non-slave labor" rather than "the hypothetical non-slave labor wage that would have prevailed in the absence of captive enslaved Africans." This yields a slightly lower calculation as per Darity and Mullen.”
What America owes: How reparations would look and who would pay
There's been more talk over the last few years about reparations for descendants of enslaved people. How much would they get? What would reparations look like; who pays?
abcnews.go.com
I wonder, do you play dumb or are you dumb in real life?
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I gave you books by scholars and professors of reputable universities.
That is a more than a source. And it tells that you are clueless about this topic…, which is not strange for someone with a Sanskrit identification.
“Calculating reparations:
Darity and co-author Andrea Kirsten Mullen have a new book, "From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the Twenty-First Century," that analyzes past estimates for reparation amounts and offers new ones.
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign economist Larry Neal estimated in 1983 that America owed $1.4 trillion in reparations for Black descendants of enslaved people. Neal based this figure on the amount of wages earned by non-enslaved workers between 1620 and 1840, subtracting costs related to the care of slaves (food, housing, care, etc.).
According to Darity and Mullen, that 1983 figure compounded at 4%, 5% and 6% interest by 2019, would be $5.7 trillion, $8.1 trillion and $11.4 trillion, respectively, as per their calculations.
They also suggest there was a major flaw with Neal's calculation: it doesn't take into account the 20 years before the Civil War.
Roger Ransom, a former economics professor at the University of Virginia and the University of California, and Richard Sutch, who was a professor emeritus of economics at the University of California, before his death in 2019, based their calculation on the profit from slavery between 1806 and 1860. Their method, compounded at interest rates of 4%, 5% and 6% in 2018, would amount to $14 billion, $19.7 billion, and $27.7 billion, Darity and Mullen figured. But they also cited flaws with Ransom and Sutch's methodology. They argue that the calculation doesn't account for the first 30 years of slavery in the country, it omits profit from the slave trade, and charges the enslaved for their own maintenance costs, resulting in "the lowest bill for black reparations among those we examine," Darity and Mullen write in their book.
One of the more complex calculations is by Thomas Craemer, a professor of public policy at the University of Connecticut. He multiplied the "prevailing market wage" by the number of hours enslaved people worked (assuming a 24-hour work day) between the years 1776 and 1865. That model, calculated for 2019 at 4%, 5% and 6% interest rates, works out to $16.4 trillion, $17 trillion and $17.7 trillion, respectively.
The problem with Craemer's calculation, according to Darity and Mullen, is that it relies on "the market wage for non-slave labor" rather than "the hypothetical non-slave labor wage that would have prevailed in the absence of captive enslaved Africans." This yields a slightly lower calculation as per Darity and Mullen.”
What America owes: How reparations would look and who would pay
There's been more talk over the last few years about reparations for descendants of enslaved people. How much would they get? What would reparations look like; who pays?
I wonder, do you play dumb or are you dumb in real life?
lol@you deciding to directly cite actual studies after i called you out....
you aint slick
sending books you havnt even read is disingenuous...
just like trying to connect a historical black figure to india...
you're more interested in "winning" a discussion instead of educating
I wonder, do you play dumb or are you dumb in real life?
I ask, since you weren’t familiar with these names and books. Yet, what to argue about this topic?
It’s like talking about psychiatry but don’t know who Carl Jung is?
Or talking about psychology and don’t know who Ivan Pavlov is?
Or the talking about the relatively theory and don’t know who Einstein is?
Or talking about the civil rights movement/ era, and don’t know who MLK, or Malcom X is.
It’s that weird.
You are still arguing about your East Indian Sanskrit identity. I have moved on from that…
funny how you just don't even address what is said in my posts...
you want to "win" so bad you'll throw a historical black figure under the bus just because he's in my avy...
anytime you've posted something i didn't have experience with, I literally commented that I needed to read up on it or was reading it...
when i asked for studies... and you just sent the title of books...
you didnt even know what studies were cited in the books..
you had to google articles about the books and then copy and paste what the article said... instead of simply articulating it yourself when I first asked about the info...
you played yourself
You are now derailing the topic since you have nothing else to refute. As if bold and capital letters are going to convince anyone here. lol
You have not linked in what Black community they use “savvir”. lol
Sometimes books layout groundwork, you big dummy. After that I gave you a link, with sources material by Dr. Sandy Darity. I also posted lectures on this subject.
And this is will you have not posted one single link! You can’t make this shyt up!
And it’s not me who is connecting a Black American to East India, it is you who is doing it. You have trouble with identification, the same way you falsely contextualized my screen name.
Surprisingly you don’t know that names of these scholars and professors on this subject.
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cited article in OP
Referenced Panic of 1873 when speaking on Bank failures
Panic of 1873 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Yes speculation across the entire financial system led to many banks failing the same exact way in the same time period......
This is different than actual plundering of assets by a nation that lost the war it started...
my point isnt that slaves arent owed anything...
my point is that the jewish assets still existed and had a papertrail
it's much harder to do this for us...this situation shouldnt be used as a direct comparison
you didnt even read the posts you're angered about...
lol... this again...
when is the last time you posted your picture on this board?
lets do a ban bet that im indian
