The Sopranos Series - Re-Watch (Spoilers!!!)

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I watched Sopranos for the first time around three or four months ago.. Used to wonder how people could possibly think it's better than shows like Breaking Bad, Mad Men and the Wire. Now it's my GOAT show :wow:
The Sopranos, The Wire, and Mad Men are my holy trinity of television shows.
 
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So what really happened to Tony at the end?


Who clipped him?

will likely never know with certainty. I believe the creator left it open ended in case of a sequel movie or something (sadly Jimmy died), with STRONG contextual hints that Tony was shot.

now obviously the members only guy was the trigger man but the mastermind would’ve been NY/Butch with some assistance/go ahead from who would be remaining of the Jersey family (Patsy and Paulie). Paulie was always snaking around and Patsy had reasons to hate Tony too (Tony had his twin killed). These two would easily be manipulated and forced to conform or merge interests further with NY/Lupertazzi family since at this point jerseys big earners and hitters were all dead. Paulie was never a big warmer and patsy never was powerful or ever above rank of soldier.

NY/Butch gave the ok to hit Phil but if butch was that big of a snake to his own family what makes anyone think he wouldn’t double cross Tony, a man butch never showed any respect towards?

in the end, Butch had the most to gain...have Tony do the dirty work to take out Phil so now butch can head the family as well as having Tony taken out to absorb Jersey (which was NYs plan all along before Phil died).
 

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will likely never know with certainty. I believe the creator left it open ended in case of a sequel movie or something (sadly Jimmy died), with STRONG contextual hints that Tony was shot.

now obviously the members only guy was the trigger man but the mastermind would’ve been NY/Butch with some assistance/go ahead from who would be remaining of the Jersey family (Patsy and Paulie). Paulie was always snaking around and Patsy had reasons to hate Tony too (Tony had his twin killed). These two would easily be manipulated and forced to conform or merge interests further with NY/Lupertazzi family since at this point jerseys big earners and hitters were all dead. Paulie was never a big warmer and patsy never was powerful or ever above rank of soldier.

NY/Butch gave the ok to hit Phil but if butch was that big of a snake to his own family what makes anyone think he wouldn’t double cross Tony, a man butch never showed any respect towards?

in the end, Butch had the most to gain...have Tony do the dirty work to take out Phil so now butch can head the family as well as having Tony taken out to absorb Jersey (which was NYs plan all along before Phil died).
The scene where Paulie and Patsy are talking alone in the Bing and Paulie leaves looking all suspicious made me believe this. But when Sil gets shot the fukk up Patsy is in the car with him and runs for his fukkin' life that made me think maybe they had nothing to do with it.
Something else that confused me. When they put a hit on Phil and the out of town Italians kill the wrong guy. What happened there?
  • Was it basic incompetence?
  • Was Phil hip to the scheme and planned to have a lookalike?
  • Did Paulie give NY a heads up?
What's your take?
 
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The scene where Paulie and Patsy are talking alone in the Bing and Paulie leaves looking all suspicious made me believe this. But when Sil gets shot the fukk up Patsy is in the car with him and runs for his fukkin' life that made me think maybe they had nothing to do with it.
Something else that confused me. When they put a hit on Phil and the out of town Italians kill the wrong guy. What happened there?
  • Was it basic incompetence?
  • Was Phil hip to the scheme and planned to have a lookalike?
  • Did Paulie give NY a heads up?
What's your take?

pure incompetence...they followed Phil’s side piece and her dad happen to look somewhat like Phil...and mistaken identity.

Phil skipped town til after that went down.
 

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will likely never know with certainty. I believe the creator left it open ended in case of a sequel movie or something (sadly Jimmy died), with STRONG contextual hints that Tony was shot.

now obviously the members only guy was the trigger man but the mastermind would’ve been NY/Butch with some assistance/go ahead from who would be remaining of the Jersey family (Patsy and Paulie). Paulie was always snaking around and Patsy had reasons to hate Tony too (Tony had his twin killed). These two would easily be manipulated and forced to conform or merge interests further with NY/Lupertazzi family since at this point jerseys big earners and hitters were all dead. Paulie was never a big warmer and patsy never was powerful or ever above rank of soldier.

NY/Butch gave the ok to hit Phil but if butch was that big of a snake to his own family what makes anyone think he wouldn’t double cross Tony, a man butch never showed any respect towards?

in the end, Butch had the most to gain...have Tony do the dirty work to take out Phil so now butch can head the family as well as having Tony taken out to absorb Jersey (which was NYs plan all along before Phil died).

NY needed Phil Leotardo gone and they used Jersey to do it. Then they went and murked Tony to send a message that Jersey needed to stay in their lane as a glorified crew :mjpls:

Butchy pushed the button :sas2:


Patsy had a lot to gain going forward since Meadow was marrying his son. Paulie is a soldier who cant earn enough to take charge. Jersey was done for in the short term anyway bc damn near everybody was snitching :dead:
 

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Finally on season 6, not looking forward to these fukking dream state episodes :comeon::comeon:



Uncle Jun without his teeth was a wild look :russ:


Free the GOAT Johnny Sack though. Hesh son in law got ran the fukk over :dead:
 

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Finally on season 6, not looking forward to these fukking dream state episodes :comeon::comeon:



Uncle Jun without his teeth was a wild look :russ:


Free the GOAT Johnny Sack though. Hesh son in law got ran the fukk over :dead:
I’m probably in the minority that never liked those episodes. Especially the season 2 one where he got food poisoning. He knew from the time of that barbecue when Janice came back p*ssy’s story was bullshyt.
 
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