The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

[Carl Tethers]

Russia will have enough natural gas to heat their country. The rest of Europe won't, or at a reasonable price

It'll be fine

 

[Dorian Breh]

proper training would take at least six months.

on top of all the experienced generals and proper equipment he has loss.

His best bet is just to throw bodies at the Ukrainians and dwindle supplies as faster than the west can resupply them.

but they already out of supplies

Russian crehs gonna be charging fortifications with swords n shyt

 

[Json]

but they already out of supplies

Russian crehs gonna be charging fortifications with swords n shyt

I mean dwindle Ukraine’s supplies faster. The amount of young dead Russians though…

 

[Carl Tethers]

I mean dwindle Ukraine’s supplies faster. The amount of young dead Russians though…

When those Russian mothers start acting up, Putin is truly fukked

 

[Max B]

 

[Piff Perkins]

Russia will have enough natural gas to heat their country. The rest of Europe won't, or at a reasonable price

European gas prices likely to fall sharply this winter, says Goldman Sachs

EU countries’ efforts to avoid big shortages likely to ‘successfully solve’ Russian cuts, says bank

www.theguardian.com

Europe has been preparing for months and should be fine.

 

[Carl Tethers]

European gas prices likely to fall sharply this winter, says Goldman Sachs

EU countries’ efforts to avoid big shortages likely to ‘successfully solve’ Russian cuts, says bank

www.theguardian.com

Europe has been preparing for months and should be fine.

If Putin Stans pivot to "It's fine Russia got humiliated because Europe has to pay more for gas now", they really caping

 

[Dorian Breh]

If Putin Stans pivot to "It's fine Russia got humiliated because Europe has to pay more for gas now", they really caping

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Someone is gonna drop a cigarette in the Kremlin.

 

[Json]

When those Russian mothers start acting up, Putin is truly fukked

Putin ain’t above ordering martial law, indefinite detention, and a firing squad.

 

[Jean toomer]

For Russia

All parties involved

 

[Carl Tethers]

Putin ain’t above ordering martial law, indefinite detention, and a firing squad.

That was more likely when he looked like a strong leader. He'll be out the paint before that

 

[Json]

That was more likely when he looked like a strong leader. He'll be out the paint before that

Desperate leaders do desperate things.

I just don’t see Putin walking away empty handed except for dead soldiers. Zelensky ain’t walking away without Crimea.

Cause the West is going to make these oligarchs pay to rebuild Ukraine.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Desperate leaders do desperate things.

I just don’t see Putin walking away empty handed except for dead soldiers. Zelensky ain’t walking away without Crimea.

Cause the West is going to make these oligarchs pay to rebuild Ukraine.

I've now seen at least three former US military officials straight out say that Ukraine can and will take Crimea within the next 6 months. I'd imagine Putin and his apologists will declare that to be an escalation, at which point he may do something (or try to do something) reckless. We'll see. As far as I'm concerned, Crimea belongs to Ukraine and anything they do to retake it militarily (besides war crimes, bombing civilian targets etc) is justified. It's literally their land, that was taken from them nearly a decade ago.

I could see Russia attempting some type of negotiation before we reach that point. The problem is that if energy/gas prices are sustainable for Europe this winter, as Goldman Sachs suggest, what leverage does Putin have to force an end to this? His hope was clearly that populist movements would topple European governments and isolate Ukraine to the point they have to capitulate/negotiate. But if that doesn't happen, Ukraine is free to carry on the war until they win. Which would likely include the retaking of Crimea. It's just a bad spot and the invasion was clearly a colossal mistake that will be studied for decades.

 

[Savvir]

I've now seen at least three former US military officials straight out say that Ukraine can and will take Crimea within the next 6 months. I'd imagine Putin and his apologists will declare that to be an escalation, at which point he may do something (or try to do something) reckless. We'll see. As far as I'm concerned, Crimea belongs to Ukraine and anything they do to retake it militarily (besides war crimes, bombing civilian targets etc) is justified. It's literally their land, that was taken from them nearly a decade ago.

I could see Russia attempting some type of negotiation before we reach that point. The problem is that if energy/gas prices are sustainable for Europe this winter, as Goldman Sachs suggest, what leverage does Putin have to force an end to this? His hope was clearly that populist movements would topple European governments and isolate Ukraine to the point they have to capitulate/negotiate. But if that doesn't happen, Ukraine is free to carry on the war until they win. Which would likely include the retaking of Crimea. It's just a bad spot and the invasion was clearly a colossal mistake that will be studied for decades.

great take