The snakes at work

[Field Marshall Bradley]

So it's okay to take opportunities and food of his employees tables because he is afraid of losing his job?

It's not his decision to decide who gets an opportunity for a promotion. His job is to forward all the email to his employees and let management decide who they want to promote and give a raise to.

Nah. See. That's where you got it wrong....

OP is trying to get dude fired. OP already has a job and so do his constituents. There could be legit reasons why he did not email those openings and 2nd, 9 times out of 10 its company policy to formally post those positions so they shouldn't be a big secret to begin with...

 

[Brown_Pride]

lack of opportunity, or even the perception of lack of opportunity is decimating my company. we are losing people left and right. now the company is scrambling to boost morale. people with no jobs lined up are still quitting.

what's the study they did with rats and light in a such?

Lab Rats, Light, and Hope
A group of graduate students did a very bizarre experiment. They took lab rats and put them in a tank of water and placed the tank in a totally dark room. They went into the joining room and monitored them with video equipment. The rats swam for almost six hours before giving up and drowning. The students then took another set of lab rats and put them in a tank of water and placed that tank in a room where there was a small lamp. Their hypothesis was that the light would give the rats hope and they would survive longer. As it turns out, the rats swam almost 17 hours. Much longer than the rats in total darkness. Something about the light enabled them to survive longer.

hope is a mutha fuker man.

OP did the right thing IMHO. He ran through "appropriate" channels and such, it was OP's JOB just like it was the boss's job to forward that shyt in. Can't fault a guy for doing his job (which could ultimately result in the betterment of life for several people.)

 

[Liquid]

I agree with most of this stuff in this thread.. but I've played C politics for a long time.

You did the right thing... IN the Wrong way. It may be ok w your company.. but even if you're not in trouble... And even if you did the right thing.....

You are gonna be looked at as the person who did some sh1t like this.

You should have saved the emails.. but you never embarrass or call out anyone. For two reasons - people don't like it - plus it shows everyone in leadership that you would do the same to them. 2) IT shows a compulsive response... and not a calculated one,,, aka someone who prolly will never be ready for a leadership position.

Reality is 1) companies like sh1t handled at the lowest level first

2) What are you going to gain???..... It's good to look out for everyone, but you should always look out for yourself first. Corporate might not even do anything to dude- OR WORSE dude might have a valid explanation - for those particle positions. How do you know that, if you would have approached this lazy b*stard that you couldn't have gained loyalty and had him in your corner? You could have potentially had exclusive rights. Plus, if you're about doing the right things - do whatever you have to do to get in the position to do the right things, right now ur not even in the position to affect change.

Or what about that time that you might need something or want a promotion-- you have already played this card that you could have used at that time.

I know it sound like playing games or some 48 laws sh1t... but I'm in charge of like 20 people, older than me. You manager played all this sh1t to get to where he's at. We don't live in a nation to were hardwork + skill + youth/longevity = positions. It's hard for these old fcks to retire these days plus they are used to getting paid madd money for minimum education. Then you have young people with maddd connections who get opportunities with no experience. So I say think every action out. plan for the future to maximize results.

Me pulling the card will benefit the company because it gives people a chance to move up the ladder. Saving the company resources and not go through all those damn interviews, background and drug tests as well if someone is willing to take a position and possibly even relocate. Plus I don't agree with your stance on looking out for myself only, showing that you have the best interest for others and holding people accountable is what a supervisor or someone who has those qualities does (which I've been offered in previous jobs before). I don't feel like I am in the position to ask why those emails were not being forwarded to us, I will let the offices handle that as that is something that it is EXPECTED by THEM for HIM to forward to US.

@Peter Vecsey I am not trying to get anyone fired. I am pointing out something that I am pretty sure corporate would be interested in seeing. Why would he hold those emails if corporate states to forward to the rest of the local co-workers? That makes no sense.

 

[kbtwofour]

Nah. See. That's where you got it wrong....

OP is trying to get dude fired. OP already has a job and so do his constituents. There could be legit reasons why he did not email those openings and 2nd, 9 times out of 10 its company policy to formally post those positions so they shouldn't be a big secret to begin with...

Where did he say he wanted to get the man fired? He should be fired if the company finds out he was holding the information back from his employees.

I currently work for a company that does not post internal jobs for employees. They sometimes offer the job to someone or have someone already in mind before they even think about posting the job online or tell the rest of the employees.

 

[Blackking]

Me pulling the card will benefit the company because it gives people a chance to move up the ladder. Saving the company resources and not go through all those damn interviews, background and drug tests as well if someone is willing to take a position and possibly even relocate. Plus I don't agree with your stance on looking out for myself only, showing that you have the best interest for others and holding people accountable is what a supervisor or someone who has those qualities does (which I've been offered in previous jobs before). I don't feel like I am in the position to ask why those emails were not being forwarded to us, I will let the offices handle that as that is something that it is EXPECTED by THEM for HIM to forward to US.

@Peter Vecsey I am not trying to get anyone fired. I am pointing out something that I am pretty sure corporate would be interested in seeing. Why would he hold those emails if corporate states to forward to the rest of the local co-workers? That makes no sense.

You'll soon learn that you can't help anyone until you have the power to do so.... until you have the power to do so, you'll learn that good gestures rarely go unpunished.... and you'll learn that even if sh1t seems sweet... the person you're outting has legacy, longevity, and even if he was removed..has friends in positions who know who outted him. Maybe nothing will come from this. But what happens if dude only gets a slap on the wrist - I don't do grimy sh1t, but if I was him.. I would looking at you like-- you trying to fck w my paper, my family n1gga...

If you would have just told him - he may have just started forwarding the sh1t... (ur wrong in his eyes because he's already justified in his mind y he wasn't forwarding them) plus you could have ended up with him (a man who has the ears of leadership) as one of your cheerleaders.

U just have to do things a certain way. for example- right now I manage 20 people. They suck at their job, but we don't have real trainers... so I just pick up all their slack and end up working harder than them for barely more pay. I'm justified in going leadership to let them know and bring all the facts. It'll prolly work, but y corner them, when if I play it right they will give me everything I want (be a sr. trainer and sr level manager) without them feeling like I twisted any arms? I will wait til next month to were it clearly shows that I make the most profit, have the best results... offer to train (which i already did - they accepted) the others and even others at different locations. increase my value.
Ive things other ways, I learned the hard way what works n doesn't.... the majority of the corporate world and even military (article 15 for me) are unfair...

so post what ur outcome is when u get it.

 

[Blackking]

They sometimes offer the job to someone or have someone already in mind before they even think about posting the job online or tell the rest of the employees.

this is how things are done... would you rather them post the jobs , you waist your lil hopeful time and still select the person with the connect?

from my experience if u pay attention to who the manager seems to like, who gets temporary roles, or interim leadership positions, who gets extra duties beyond their positions, whose never worried about a gottdamn thing, etc.... That muthfaka is being groomed for the role.

The worst thing you can do in any industry is to hire or put the wrong person in place... it just waste everyone's time, plus u end up with a frustrated manger and incompetent or disloyal person in the role
- the easiest things is to pick someone who's skilled and loyal to you and place that person without anyone knowing ur plan. With a good team around u - u end up paying the people u like more money instead of some random d1ckhead. Also, you have ears to the company streets, people who report lil sh1t to you.... people who r loyal.

I hope I don't come off as wrong, but I see people doing all this sh1t - so that's y i say all this.

 

[kbtwofour]

this is how things are done... would you rather them post the jobs , you waist your lil hopeful time and still select the person with the connect?

from my experience if u pay attention to who the manager seems to like, who gets temporary roles, or interim leadership positions, who gets extra duties beyond their positions, whose never worried about a gottdamn thing, etc.... That muthfaka is being groomed for the role.

The worst thing you can do in any industry is to hire or put the wrong person in place... it just waste everyone's time, plus u end up with a frustrated manger and incompetent or disloyal person in the role
- the easiest things is to pick someone who's skilled and loyal to you and place that person without anyone knowing ur plan. With a good team around u - u end up paying the people u like more money instead of some random d1ckhead. Also, you have ears to the company streets, people who report lil sh1t to you.... people who r loyal.

I hope I don't come off as wrong, but I see people doing all this sh1t - so that's y i say all this.

I have an understanding on how things work in a hospital setting. If I was a manager I would post the openings in the internal employee posting website and in every break room in my department even if I have already selected someone in the back of my mind. It's not a good look for someone to step down, give another employee a promotion, and not post the position for your employees.

We had a nurse stepped down from her role, her coworker got the other employee's old job, and this all happened in one day without the majority of the staff knowing what has going on. This was a horrible look for management because it let everyone know what was going on behind closed doors.

I agree with you because I see it at work all the time.

 

[Fellatio]

Put some child porn on his computer

 

[Schmoove]

Old Economy Steven - had no prior experience but they took a chance on him

 

[Padron1926]

You'll soon learn that you can't help anyone until you have the power to do so.... until you have the power to do so, you'll learn that good gestures rarely go unpunished.... and you'll learn that even if sh1t seems sweet... the person you're outting has legacy, longevity, and even if he was removed..has friends in positions who know who outted him. Maybe nothing will come from this. But what happens if dude only gets a slap on the wrist - I don't do grimy sh1t, but if I was him.. I would looking at you like-- you trying to fck w my paper, my family n1gga...

If you would have just told him - he may have just started forwarding the sh1t... (ur wrong in his eyes because he's already justified in his mind y he wasn't forwarding them) plus you could have ended up with him (a man who has the ears of leadership) as one of your cheerleaders.

U just have to do things a certain way. for example- right now I manage 20 people. They suck at their job, but we don't have real trainers... so I just pick up all their slack and end up working harder than them for barely more pay. I'm justified in going leadership to let them know and bring all the facts. It'll prolly work, but y corner them, when if I play it right they will give me everything I want (be a sr. trainer and sr level manager) without them feeling like I twisted any arms? I will wait til next month to were it clearly shows that I make the most profit, have the best results... offer to train (which i already did - they accepted) the others and even others at different locations. increase my value.

Listen to this man. I would be honestly surprised if they fired him for this. This isnt probably the first time he has done this. Management really doesnt care about this type of thing and have better things to deal with than this trife shyt. With his experience and if this is commonplace tactic for him during his career, this isnt the first time he has dealt with someone like you. If he doesnt get fired over this, and I was in your position, it may be time to find a new job cause you will be walking on egg shells for the rest of the time you were there and he will find reasons to fire you w/o severance. Like it or not, you are replaceable and not a team player. Did you take into account how connected he is with company management. Maybe he plays golf with the big wigs on weekends, who the fukk knows who he knows, and that imo is the important aspect of this. The risk of doing this was not worth the rewards imo to pull this kinda move.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Old people are thinking about retirement.